George my Doggie Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 I want something to stop my dog slipping his collar, and I found these martingale collars (pic bellow) I was just wondering if there were any dangers to using them before I got one. Thanks. ~GMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fido666 Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Hi GMD, I use a martingale collar on my Collie but only when training (so with a lead attached). The only comment I'd make about the one in your pic is that the buckle bit might come undone, the one I have is stitched so it can't. Also, make sure the buckle does not end up sitting across your dogs's windpipe once adjusted otherwise it might be uncomfortable when tightened. Cheers, Corine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsun Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 I am a firm believer in this type of collar. Yes, watch the buckle...I make collars and do the martingale in a solid form, as well as a combo with a heavy duty snap enclosure which I've found is reliable but quick to remove if needed. The solid martingale works great if you have a dog without a huge head...the combo with the snap enclosure works on the large headed breeds where slipping it over just won't work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Blackdog sells some with a clip to make getting it on and off much easier ;) http://www.blackdog.net.au/products.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 I think they are a much better option than a Halti! The safety issues you need to be aware of are that that should not be left on a dog as a 'general' collar due to their capacity to tighten and that they are not an ideal collar for tieing a dog up to anything (same reason) Blackdog make a nice one if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 I just bought two of the blackdog ones and they are really easy to fit (and I am usually quite pathetic with fitting collars). They don't tighten too much and are easy to get on. Nat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAX Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 I use them as well but i dont like the one in your picture as i would worry that the buckle would stick into their throat. They are great collars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciara Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 (edited) I saw a martingale with a half prong on it the other day, on a Lab. Never seen one like that before, has anyone else? Perhaps it was custom made. Here is a link to some good collars: Martingale collar Edited May 9, 2005 by Ciara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 I too love the martingale collars and feel that from a safety perspective for walking on lead they are much safer than a fixed collar simply for the reason that they cant slip off over the head. For this same reason though, they can not be left on the dog all the time. I have fixed collars on the dogs as 'tag holders' and use the martingale collars when they go on lead. My favourite martingale collar is the Premier collar. They are strong and well made, particularly for large dogs, have no buckles to break (they slip on over the head), are easily adjustable and come in lots of great colours and patterns. Only drawback is you have to order them from overseas: http://www.bigtallk9.com/products/collars/440.html http://www.bigtallk9.com/products/collars/438.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George my Doggie Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 Thanks everyone. I'll have a look at those websites and try and order one. I'll remember not to leave them on all the time. methinks the blackdog one would be the way to go, as I dont want one that's going to tighten heaps- just enough to stop my dog slipping his collar. Thanks again ~GMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Hey all, gret thread, I had never heard of a martingale collar, and was wondering what to do as my dog slipped her colar on the weekend when we were out walking and were approached by an off-lead dog... ended up in that situation of having to tackle my dog and hold her above my head while the other dog jumped at me until the owners finally came and retrieved it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George my Doggie Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 hehe^.^ hence the usefulness of google and the dogzonline forum! Oh yeah, and poodlefan, I don't use a halti. I only trialed one for a few weeks under the guidance of my puppy-class instructor. I couldn't get my dog used to it, so I never ended up walking him that much with it. :D Anyhow. Thanks again for the advice and information peoples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fido666 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Hi Nat, I just bought two of the blackdog ones and they are really easy to fit Did you buy the training collar or the limited slip one? Cheers, Corine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Limited Slip. Nat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fido666 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Thanks Nat. That's the one I bought, just have to figure out correct fitting Cheers, Corine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 hehe - normally I cannot ever get collars to fit because they are so hard to move/change length, but these were great for me. Mostly got them cos I heard horror stories about dogs slipping out of their collar. Nat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 I have had good experiences with them - though was using a collar lead combo. Got one for my mum whose cocker use to slip a collar with ease - she never had him get away on her again. But still very gentle - much better than a choker IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George my Doggie Posted May 13, 2005 Author Share Posted May 13, 2005 (edited) I hate chokers/check chains/correction chains/whatever people are calling them now... There are so many ways to misuse them, and lots of different methods...some of which are contradictory. I'd never use one. Too confusing and too contraversial. Edited May 13, 2005 by George my Doggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 I have not seen a training tool yet that can not be misused in some way...it's just up to the handler to do some research, learn how to use the product and see how it works with their dog and method of training. I have started clicker training with my 9mth old (today!) GSD and i find it doesn't matter what type of collar i use when doing so as it's not being used as the training tool...nor is the leash for that matter :rolleyes: It's proving to be a fun, quick and impressive way of training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Check chains aren't controversial - if you want controversial mention pinch collars :rolleyes: I'm also having loads of fun with clickers - Diesel will finally hold the dumbell in his mouth without trying to spit it out or throw it! And he learnt to shake in about 5 minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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