Thousands of Sydney Residents at War With Nuisance Dogs & Owners

[samoyedman]

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/canine-crisis-thousands-of-sydney-residents-at-war-with-nuisance-dogs-and-their-owners-20170112-gtqd67.html

 

 

Edited January 15, 2017 by samoyedman

[asal]

those with noisy dogs next door, I advise them to get one of those ultrasonic bark busters and hang it beside the fence, all have reported back has helped shut it up n its owner doesnt even know why.

 

although the little battery can need replacing every few days for a while until the dog reduces its barking.

 

had a real yapper of my own and the citronella collar was a joke, he learned so many barks and it runs out . think the blighter learned to count how many before it ran out, then he was off full bore again. His owner had named him echo, now that surely is asking for trouble?

 

I bought the little bird house look model and the local electronics store rewired it to clip to a car battery so it didnt need recharging for a month.. BLISS!

 

Mine is the little brown model, the electronics shop added a gizmo to adjust the voltage from the car battery.    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Puppy-Dog-Ultrasonic-Outdoor-Stop-Bark-Anti-Barking-Control-System-Device-/311668909394?hash=item4890ea2552:g:QpAAAOSwq7JUGmK3

Edited January 15, 2017 by asal

[Jumabaar]

Bark busters Specialists?!?!?!!?

 

I do hope that the dogs who are having this issue get the underlying cause of their barking resolved. Particularly if it is anxiety based!

Frustration, over arousal are other options. 

 

A veterinary Behaviourist should be the one making an anxiety diagnosis and prescribing appropriate treatment. 

[karen15]

I lived next to two non stop barking mongrels and would have been happy to see them dead. I raised it politely at first with neighbours but dogs barked non stop, even when they were home. I hated those dogs with a passion. I moved to a unit where we can have pets. I think there's at least a dozen dogs here. You never hear them. I'm on a busy road but the lack of barking is utter bliss.

 

whenever I've moved I've always made a point to say hello to the neighbours, introduce my dog and say please let me know if he barks. I always check if I see them out that the animals are ok and not being nuisances. 

 

[Paul777]

While they're at it, why are cats still allowed to wander, kill native animals in my yard & use my garden as a toilet?

I live in an area where everyone chops down anything green & living, while I plant trees & bushes. Naturally the filthy animals have a preference for my yard.

 

I'd sunk my fingers into soggy poo while gardening once too often, so I got myself a cat trap & take offenders off to the pound.

 

[Pjrt]

11 minutes ago, Paul777 said:

While they're at it, why are cats still allowed to wander, kill native animals in my yard & use my garden as a toilet?

I live in an area where everyone chops down anything green & living, while I plant trees & bushes. Naturally the filthy animals have a preference for my yard.

 

I'd sunk my fingers into soggy poo while gardening once too often, so I got myself a cat trap & take offenders off to the pound.

 

 

I have to agree. Why is it cats can wander and create a nuisance with impunity while if a dog is loose it's an entirely different story. Both create a nuisance and a danger to others and themselves. The tide is turning slowly against cats at large. Can't come soon enough for me. 

 

[Paul777]

A Uni study years ago (1980s from memory) looked into the death toll on native animals in Aus. by cats that are allowed to roam free.

Most field work is often done by senior students under the guidance of a professor.

 

The results showed that cats were slaughtering anything that moved & were responsible for killing at least 350 animals each annually (birds, frogs, lizards, marsupials etc.)

The professor, alarmed at the figure, thought it was inflated by the inexperience of the students. Nuh-uh. He found that even 'docile' cats were killing a minimum of 350 animals per year.

 

No-one can tell me that anyone who let's their cat loose is an 'animal-lover', more like a crazy cat person.

[Papillon Kisses]

19 minutes ago, Gruf said:

 

I have to agree. Why is it cats can wander and create a nuisance with impunity while if a dog is loose it's an entirely different story. Both create a nuisance and a danger to others and themselves. The tide is turning slowly against cats at large. Can't come soon enough for me. 

 

 

Same. My Chi x was attacked by a much larger cat who had been stalking him for months and Council just rehashed the "cats are allowed to roam" garbage. 

 

3 hours ago, Jumabaar said:

Bark busters Specialists?!?!?!!?

 

I do hope that the dogs who are having this issue get the underlying cause of their barking resolved. Particularly if it is anxiety based!

Frustration, over arousal are other options. 

 

A veterinary Behaviourist should be the one making an anxiety diagnosis and prescribing appropriate treatment. 

 

Thank you and agreed.

[Paul777]

So they're saying that your little dog has no expectation of safety in it's own yard Papillon Kisses? What a joke.

 

Get yourself a cat trap (mine was ordered on e-bay - delivered for $39.95) & take the captured cats to the pound. Simple.

It's the only legal defence that we have & I imagine a big deterrent if they're actually fond of their feline.

[asal]

1 hour ago, Paul777 said:

So they're saying that your little dog has no expectation of safety in it's own yard Papillon Kisses? What a joke.

 

Get yourself a cat trap (mine was ordered on e-bay - delivered for $39.95) & take the captured cats to the pound. Simple.

It's the only legal defence that we have & I imagine a big deterrent if they're actually fond of their feline.

agree, they should be kept home, or dont have one, the damage they do is dreadful.

 

wouldn't have an issue if it were mice and rats they targeted but not so, anything that moves is a target, neighbour wont keep theirs home so all our skinks who lived on the verandah are now gone as are the tree frogs and the wrens have gone from 18 to 7.  the temptation to get it shot is overpowering, too smart to go into a trap n prior to that other neighbours have trapped and impounded it and they just pay the fine, bring it back home and let it loose again

 

[Canisbellum]

I have a Daschund next door that barks and howls incessantly when they go out. I have some video of it so I am going to chat to owners.
What happens to your dog's when you are using the ultrasonic device, curious as that be an option?


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Edited January 17, 2017 by Troy

[Roova]

I agree cats can be a menace when roaming but I'm sure the majority of the population wouldn't know (or bother) to offer enough exercise or mental enrichment to an inside cat or use cat containment fencing in yards \balconies etc.  Maybe if laws end up being passed saying cats are not to roam, they should be accompanied by minimum care of the species? A captive animal needs so much more to satisfy its natural instincts and I think people expect them to lay around like slobs and not want to run, scratch, jump and explore.  Roaming cats are at least fulfilling some of their instincts its just a shame its so damaging.  

 

 

[Paul777]

Asal "too smart"? lol Come on now, one just needs to get creative :  )

Place the trap in a nice secure spot, cover it with a hessian bag or an old towel & place something that they can't resist inside.

I'm not sure what the retrieval cost from the pound is but I bet many will get sick of forking out their hard earned eventually.

 

"the temptation to get it shot is overpowering" yep. But I'm an animal lover. It's not the cats fault but lazy, inconsiderate owners.

Feral cats on the other hand, which are the biggest cause of extinction of species in Australia, I don't hesitate to take them out.

A mate who lives on acreage backing a National Park, knows exactly when his dogs have chased a feral cat up a tree by their excited barking & gets his rifle out.

These cats are usually huge compared to domesticate cats.

 

An acquaintance has 5 cats at last count AND has a mice problem, getting into her cupboards & chewing threw her food packaging. Simple solution - don't feed them until the mice are gone.

[Paul777]

Roova, exactly. It's not the cats fault, they're just following their instincts. One of the few animals, that I'm aware, that kill just for the fun of it.

I have a lot of respect for cat owners who build cat runs connected from a window to outside aviary like set-ups so their cats have the choice to be outside & keeping the wildlife safe.

The laws definitely need to change. In this day & age why aren't councils thinking of the wildlife?

For around 5 years I was visited by a pair of grass parrots, around spring from memory. Such beautiful birds. I haven't seen them for a few years now & wonder if cats got to them. I also get black, white cockatoos, rosellas, galahs, rainbow parakeets, pee-wees, magpies, little hawks & even a tawny-frog-mouth owl.

Haven't found the remains of a bird since I started trapping the cats.

 

[Paul777]

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I much prefer to catch them & take them for a nice drive to the pound where the owners have to open their wallets & purses.

Morons would only replace a lost kitty anyway. There's so many kittens out there for free, which is a big part of the problem. Few have any respect for what they get for nothing.

Edited January 17, 2017 by Troy

[RiverStar-Aura]

Wandering cats can also be attributed to the incessant barking of neighbourhood dogs too.  I have a vancant block next to us and is a hotspot for the neighbourhood cats, which in turn sets my dogs off both day and night. I'm frequently chasing them from our front lawn and they've turned one of our front garden beds into the local toilet and of course the garden they've chosen to use is the one right at our front door.  

 

Of course I don't allow my dogs to bark incessantly though; I'll tell them they've been good for alerting me to the cat, chase the cat(s) away then proceed to tell them that's enough. It's hard though because my poor dogs get so aroused whenever they spy a cat and if I could trust them to come back, I'd be very tempted to open the front gate and allow them to chase after the bastards!

 

My own cat stays inside my backyard and has done so since a kitten. She's more than happy to stay inside our boundaries and has never once left the property (although she's mostly an inside cat). 

 

Here she is pretending to be a plant!

 

[sje78]

barking dogs mean problem owners not problem dogs!

[Paul777]

RiverStar-Aura

Cats are very territorial. Do you think that she sticks to her territory because there's too many cats to fight to establish a range?

 

As a 12yo, I came home to find that my father had, without my knowledge, got rid of my 6 budgies & replaced it with a ginger tom-cat. I resented that cat with a passion & gave the poor little thing the hardest time. But it didn't matter what I dished out he'd come back for more.

I'd lay him on his back on my lap, with his head on my knees & I'd slap the shit out of him. When he'd have enough he'd pull his head in & would refuse to get of my lap until I gave him a long pat while he purred his head off. My arm would look like it had a fight with a razor blade.

He beat the crap out of all the local cats & then cleared the possums out of all the neighbours roofs in his territory. He'd attack visitors that he didn't like (usually my mates) & even beat the daylights out of an 'attack-trained' GSD, lol. It was so rare to have such a vicious cat that was extremely affectionate towards my mother & myself & tolerated the other family members (as long as they didn't mess with him, lol)  God how I loved that cat. One in a million.

 

I'd let your dogs out. Cats are usually quicker & can climb/jump obstacles that dogs can't. It'd definitely give them a good scare & I can't imagine that too many would come back for more. Just make sure they've got a head-start if your dogs are quick ................

 

Living on an unfenced block backing onto bush many years ago, I had to chain my 2 dogs up at night. Their incessant barking nearly got me evicted so I spent an entire weekend training them they could only bark at people on my property.

There was this cat that loved to taunt my dogs & would casually stroll right in front of them, just out of reach. I'd hear the dogs soft whine at night whenever it went past them. One night at 3am, there was an almighty row. The cat had pushed it's luck once too often & my Staffy x snapped her collar & chased the cat into the bush. By the time that I was dressed & out the door, poor pussy was in pieces & Staffy came trotting out of the bush, all waggly tailed looking pleased as punch, with the cats tail in her mouth & face covered in blood    

[BarbedWire]

Some of the anti cat posts on this thread are quite unpleasant. Some people love their cats just as much as we love our dogs. My neighbour had two cats which she was going to keep inside. When they got to be about twelve months old it wasn't working so they were allowed outside during the day. Now one has gone missing and the whole family, including two small children, are very upset. I feel very sorry for them.

 

Where I live the currawongs seem to take care of most of the small birds. I have just put a bird bath in my backyard and two currawongs have decided it is their property and they either sit in the nearby tree or in the birdbath. I haven't seen or heard a small bird for days, and I don't think  cats are responsible.

[Mum to Emma]

You have to earn a cat's affection - that is why some people (typically men) don't like them.  They expect the creatures is their lives - be they 2 or 4 legged - to continue to love them regardless of how poorly they are treated, and dogs are experts at this. The kitty 'mysoginist' attitude, more common in Australia than in any other western nation, is the cause of much animal cruelty.  

Edited January 16, 2017 by Mum to Emma