PepitoVFR Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 A fellow dog-lover just sent me this: Am now trying to convince her this is either a joke or a scam :laugh: == Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 :laugh: I think it's probably real! There was another one floating around that did a similar thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 It is real - and a great idea for many folks , including folks with vision impairment /folks with service dogs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Kisses Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 I can imagine this causing dogs to develop anxieties about toileting. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepitoVFR Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 I can imagine this causing dogs to develop anxieties about toileting. ???? If it is indeed real (I still don't believe it is) then absolutely it would. I'd love to speak to this "vet" == Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) I can imagine this causing dogs to develop anxieties about toileting. ???? obviously training is needed to accustom a dog to doing things a different way :) ... after all - we put dogs in wheelchairs, in pants , bellybands- in elizabethan collars .. harnesses which cover a lot of their body ..all sorts of things. In a previous life,decades ago .. I trained labrador guide dogs to wear a contraption using small plastic freezer bags - as they were to be sent to High Density Japan ..and at work there was nowhere they could toilet . it didn't take long - I also thought it was odd/awful at first ..however , the main thing was getting teh dogs to toilet on command ..then adding the contraption we made ... and they didn't think twice ! Edited November 18, 2016 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westiemum Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 There's something about this that bothers me - and I can't put my finger on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Kisses Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 There's something about this that bothers me - and I can't put my finger on it Lack of dignity? In the other clip I've seen online, they had the dog continue to walk around with its poo strapped to it. Who here would like to walk around in soiled pants with poo bouncing around? Would having to do that every time you eliminated make you start to fear toileting when out, then maybe even going out at all? I feel like even if desensitization is done it's still inherently aversive... I DO appreciate where you're coming from Perse and imagine in that situation it would have hopefully been done in a better fashion, e.g. put on, command dog, then immediately remove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 eeewww... I had no idea about that .perhaps it was to show how secure the bag was ? (hopes) We never did that!! It was only on for the amount of time needed to fill it!! Put it on ... dog poos..take it off . yuck ,if it's done any other way :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 There's something about this that bothers me - and I can't put my finger on it i honestly thought it was torture at first ..but to teh dogs , it was just another thing ..and it became normal very fast ... put gadget on ...this became a 'cue to poo'..reward..take gadget off , and back to whatever was happening before ... a few minutes ...couple times a day .... they were trained to relieve on command anyhow ..and on leash .. so there was no aversion ..it was all part of a process... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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