Blood Disorders

[Paro]

I have 2 male Pointers that have been recently desexed. While at the vets they suffered serve bleeding and seemed to have clotting problems. Has anyone heard of diseases such as Hemophillia in Pointers. I can't find much info and would be interested to know if anyone has any info. Still love our dogs just wanted some info in case the dogs suffer any other medical problems.

[persephone]

Sorry to hear of that Was a diagnosis made ? Could the dogs have eaten something to have that effect ..or had any herbal or other medication ?

The first stop would be the breeder of your dogs :) They will be able to fill you in as to what diseases they test for , and if there are incidences oh haemophilia in previous generations .

They need to be told anyhow, if you haven't already ...

Edited September 3, 2016 by persephone

[Paro]

Sorry to hear of that Was a diagnosis made ? Could the dogs have eaten something to have that effect ..or had any herbal or other medication ?

The first stop would be the breeder of your dogs :) They will be able to fill you in as to what diseases they test for , and if there are incidences oh haemophilia in previous generations .

They need to be told anyhow, if you haven't already ...

I have notified the breeder but didn't get any response. There is no way the dogs could have eaten something they are always in the yard. The vet think because of their symptoms this was unlikely anyway. I have approached some laboratories that test for bleeding disorders but they do t test for it in Pointers. That is one reason why I put the post up in the hope that someone could point me in the right direction. Ta

Thanks for any more suggestions.

[sandgrubber]

I don't know if you've found this page

http://www.vetbook.org/wiki/dog/index.php?title=Hemophilia

It mentions various blood problems with GSP's (a different pointer) and the tests needed to accurately diagnose them.

Also mentions that there is no cure, but mildly affected dogs often go through life with no need for treatment . .. .except during surgery.

[Xyz]

I hope you follow up with the vet for further testing. At any time they could become injured or unwell and require surgery. Dont want to be trying to find out that information in an emergency.

Also I assume when you say they never go out of the yard your not serious? Pointers are seriously active dogs and I cant see a pointer, let alone 2 being kept satisfied in a back yard? Guessing you mean they cant have picked up anything on their daily walks and off lead runs?

Edited September 4, 2016 by Xyz

[Rebanne]

Don't forget birds flying over head can drop stuff. This is what was thought happened to a dog I had.

[Paro]

I don't know if you've found this page

http://www.vetbook.org/wiki/dog/index.php?title=Hemophilia

It mentions various blood problems with GSP's (a different pointer) and the tests needed to accurately diagnose them.

Also mentions that there is no cure, but mildly affected dogs often go through life with no need for treatment . .. .except during surgery.

Thanks I will look at that sight

[Paro]

I hope you follow up with the vet for further testing. At any time they could become injured or unwell and require surgery. Dont want to be trying to find out that information in an emergency.

Also I assume when you say they never go out of the yard your not serious? Pointers are seriously active dogs and I cant see a pointer, let alone 2 being kept satisfied in a back yard? Guessing you mean they cant have picked up anything on their daily walks and off lead runs?

The vet is also having trouble finding somewhere to follow up on testing. The thought of them being injuried and me needed for info on their condition is why I'm trying to get info now. I try to give both dogs plenty I needed exercise. I was just trying to say they don't go anywhere without us knowing.If you have ever had Pointers you know how destructive they can become without exercise.Thanks

[Paro]

Don't forget birds flying over head can drop stuff. This is what was thought happened to a dog I had.

Thanks hadn't thought of this a will ask the vet and see what he thinks

[persephone]

Don't forget birds flying over head can drop stuff. This is what was thought happened to a dog I had.

Thanks hadn't thought of this a will ask the vet and see what he thinks

it wouldn't be a common thing ..but while the blood is being tested ..it may as well have a tox screen too!

Did the vet consider anti coagulant rodenticides as a cause?

Are /were the dogs on any treatment , eg : vit K to stop the bleeding ?

Obviously being of the same breeding , a genetic problem is entirely possible ..however, lots of other things need investigating as well . Don't just let the vet say "they had/have a clotting problem" and leave it at that !! As said previously , you NEED TO KNOW .

is it lifelong , do you need to beware of injuries ? is it getting better since that episode ? LOTS of questions for the vet ! My link have a read here, too :)

[JulesP]

Are the dogs closely related? If they aren't then I would say something environmental has happened.

[Paro]

Don't forget birds flying over head can drop stuff. This is what was thought happened to a dog I had.

Thanks hadn't thought of this a will ask the vet and see what he thinks

it wouldn't be a common thing ..but while the blood is being tested ..it may as well have a tox screen too!

Did the vet consider anti coagulant rodenticides as a cause?

Are /were the dogs on any treatment , eg : vit K to stop the bleeding ?

Obviously being of the same breeding , a genetic problem is entirely possible ..however, lots of other things need investigating as well . Don't just let the vet say "they had/have a clotting problem" and leave it at that !! As said previously , you NEED TO KNOW .

is it lifelong , do you need to beware of injuries ? is it getting better since that episode ? LOTS of questions for the vet ! My link have a read here, too :)

Yes anti coagulants have been considered and ruled out. They are on vit k

[Paro]

Are the dogs closely related? If they aren't then I would say something environmental has happened.

The dogs are brothers from the same litter which is another reason it maybe genetic

[*kirty*]

Any animal laboratory can test for clotting disorders. You just need a blood sample. Testing for specific disorders is trickier. Check out some of the US DNA testing places (such as UC Davis). I had a dog tested for Von Willebrands and the sample had to be sent to W.A.

[Dogsfevr]

When you trim there nails have they bleed excessively if trimmed short

[Paro]

Any animal laboratory can test for clotting disorders. You just need a blood sample. Testing for specific disorders is trickier. Check out some of the US DNA testing places (such as UC Davis). I had a dog tested for Von Willebrands and the sample had to be sent to W.A.

ok thanks will look at that

[Paro]

Any animal laboratory can test for clotting disorders. You just need a blood sample. Testing for specific disorders is trickier. Check out some of the US DNA testing places (such as UC Davis). I had a dog tested for Von Willebrands and the sample had to be sent to W.A.

ok thanks will look at that

[Jumabaar]

I had to send blood to UC DAVIS to get an answer on my litters clotting problems. They are able to measure the different molecules required for blood to clot. It was cheaper and quicker than the Univeristy of Melbourne.

My litter had Harmophillia A.