persephone Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) Ok - if you know about BROMETHALIN - stop reading . I had not heard of it until today when someone lost both their dogs overnight as a result of said dogs eating rat baits in the laundry of their house . BROMETHALIN can cause brain swelling . Ataxia, tremors and seizures are apparently present . In high doses it is fast acting . One of the dogs was Don's father - RIP "Dog" . The lab part of him seems to have been his downfall ...gutsing mouse baits We use the BIG CHEESE baits ..they contain DIFENACOUM , which has a high safety margin . from the B C page : For example, a Rat would need to eat only a small amount of The Big Cheese Difenacoum bait to be fatal, however a dog would need to eat well over 1 kilogram of The Big Cheese Bait. Edited September 3, 2016 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Racumin is also safe up the food chain... a lot of zoos use it for that reason... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottsmum Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Not good Perse. Its the reason we only use traps - thankfully our mouse problem is minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted September 3, 2016 Author Share Posted September 3, 2016 Yes, it was awful . Dogs were OK at bedtime last night - gone this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottsmum Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 On 03/09/2016 at 5:36 AM, persephone said: Yes, it was awful . Dogs were OK at bedtime last night - gone this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 On 03/09/2016 at 5:36 AM, persephone said: Yes, it was awful . Dogs were OK at bedtime last night - gone this morning did you lose more than one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottsmum Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 On 03/09/2016 at 11:02 AM, Kirislin said: On 03/09/2016 at 5:36 AM, persephone said: Yes, it was awful . Dogs were OK at bedtime last night - gone this morning did you lose more than one? I think so ... Quote One of the dogs was Don's father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 What brands is it sold as? I know Talon (or the active ingredient in it) is really bad. No rat bait would be good for a dog. Except the ordinary food you might bait a trap with ie non poisonous bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disintegratus Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 I'm so sorry to hear that Persephone I never wanted to use baits because they're just generally awful and I was concerned about relay poisoning of my dogs and also of native wildlife. Unfortunately, living in a most decidedly not rodent-proof house in the middle of cow country, we have more than a few, so I use racumin and traps. I only use snap traps or live catch traps (then humanely euthanase them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 On 03/09/2016 at 11:02 AM, Kirislin said: On 03/09/2016 at 5:36 AM, persephone said: Yes, it was awful . Dogs were OK at bedtime last night - gone this morning did you lose more than one? it wasn't OUR dogs :) it was someone we know ... he only had two ..now he has none .he thought the baits were safe in the laundry ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 On 03/09/2016 at 1:05 PM, Mrs Rusty Bucket said: What brands is it sold as? I know Talon (or the active ingredient in it) is really bad. No rat bait would be good for a dog. Except the ordinary food you might bait a trap with ie non poisonous bait. we only use BIG CHEESE ..it has a very high safety margin - according to their statistics , a dog needs to eat around one kilo of it for a fatal dose , unlike some others, where 5 grams will be fatal . Anyhow, we've been using it for 3 years ..in every room , shed, outbuilding .The aviary /chookpen ...everywhere . No problems noted , and mice numbers reduced from a small town population , to the odd migrant . I was not using any baits for fear of losing animals ...but am very happy with this one :) Of course , baits need to be placed in secure containers, or under floors/in ceilings, in cages hung on trees/walls .. but I use this brand with complete confidence . the problem with BROMETHALIN is that is causes brain swelling - it acts in a different way to 'normal' poisons. Eaten in quantity ..it becomes fatal in just a few hours !!! TOMCAT is the only one I know of with this ingredient . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 On 03/09/2016 at 5:40 AM, Scottsmum said: On 03/09/2016 at 5:36 AM, persephone said: Yes, it was awful . Dogs were OK at bedtime last night - gone this morning NOT OUR DOGS - but still awful ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 I'm so sorry. RIP doggies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Very sad for everyone. So sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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