shre Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Hi everyone New on the group. I wanted some information on natural and organic pet products that are very popular among pets ( dogs and cats), where will these be available. Thanks for your help, much appreciated. regards, Shreya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 welcome :) I have some links to feeding raw/natural food - like THIS and the 'neverending story' ..a HUGE discussion on raw& natural feeding ... HERE also a discussion of where to buy - HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sueang Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Hi, do you mean raw diets or Natural gluten free kibbles or freeze dried foods ? I went thru Jacqueline Rudan at Naturopath in Victoria & used her Natural Animal Solution products to balance the raw diet she only recommends to use human grade meats & blended fresh veggies.... here's her Maintenance Diet if your dog has any health problems scroll down & you'll see raw diets for certain health problems, send Jacqueline an email & she'll answer your email then you can book a consultation, a consult over the phone was cheaper then seeing a vet, she rings you & she spoke with me for 1 hour only cost me $60 that's was 1 year ago...all her products are excellent.. http://www.naturalanimalsolutions.com.au/natural-diet.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I'd suggest paying some attention to the nuts and bolts of terms like "raw" and "natural" as defined by the law and in practice. I find this blog helpful for learning to ask the right questions: https://thesciencedog.wordpress.com/category/pet-food-2/ They use a lot of hype to sell dog food! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Hi, do you mean raw diets or Natural gluten free kibbles or freeze dried foods ? I went thru Jacqueline Rudan at Naturopath in Victoria & used her Natural Animal Solution products to balance the raw diet she only recommends to use human grade meats & blended fresh veggies.... here's her Maintenance Diet if your dog has any health problems scroll down & you'll see raw diets for certain health problems, send Jacqueline an email & she'll answer your email then you can book a consultation, a consult over the phone was cheaper then seeing a vet, she rings you & she spoke with me for 1 hour only cost me $60 that's was 1 year ago...all her products are excellent.. http://www.naturalanimalsolutions.com.au/natural-diet.html human grade meat (and other food) is not automatically healthy for dogs...the meat will be very likely treated with 220...225 and can cause fatal Thiamine deficiency...conversely 'dog' grade meat treated with 220....225 contains additional Thiamine to address this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Hi, do you mean raw diets or Natural gluten free kibbles or freeze dried foods ? I went thru Jacqueline Rudan at Naturopath in Victoria & used her Natural Animal Solution products to balance the raw diet she only recommends to use human grade meats & blended fresh veggies.... here's her Maintenance Diet if your dog has any health problems scroll down & you'll see raw diets for certain health problems, send Jacqueline an email & she'll answer your email then you can book a consultation, a consult over the phone was cheaper then seeing a vet, she rings you & she spoke with me for 1 hour only cost me $60 that's was 1 year ago...all her products are excellent.. http://www.naturalanimalsolutions.com.au/natural-diet.html human grade meat (and other food) is not automatically healthy for dogs...the meat will be very likely treated with 220...225 and can cause fatal Thiamine deficiency...conversely 'dog' grade meat treated with 220....225 contains additional Thiamine to address this issue. If any raw human grade meat has been treated with preservatives then it has been done illegally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Hi, do you mean raw diets or Natural gluten free kibbles or freeze dried foods ? I went thru Jacqueline Rudan at Naturopath in Victoria & used her Natural Animal Solution products to balance the raw diet she only recommends to use human grade meats & blended fresh veggies.... here's her Maintenance Diet if your dog has any health problems scroll down & you'll see raw diets for certain health problems, send Jacqueline an email & she'll answer your email then you can book a consultation, a consult over the phone was cheaper then seeing a vet, she rings you & she spoke with me for 1 hour only cost me $60 that's was 1 year ago...all her products are excellent.. http://www.naturalanimalsolutions.com.au/natural-diet.html human grade meat (and other food) is not automatically healthy for dogs...the meat will be very likely treated with 220...225 and can cause fatal Thiamine deficiency...conversely 'dog' grade meat treated with 220....225 contains additional Thiamine to address this issue. If any raw human grade meat has been treated with preservatives then it has been done illegally. show us the legal definition of 'humane-grade'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinabean Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Hi, do you mean raw diets or Natural gluten free kibbles or freeze dried foods ? I went thru Jacqueline Rudan at Naturopath in Victoria & used her Natural Animal Solution products to balance the raw diet she only recommends to use human grade meats & blended fresh veggies.... here's her Maintenance Diet if your dog has any health problems scroll down & you'll see raw diets for certain health problems, send Jacqueline an email & she'll answer your email then you can book a consultation, a consult over the phone was cheaper then seeing a vet, she rings you & she spoke with me for 1 hour only cost me $60 that's was 1 year ago...all her products are excellent.. http://www.naturalan...tural-diet.html human grade meat (and other food) is not automatically healthy for dogs...the meat will be very likely treated with 220...225 and can cause fatal Thiamine deficiency...conversely 'dog' grade meat treated with 220....225 contains additional Thiamine to address this issue. If any raw human grade meat has been treated with preservatives then it has been done illegally. Yes, the regulations allow for preservatives to be added to some human-grade processed meat products (eg sausages, frankfurts). Processed products that contain added sulphites are required to declare it on their packaging. By law, there shouldn't be any in raw human grade mince. Here's some info on the regulations: http://www.meatupdat...hur-dioxide.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Hi, do you mean raw diets or Natural gluten free kibbles or freeze dried foods ? I went thru Jacqueline Rudan at Naturopath in Victoria & used her Natural Animal Solution products to balance the raw diet she only recommends to use human grade meats & blended fresh veggies.... here's her Maintenance Diet if your dog has any health problems scroll down & you'll see raw diets for certain health problems, send Jacqueline an email & she'll answer your email then you can book a consultation, a consult over the phone was cheaper then seeing a vet, she rings you & she spoke with me for 1 hour only cost me $60 that's was 1 year ago...all her products are excellent.. http://www.naturalan...tural-diet.html human grade meat (and other food) is not automatically healthy for dogs...the meat will be very likely treated with 220...225 and can cause fatal Thiamine deficiency...conversely 'dog' grade meat treated with 220....225 contains additional Thiamine to address this issue. If any raw human grade meat has been treated with preservatives then it has been done illegally. Yes, the regulations allow for preservatives to be added to some human-grade processed meat products (eg sausages, frankfurts). Processed products that contain added sulphites are required to declare it on their packaging. By law, there shouldn't be any in raw human grade mince. Here's some info on the regulations: http://www.meatupdat...hur-dioxide.pdf ...to my knowledge there is no legal definition for 'human grade', hence manufactures can put in more or less what ever they want as long as a) they list all the ingredients, thus applying with the declaration requirements, b) it is still eatable for humans without causing harm Eta for clarification: for 'mince' sulphites are not allowed, but still found: some further reading here: http://www.foodsafety.govt.nz/elibrary/industry/sulphur-dioxide-sulphides-in-meat-info-pamphlet.pdf http://fedup.com.au/factsheets/additive-and-natural-chemical-factsheets/220-228-sulphite-preservatives ...the point I wanted to make is that food 'declared as human-grade' doesn't reveal much about the quality and the preservatives used, hence all meat products declared as human-grade can still contain sulphites. Edited April 17, 2016 by Willem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Not worth the effort Edited April 17, 2016 by JulesP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danois Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Hi, do you mean raw diets or Natural gluten free kibbles or freeze dried foods ? I went thru Jacqueline Rudan at Naturopath in Victoria & used her Natural Animal Solution products to balance the raw diet she only recommends to use human grade meats & blended fresh veggies.... here's her Maintenance Diet if your dog has any health problems scroll down & you'll see raw diets for certain health problems, send Jacqueline an email & she'll answer your email then you can book a consultation, a consult over the phone was cheaper then seeing a vet, she rings you & she spoke with me for 1 hour only cost me $60 that's was 1 year ago...all her products are excellent.. http://www.naturalanimalsolutions.com.au/natural-diet.html human grade meat (and other food) is not automatically healthy for dogs...the meat will be very likely treated with 220...225 and can cause fatal Thiamine deficiency...conversely 'dog' grade meat treated with 220....225 contains additional Thiamine to address this issue. If any raw human grade meat has been treated with preservatives then it has been done illegally. show us the legal definition of 'humane-grade'.... Easy - meat that is safe and suitable for human consumption. It's located in this really obscure document called the Food Standards and their explanatory notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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