Renascene Bulldog

[Bullybreedlover]

Thanks for the input people, my daughter is 2 years old and has had no bad experiences with dogs to my knowledge. I currently live with my girlfriend and her parents who own the foxy and their other dog which is a mix breed mastiff x. She has the same reaction to all dogs big and small but on occasion will give them a pat or some attention, so I'm guessing she may not be scared but would rather not interact with them, but we have a local market where people walk around their dogs which are on leashes and she doesn't mind touching them. My neice was the same when she was younger so her father decided to get a rottweiler puppy and her dislike for dogs was cured. I don't think I could trust a dog that is already fully grown as i would like to start from a pup so it knows who his family is. This dog would have 3 owners My daughter, my mother and I and would not actually be living with us but would be staying at my mums where me and my daughter are every weekend and maybe have the occasional sleep over. The choice of a bully breed is mine and am starting to feel a bit selfish and may need to look a chiuawawa or something. Cheers and hope that fills in the gaps for more helpful criticism.

[_PL_]

Please don't just assume she will get used to a dog just because you get a pup.

It absolutely doesn't work that way, and I'm talking about the rescue point of view like Rebanne said. Pups rumble and nip and jump. If a child squeals and runs it can be even more encouragement to be silly. They hit around 12 to 18 months and it's all over. They've terrorised the child, trashed the kid's toys, eaten furniture and wires, pooped on the carpet, been put outside, unsocialised, no manners etc.

Personally I'd take her to meet grown dogs, something soft like a mellow adult Cavalier.

Frenchies are a fashionable dog at the moment and have become a very exploited 'investment' breed; be careful.

Also be careful of the numerous free classifieds, so many are swamped with scammers who take advantage of fad breeds with things like cheap prices, offering free dogs (in exchange for you paying a transport fee) and no waiting period; that kind of thing. If it sounds too good to be true it often is.

[Bullybreedlover]

If you already have a dog & she is scared of that I doubt getting a puppy will fix the problem & may make it worse.

Pups jump, growl & play roughly or madly & do not obey commands instantly so I can't see how she will cope if she can't cope with an adult trained dog.

It will also sense her nervousness or dislike & may become fearful or timid in response.

Maybe look at & research more professional help.

A few sessions with a psychologist or hypnotist & some suggestions for interacting with other dogs before getting another one may be a more helpful way to go.

I'm not to surexceed if she is scared or what because on occasion will give dog attention, especially the ones people are walking around at the market which range from small to big dogs

[BlaznHotAussies]

I'm not sure what you mean by not trusting the adult dog...many mature dogs that come from a loving home but are surrendered to rescue quickly learn who their new family is. I've got 2 dogs who I got as adults and they very quickly adopted us as their humans. No different to my dog who I got as an 8 week old puppy :)

[Bullybreedlover]

Why not go small and cute and get a Frenchie :) maybe more a girl-scared-of-dogs size too?

We currently have a little foxy and she doesn't like that either, so I'm thinking if we start off at pup then surely she wouldn't mind it and can see it grow and get use to dogs

I knew people who thought if they got a pup their child would be fine. I told them don't do it. Pup ended up in the pound at 12 months of age. I suggest you find friends with nice quiet older dogs and visit them a lot without forcing your child to interact with the dog.

I have plenty of mates with nice quite dogs and she doesn't like them, they do not bark at her or anything. She just won't give them the time

[Steph M]

Perhaps she just isn't interested? Maybe she isn't big on dogs yet? It might come on later or not, but sounds like the dog isn't really for her.

Doesn't make the decision any less important, but might pay to examine why you do want a dog. If its for you, that's totally cool but better to work it out now and tailor the decision to that.

Edited March 8, 2016 by Steph M

[Bullybreedlover]

I'm not sure what you mean by not trusting the adult dog...many mature dogs that come from a loving home but are surrendered to rescue quickly learn who their new family is. I've got 2 dogs who I got as adults and they very quickly adopted us as their humans. No different to my dog who I got as an 8 week old puppy :)

I suppose it's a personal thing, the mastiff X we have was adopted as an adult but little things like golf clubs and bats will set her of and luckily she was on a chain when I realized this. I do trust the dog but you never know what a dog has gone through and what may set them off. Personal preference and thanks for info

[karen15]

Your daughter is two. Kids aren't really into animals until they're older IME. Not having the pup live with you means she'd have little exposure to it. It sounds like your mother is going to be the sole carer of the dog. Does she want a dog, particularly a puppy? Does she have the time to raise a nice well mannered dog?

[Rebanne]

Perhaps she just isn't interested? Maybe she isn't big on dogs? It might come on later or not, but sounds like the dog isn't really for her.

Doesn't make the decision any less important, but might pay to examine why you do want a dog. If its for you, that's totally cool but better to work it out now and tailor the decision to that.

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[Rebanne]

Your daughter is two. Kids aren't really into animals until they're older IME. Not having the pup live with you means she'd have little exposure to it. It sounds like your mother is going to be the sole carer of the dog. Does she want a dog, particularly a puppy? Does she have the time to raise a nice well mannered dog?

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[Rebanne]

If your Mother wants a dog and that's who is really getting a dog, as you will only see it on weekends, then let your Mum decide what she may like. I would still recomend a nice quiet older dog that has been given up by a family for a genuine reason ( and there are some ) and then I'd be making sure the dog has a nice safe spot to go to when you visit so neither dog or child are over whelmed.

[RuralPug]

Getting a dog that a toddler will like is not really a good reason for getting a dog, I'm sorry, and no guarantee that the toddler will cooperate. As long as you teach your child how to behave around dogs and your dogs how to behave around children, you are parenting correctly.

But if you want a taller, slightly muzzled bulldog yourself then google Australian Bosdog and see if you like those. :) Basically they are the British Bulldog bred back to its earlier form.

[Bullybreedlover]

Perhaps she just isn't interested? Maybe she isn't big on dogs? It might come on later or not, but sounds like the dog isn't really for her.

Doesn't make the decision any less important, but might pay to examine why you do want a dog. If its for you, that's totally cool but better to work it out now and tailor the decision to that.

The choice off getting a dog was because I wanted one. We already have 2 where I live which is with my girlfriend and her parents. My mother has moved into a new place where she is allowed pets. So she was looking at getting a dog for security and companion reasons as she lives alone. I thought that seems she was looking we might as well get a pup to help my daughter get use to dogs. The choice in getting a bulldog was mine because I have fond memory's of my mums exs bulldogs from when I was little and because I like the look of them. That changed when I seen all the health problems they have so I looked in to alternative bulldogs which led me to the renascene bulldog.

[Bullybreedlover]

Your daughter is two. Kids aren't really into animals until they're older IME. Not having the pup live with you means she'd have little exposure to it. It sounds like your mother is going to be the sole carer of the dog. Does she want a dog, particularly a puppy? Does she have the time to raise a nice well mannered dog?

Yes she is looking for a dog and agreed to getting a bulldog

[Mrs Rusty Bucket]

American bulldogs are definitely big scary looking dogs but the thing I saw with a club on hound tv (Victoria) none of them looked very protective. Dunno what they'd be like at home tho. My dog is completely different at home than out with strangers.

I wouldn't want to own an American Bulldog in Victoria tho. That BSL stupidity they still have.

I think something similar is a Rottweiler tho they generally come in black and tan. But might be a bit big if your mum had to lift one in the car to get it to the vet.

Jack Russells can be very protective... and small for an older person to manage.

[juice]

I think you maybe trying to fit too many ideas into one dog.

Something that won't scare or leap all over your daughter, something to make your mum feel safe, and something you think looks cool.

To be honest, which is the most important one? Your mum as its going to be her dog?

Do you want a dog for your mum that looks the part or will just put people off? There is a difference, my cattle dog looks nothing compared to my Bull Terrier, but he will be the one to bite.

Bull breeds require a very strong leader, is your mum one? and you need a dog who will cope with a child visiting its territory regularly too.

I would ask your mum what sort of dogs she likes the look of, and what time she can give it, walk it, will it be outside etc?

[Maddy]

Please don't just assume she will get used to a dog just because you get a pup.

It absolutely doesn't work that way, and I'm talking about the rescue point of view like Rebanne said. Pups rumble and nip and jump. If a child squeals and runs it can be even more encouragement to be silly. They hit around 12 to 18 months and it's all over. They've terrorised the child, trashed the kid's toys, eaten furniture and wires, pooped on the carpet, been put outside, unsocialised, no manners etc.

Personally I'd take her to meet grown dogs, something soft like a mellow adult Cavalier.

Frenchies are a fashionable dog at the moment and have become a very exploited 'investment' breed; be careful.

Also be careful of the numerous free classifieds, so many are swamped with scammers who take advantage of fad breeds with things like cheap prices, offering free dogs (in exchange for you paying a transport fee) and no waiting period; that kind of thing. If it sounds too good to be true it often is.

This or a tibbie was my first thought. The bully breeds can be great as adults but I've not met one bully puppy who wasn't a bitey, bouncy ball of pure crazy energy. Which is fine for confident kids but for a small child who sounds nervous around dogs.. yeahno.

A cav might not look tough but in my opinion, they're a much more suitable breed, if you really want a puppy, rather than an adult. As an aside, the whole.. adult dogs can't reallllly be trusted thing.. it's crap. In some respects, they are safer because their behaviour can be observed in its formed state. A puppy is just a big question mark.

[Bullybreedlover]

Thanks for the info guys, obviously I'm new to this and welcome all criticism. From what I've gathered getting a pup will not help my daughter get use to dogs, puppy's will destroy your house and shit every where and will jump up on people most importantly my daughter.Even though it has helped one of my nieces get over her fear of dogs. It also sounds to me like you have to be at home 24/7 to look after your dog which I am not as I have a job and also if it a bully breed it needs a strong leader and plenty of walking so maybe rottweilers neopolitan mastiffs, bull mastiff, American bulldogs and put bulls are different as I have friends with these breeds who also have jobs and are not what I would call a leader to their dogs but a father or friend like figure. These dogs are also mainly on chains but are good around people and good with kids and we're raised from pups around children. What I have been told in real life from people I know and from what I've seen seems alot different to the information iv received, maybe my friends are bad dog owners but their dogs seem to be very fine to me and the dogs seem as happy as any other dog I've seen. Can yous help explain this maybe they were just lucky with the dogs they got but I doubt that. Cheers

[Kavik]

All I am going to suggest is to maybe look into a small/medium breed that is fairly gentle rather than a bully type breed, just because bully type breeds can be a bit bulldozer like, very friendly but barge into things and people. To build your daughter's confidence a gentle breed may be better

[Bullybreedlover]

Why on earth would you get a dog and then keep it on a chain?

Because if your dog gets off your property the man from the pound will get it and then you will have to pay to get it back again so why not have it on a chain???