Sheridan Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 I think it sounds like a good idea. They have someone with them to ensure their well-being is looked after, and it's a way of giving them new socialisation experiences. And if it educates people about rescue and spreads some happiness around, then that's good too :) I agree, no one loses! Of course they do! As a taxi operator my business is being eroded by the deregulation of the taxi industry. Uber doesn't even pay tax in this country and they are using drivers who are working for remuneration below the minimum wage. It is not a level playing field and shame on the ACT Government for being the first to capitulate.... You would have thought a Labor government would look after the workers. Do you realise that Uber/ Google is pushing the implementation of the driverless car? That will mean there will be no jobs at all in the point to point transport industry... We will all be fu@*ed Jesus this makes me so mad, I bet Uber didn't donate their 25% commission to rescue. It's insidious the way they are using rescue ETA not having a go at you Steph, but people don't realise that livelihoods and investments are at stake. We work damn hard 365 days a year and our plate is was our superannuation. Uber is a business just like the taxi industry, which up until Uber's arrival was a monopoly. Like most industries disrupted by digital, it will have to change to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 so would you all think it was a great idea if a breeder was carting their pups around from pillar to post trying to get a sale? Goodness knows what those poor dogs are being exposed to and what they are taking back to the kennels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keetamouse Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Isn't this a discussion forum, we all have our opinions about certain things and we all have a right to voice them, to say, "if we want to bitch about Uber" go somewhere else. For trifecta it is her livelihood....and it's just Uber not the "dog stuff" she is discussing. Well the forum rules state (number 12) that going off topic from the OP is against the rules. But be my guest, if you want to go way off topic, knock yourself out. Why are you so rude this is not facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 so would you all think it was a great idea if a breeder was carting their pups around from pillar to post trying to get a sale? Goodness knows what those poor dogs are being exposed to and what they are taking back to the kennels. If groups are happy to try it then I suppose if the arrangement works for them it will be ongoing. But no, not something I'd do my dogs at all. Nor the pups we've had. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) so would you all think it was a great idea if a breeder was carting their pups around from pillar to post trying to get a sale? Goodness knows what those poor dogs are being exposed to and what they are taking back to the kennels. What are you thinking of? What exactly could they be taking back to their kennels? Saliva from human kisses? eta nits? worms? radical opinions? Edited February 26, 2016 by sarspididious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 As it's my thread, and I went off topic to respond to the post about the taxi industry, I'm happy to debate the sharing economy in off topic with anyone who wants to join in. To respond to Rebanne, no, I would not be happy with a breeder Ubering around puppies. I note Uber did not respond to a query on puppy age nor level of vaccination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 so would you all think it was a great idea if a breeder was carting their pups around from pillar to post trying to get a sale? Goodness knows what those poor dogs are being exposed to and what they are taking back to the kennels. What are you thinking of? What exactly could they be taking back to their kennels? Saliva from human kisses? eta nits? worms? radical opinions? From the point of view of someone who quarantines new pound dogs and does not take pups with only the C3 8wk vaccination out into the wide world. Exposure to any pathogens humans can track around on their clothes or feet. That is anything from parvovirus to giardia to ringworm. Access to any water another dog has slobbered in; for obvious reasons. Urine or faeces of dogs, birds, cats, rats etc. Close contact with other dogs. e.g After school holidays there is a spike of kennel cough from pets being boarded. Pups aren't fully covered and immune compromised pets can become very ill. All of these things go both ways. 'Unclean' rescue pets can give things to humans & pets too or infect the environment because they can be invisible carriers. To be clear, I'm not suggesting anyone is sending grotty pups to unsafe situations. :) These are just the general reasons we minimise risk as best we can. Know your enemy so to speak. And don't say nits. You've made my head itchy! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) so would you all think it was a great idea if a breeder was carting their pups around from pillar to post trying to get a sale? Goodness knows what those poor dogs are being exposed to and what they are taking back to the kennels. What are you thinking of? What exactly could they be taking back to their kennels? Saliva from human kisses? eta nits? worms? radical opinions? From the point of view of someone who quarantines new pound dogs and does not take pups with only the C3 8wk vaccination out into the wide world. Exposure to any pathogens humans can track around on their clothes or feet. That is anything from parvovirus to giardia to ringworm. Access to any water another dog has slobbered in; for obvious reasons. Urine or faeces of dogs, birds, cats, rats etc. Close contact with other dogs. e.g After school holidays there is a spike of kennel cough from pets being boarded. Pups aren't fully covered and immune compromised pets can become very ill. All of these things go both ways. 'Unclean' rescue pets can give things to humans & pets too or infect the environment because they can be invisible carriers. To be clear, I'm not suggesting anyone is sending grotty pups to unsafe situations. :) These are just the general reasons we minimise risk as best we can. Know your enemy so to speak. And don't say nits. You've made my head itchy! :laugh: Maybe I am missing something but I thought the original article was about Canberra (Canberra Times) and workplaces in the Canberra CBD are mostly offices. When the writer says 'puppies' I assumed she meant the softer cuter? way of describing 'dogs'. Also the Best Friends Pet Rescue who are benefitting from the promotion do not usually have litters of pups. They mostly have adults. http://bestfriendspetrescue.org.au/dogs Oh well, I don't really have an opinion on the topic. I just wondered what Rebanne meant. :) ETA Maybe I have just got it wrong. Best Friends Pet Rescue do have some young pups on their website. :) Yesterday I saw a woman in a cake shop buying a pie and carrying in her arms a young pup (CKCS). All the shop staff were petting the cute little pup. I am sure some hygiene rules were being broken. :) I did not see anyone washing their hands afterwards. Edited February 26, 2016 by sarspididious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) :laugh: You could totally rob a shop by taking a cavvy pup in to distract staff. Free pies for everyone! The workplace visit stuff is not a new idea, rescues have been doing it forever. I remember when I was a volly dogwalker years ago, going in for one and the office staff were nice and had a morning tea collecting donations. One dog freaked and hated it, the other dog thought it was great. But this thing with cross-promotion involving a company ... hope the rescue gets as much out of it as Uber does. Edited February 26, 2016 by Powerlegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 so would you all think it was a great idea if a breeder was carting their pups around from pillar to post trying to get a sale? Goodness knows what those poor dogs are being exposed to and what they are taking back to the kennels. What are you thinking of? What exactly could they be taking back to their kennels? Saliva from human kisses? eta nits? worms? radical opinions? Oh I don't know, parvo springs to mind, seeing as how it can be walked into a home, don't know why it couldn't be walked into an office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stellnme Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 The puppies are not tiny, they are 4 months and over and vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 so would you all think it was a great idea if a breeder was carting their pups around from pillar to post trying to get a sale? Goodness knows what those poor dogs are being exposed to and what they are taking back to the kennels. What are you thinking of? What exactly could they be taking back to their kennels? Saliva from human kisses? eta nits? worms? radical opinions? Oh I don't know, parvo springs to mind, seeing as how it can be walked into a home, don't know why it couldn't be walked into an office OffTopic again. DAS pound have a special mat at their entrance which has been soaked in something. I thought it might be to prevent the spread of parvo although I have no idea. Do breeders take special precautions to make sure Parvo isn't walked into their homes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 It's excellent and a fantastic, progressive way to get rescue in to the front and center of people's minds when they next go looking for a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 so would you all think it was a great idea if a breeder was carting their pups around from pillar to post trying to get a sale? Goodness knows what those poor dogs are being exposed to and what they are taking back to the kennels. What are you thinking of? What exactly could they be taking back to their kennels? Saliva from human kisses? eta nits? worms? radical opinions? Oh I don't know, parvo springs to mind, seeing as how it can be walked into a home, don't know why it couldn't be walked into an office OffTopic again. DAS pound have a special mat at their entrance which has been soaked in something. I thought it might be to prevent the spread of parvo although I have no idea. Do breeders take special precautions to make sure Parvo isn't walked into their homes? A lot do. Shoes off or you have to walk through a tray of disinfectant. Some don't let puppy buyers visit until after the 1st vacc or they can look but don't touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 so would you all think it was a great idea if a breeder was carting their pups around from pillar to post trying to get a sale? Goodness knows what those poor dogs are being exposed to and what they are taking back to the kennels. What are you thinking of? What exactly could they be taking back to their kennels? Saliva from human kisses? eta nits? worms? radical opinions? Oh I don't know, parvo springs to mind, seeing as how it can be walked into a home, don't know why it couldn't be walked into an office OffTopic again. DAS pound have a special mat at their entrance which has been soaked in something. I thought it might be to prevent the spread of parvo although I have no idea. Do breeders take special precautions to make sure Parvo isn't walked into their homes? A lot do. Shoes off or you have to walk through a tray of disinfectant. Some don't let puppy buyers visit until after the 1st vacc or they can look but don't touch. Thank you Rebanne, I did not know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) It's excellent and a fantastic, progressive way to get rescue in to the front and center of people's minds when they next go looking for a dog. And I think it certainly wouldn't hurt the world of pure breeds to start thinking of things like this to show that pure breed dogs make great pets, aren't just for showing, aren't unhealthy and inbred and that the people involved with them aren't weirdos obsessed with money and winning shows. We've seen how effective a bit of clever marketing from the "designer breeds" people has been, rescues and shelters are becoming increasingly innovative and good at using social media and word of mouth. Getting out in a coordinated approach to explain the real benefits of pure breeds and responsible breeders is the only way there can be any hope of keeping up with them. And really, even for young puppies (6 weeks + and had a vac) the risk can be managed pretty well. Carrying the pups, not putting them down, disinfecting hands before touching them... People in offices are not very likely to be carrying parvo on their work clothes really. And for older puppies who are fully vaccinated it's no different than going anywhere else. Hopefully thought goes into which pups are selected to go out and about, but most puppies (ok not all) are pretty robust and able to handle some car rides and cuddles, and I think assuming the worst of people and writing off a whole program like this as not worth the risk is overly cautious. Edited February 27, 2016 by Simply Grand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I think it sounds like a good idea. They have someone with them to ensure their well-being is looked after, and it's a way of giving them new socialisation experiences. And if it educates people about rescue and spreads some happiness around, then that's good too :) Totally agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Personally I love Uber. I'd never use another taxi again if we are honest. However I don't feel it's an altruistic thing, of course its a business move, a very smart one at that. It's not what my decisions are based on, but its still clever positive marketing. If the taxi industry is feeling left behind, its because it is. Yep. Every taxi ride I've had has been a crap experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 A new development in this - petsharing. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-23/dogsharing-is-it-better-to-borrow-a-dog-than-own-one/7265962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 There's something very wrong in that story and it's not the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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