Dogsfevr Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Your pup is 16 weeks so in the scheme of the show world it only has potential,your pup may not turned out anyway as a show/ breeding prospect but scars does not stop a dog from being shown. I think your being overly dramatic & should be more worried about making sure the actual dog attack doesn't affect your pup . Lesson learnt if you don't want your dog to play then say no . And don't blame the breed ,one of the nastiest dogs i have ever seen was a Vislza & i had to make sure it didn't attack my dog whilst in the group line up on numerous occasions,sadly it did bite a dog at the show & got suspended so any breed can have an issue or just not click with the dog on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) Your pup is 16 weeks so in the scheme of the show world it only has potential,your pup may not turned out anyway as a show/ breeding prospect but scars does not stop a dog from being shown. I think your being overly dramatic & should be more worried about making sure the actual dog attack doesn't affect your pup . Lesson learnt if you don't want your dog to play then say no . And don't blame the breed ,one of the nastiest dogs i have ever seen was a Vislza & i had to make sure it didn't attack my dog whilst in the group line up on numerous occasions,sadly it did bite a dog at the show & got suspended so any breed can have an issue or just not click with the dog on the day yes, breed is not important in this story .... :) there are owners everywhere who do not understand dog body language ..and accidents happen. Edited February 3, 2016 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 He can be shown. By tradition he is a hunting dog, hunting dogs get scars. I understand you are very upset,as I would be,I also kbow Vizsla'a are very soft and it would have been traumatising for him. Now is the tine to get him out and about near dogs - but no he does not have to play with them and yes you can tell anyone who tries to allow their dog to approach to F off if they don't listen to your first few polites no thank yous! Get him out and about and neutralise him to other dogs. He will be fine to show scars or not,the hair may grow back,it may not. If a Dobe can title with a patch of hair missing and scarred on his showside the size of the hand and fingers stretched out, then a few tooth holes are nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 yes you can tell anyone who tries to allow their dog to approach to F off if they don't listen to your first few polites no thank yous! I have found the most effective thing to say if people ask about greeting (or if they don't ask)... is "Bad Idea". I'm not sure why that works better than "no thanks", "keep your dog away", "call your dog" or "eff off" and you don't always get time to be polite... but "bad idea" - means they're going to look stupid if they don't listen to you and it all goes to hell. Without actually calling them stupid. Maybe that's why it works. I still haven't figured it out apart from this works: hand up like a stop sign and "Bad idea" (in a happy tone so I don't set my dog off). They will at least stay at a distance and chat with you about it instead of letting their dog bound in. There's still the totally out of control people who let their dog cross a football oval to greet yours. I tend to grab those dogs and hand my dog to someone else... I figure if their dog bites me for grabbing it... it's in big trouble in a way that dogs biting each other - harder to get outside help with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 And walk backwards, calling your dog to your front and rewarding heavily - much harder for someone to say hi to your dog's tail...changes your dog's focus too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stressmagnet Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Yup. Stupid Choccy Fratboy is a walking invitation for every numpty with any dog to let their dog rush up and say HIHIHIHIHIHI! I'm over it. Ernie now wears a nylon 'studded' thick collar (OK there's a hidden love heart on the buckle!) and as soon as any dog starts to rush him I yell 'Bad idea bad idea!' at the owner and put Ernie in a sit/stay. It works like a charm, this combo. I'm known as the lady with the worlds first Labrador attack dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Yup. Stupid Choccy Fratboy is a walking invitation for every numpty with any dog to let their dog rush up and say HIHIHIHIHIHI! I'm over it. Ernie now wears a nylon 'studded' thick collar (OK there's a hidden love heart on the buckle!) and as soon as any dog starts to rush him I yell 'Bad idea bad idea!' at the owner and put Ernie in a sit/stay. It works like a charm, this combo. I'm known as the lady with the worlds first Labrador attack dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Bahahahahahahaha Stressy, I love your style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) (snip) I'm known as the lady with the worlds first Labrador attack dog. There's quite a few - I'd say about one in ten labs that show up at our local parks are killer attack labs. Only problem with that is - their owners are letting their attack labs go attack. ARGH. Well not all of them but it's crap when it happens. I don't take for granted that labs, or golden retrievers or poodle crosses will be friendly - I'm a lot more optimistic about an off lead SBT than one of the others. PS - woot - "bad idea" works for other people besides me :) Edited February 6, 2016 by Mrs Rusty Bucket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottsmum Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (snip) I'm known as the lady with the worlds first Labrador attack dog. There's quite a few - I'd say about one in ten labs that show up at our local parks are killer attack labs. Only problem with that is - their owners are letting their attack labs go attack. ARGH. Well not all of them but it's crap when it happens. I don't take for granted that labs, or golden retrievers or poodle crosses will be friendly - I'm a lot more optimistic about an off lead SBT than one of the others. PS - woot - "bad idea" works for other people besides me :) My mum's a florist - tells a story about how, back in the day, when she was pregnant with me she did a flower delivery and when the recipient wasn't home she let herslef round the back and went to leave the flowers in the laundry - note on front door. Apparently this was pretty standard 30+ years ago, small country town in NSW. Anyhow - she successfully left the flowers to turn around and find herself bailed up by a big black lab. She had to lock her self in until the owners got home Unfortunately I was recently attacked by a lab bitch too - back before the move - she bailed me up - lucky I was close enough to home for Dad to come save my arse. She was people frondly, just dog reactive. It was very scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airedaler Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 A scar or two will not prevent him from being shown. The dogs are judges on their conformation and a small scar is not going to impact on that IF he is good enough. Unfortunately he might not be "perfect" and he might not win regardless of the scar. I'm still looking for the perfect dog in my breed after 43 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-o Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Socialising is important for the well being of the dog. A dog is a living being under your care 1st and a show dog 2nd. It sounds very unfortunate. The kelpie may have never bitten a dog before, and may not have bitten your dog as an attack. I've seen it often where a protective owner will pull their dog back, pick it up and hug it, and all this does is frustrate the other dog who'll then try and jump or grab. If the protective owner is agitated, panics, or shouts, then this can also worsen the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) Socialising is important for the well being of the dog. A dog is a living being under your care 1st and a show dog 2nd. It sounds very unfortunate. The kelpie may have never bitten a dog before, and may not have bitten your dog as an attack. I've seen it often where a protective owner will pull their dog back, pick it up and hug it, and all this does is frustrate the other dog who'll then try and jump or grab. If the protective owner is agitated, panics, or shouts, then this can also worsen the situation. It is unfair to try to shift blame the onto owner of a dog who has been bitten for the behaviour of the biting dog. Making excuses for a dog that bites a pup is also hardly helpful. I will sure as hell pull my dog back or pick it up if the behaviour of the other dog is aggressive. It's hardly worsening a situation if it leaves your dog intact. I agree that socialisation is important for dogs. Controlled socialisation with dogs with appropriate behaviour and owners that know what their dogs will do. I'd rather not socialise my dog than give it bad experiences. Edited February 15, 2016 by Haredown Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Plenty of dogs are shown with war wounds of one kind or another. Don't dwell on the incident and continue on with your training, your pup doesn't need to meet and greet other dogs. Find some people with stable dogs that you can go for short walks with at shows. Enter sweepstakes where he will have plenty of time to stand around in the ring and be surrounded by puppies (these are usually non threatening). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Is there show training in your area? I've found this an enormous help for socialising my two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Not sure where you are in NSW, but Clarence Club at Grafton have show training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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