Best/cheapest Way For Worming?

[Willem]

....Tip #2 There is no need to treat monthly, even for heartworm. Heartworm is not dangerous until it reaches maturity, which takes a minimum of 6 months. It can also be killed at any point during that 6 months. Many people only treat their dogs for heartworm every 3 months (giving you 2 opportunities each 6months to eradicate the buggers). Many will also only treat during the summer months, from first mosquito sighting until about a month after they disappear (heartworm is transmitted via mosquito). We treat all year round, the first day of each new season to help us remember....

...this strategy is not 100% safe, e.g. there might be a 5% likelihood that the dog will suffer from an adult heartworm depending on the drug used, more info here on Wikipedia, see Prevention.

If its heart guard you are using then its safe to give at any point of the worm lifecycle.

So that 5% wouldn't matter.

Other drugs may.

...ingredient of heartguard is ivermectin, so according to the Wikipedia link it matters (?):

quote: ..."Lapses of up to four months between doses of ivermectin-based products still provides 95% protection from adult worms. This period is called the reach-back effect.[18] Annual heartworm testing is highly recommended for pet owners who choose to use minimal dosing schedules..."

[Willem]

Thanks for the suggestions guys!

How can i find out whats in my area? I live in Cherrybrook, (Hills District) and don't really know much about what is in the area, i live next to the bush. Does that mean there could be ticks? or no correlation there?

From what ive gathered, tape worms come from fleas and as advocate kills fleas, thats why it doesnt cover tapeworm.

So do you guys think advocate is my best bet?

Thanks !

..yep, very likely that ticks (brown and paralytic) are around there...so advocate alone won't help...you would need Advantix, Bravecto or Nexguard...

[DeltaCharlie]

....Tip #2 There is no need to treat monthly, even for heartworm. Heartworm is not dangerous until it reaches maturity, which takes a minimum of 6 months. It can also be killed at any point during that 6 months. Many people only treat their dogs for heartworm every 3 months (giving you 2 opportunities each 6months to eradicate the buggers). Many will also only treat during the summer months, from first mosquito sighting until about a month after they disappear (heartworm is transmitted via mosquito). We treat all year round, the first day of each new season to help us remember....

...this strategy is not 100% safe, e.g. there might be a 5% likelihood that the dog will suffer from an adult heartworm depending on the drug used, more info here on Wikipedia, see Prevention.

Where do you get 5% from? Genuine question, not trying to be picky :) I find it too hard to read multiple pages at once on my phone so haven't opened the link yet.

For a dog to get heartworm it needs to be bitten by a mosquito who is carrying it. For a mosquito to be carrying it it needs to have bitten a different dog who has adult heartworms. Mosquitos don't live very long so all this has to happen in a very short period of time. Once you factor in the % chance of all of those stars aligning, and then combine it with the % chance of you missing any heartworms on 2+ treatments, your risk factor is becoming very miniscule :)

[Willem]

....Tip #2 There is no need to treat monthly, even for heartworm. Heartworm is not dangerous until it reaches maturity, which takes a minimum of 6 months. It can also be killed at any point during that 6 months. Many people only treat their dogs for heartworm every 3 months (giving you 2 opportunities each 6months to eradicate the buggers). Many will also only treat during the summer months, from first mosquito sighting until about a month after they disappear (heartworm is transmitted via mosquito). We treat all year round, the first day of each new season to help us remember....

...this strategy is not 100% safe, e.g. there might be a 5% likelihood that the dog will suffer from an adult heartworm depending on the drug used, more info here on Wikipedia, see Prevention.

Where do you get 5% from? Genuine question, not trying to be picky :) I find it too hard to read multiple pages at once on my phone so haven't opened the link yet.

For a dog to get heartworm it needs to be bitten by a mosquito who is carrying it. For a mosquito to be carrying it it needs to have bitten a different dog who has adult heartworms. Mosquitos don't live very long so all this has to happen in a very short period of time. Once you factor in the % chance of all of those stars aligning, and then combine it with the % chance of you missing any heartworms on 2+ treatments, your risk factor is becoming very miniscule :)

...from the quote: ..."Lapses of up to four months between doses of ivermectin-based products still provides 95% protection from adult worms. This period is called the reach-back effect.[18] Annual heartworm testing is highly recommended for pet owners who choose to use minimal dosing schedules..."

[*kirty*]

I do Advantage for fleas - one large dog 6 pack treats ever animal in the house (11 cats and 5 dogs).

For worms I use a bulk all-wormer that can be used for cats and dogs.

[Steve]

Before you can decide what is best for your dog you need to know the risk factor in your area and take into account how the dog lives. There is a greater risk for example of heartworm if it sleeps outside and is more likely to get bitten by mozzies .But even then it has to have certain conditions for a certain time to be able to incubate,you need to have the right female mozzies and infected dogs in your local area and if it lives with air conditioning which lowers the temperature so the worm lavae cant incubate.

Look at this and consider whether there really is a risk in your area for your dog for heartworm. My link.

External parasites - ticks fleas - from memory in your area is a pretty big risk but again you need to consider where the dog lives, where it goes, Eating a flea gives them flea tape worm and ticks are deadly. Consider how each product works some need to have the flea bite the dog for it to die,others kill the fleas and the eggs, some repel them. Tropical aeroguard or an essential oil spray can be used on the dog's feet legs and under carriage before it goes for a walk but again it depends on how you assess the risk factors in your area for your dog. No matter what you use you have to check daily if you have ticks in your area.

Diatomaceous Earth [food grade] is great to get rid of intestinal parasites and fleas and ticks .I add this each day to my dogs [and my] food with some occasional wormwood. Cheap as and works better than anything Ive experimented with over the last 40 years .Used in your environment it wipes out fleas and ticks really efficiently and quickly too. My link

I use natural things and stay away as much as I can from chemicals not because its cheaper but because for me it works better and keeps my dog's immune system healthy. As it turns out its also much cheaper. But the secret is do your own research for whats best for you and your dog in your area based on your variables - get educated. It pays off in saving money and your dog's health.

[RiverStar-Aura]

I made the switch to Nexgard a few months back for my two dogs, however, after a vomit for the first time at their last dose and seeing how much my boy Zeus is being annoyed by flies and other biting things, I think I'll be going back to the fortnightly doses of Advantix.

Heartworm, I use Valuheart monthly and every three months I give a Drontal tablet.

To help keep costs down I find using tablets rather than chews a better choice because I find them to be more easily cut up and divided between my different sized dogs.

[Melt]

On 18/11/2015 at 7:17 PM, indigirl said:

I use panacur. It's used off label for worming here, it's sold as sheep drench. Overseas they use panacur for worming

Way more economical. I have 12 dogs.. Panacur 100 costs me $170 for a litre which last me 2 years or more, worning every 3 months. Panacur also treats Giardia.

Reacue ppl and greyhound ppl use panacur. That's how I found out about it.

Hi,  what is the dosage you give your dogs for Guardia?  Do you use panacur 100 or panacur 25.   Can it be used for puppies?  Thanks

[sandgrubber]

On 11/20/2015 at 6:58 AM, Steve said:

 

 

the secret is do your own research for whats best for you and your dog in your area based on your variables - get educated. It pays off in saving money and your dog's health.

Oops.... This is an old thread... No need to repeat myself 

Edited November 25, 2018 by sandgrubber

[asal]

On 19/11/2015 at 8:06 PM, DeltaCharlie said:

Where do you get 5% from? Genuine question, not trying to be picky I find it too hard to read multiple pages at once on my phone so haven't opened the link yet.

For a dog to get heartworm it needs to be bitten by a mosquito who is carrying it. For a mosquito to be carrying it it needs to have bitten a different dog who has adult heartworms. Mosquitos don't live very long so all this has to happen in a very short period of time. Once you factor in the % chance of all of those stars aligning, and then combine it with the % chance of you missing any heartworms on 2+ treatments, your risk factor is becoming very miniscule

it seems minuscule, but when you start finding out  your neighbours dogs are being diagnosed with heart-worm because they thought just that but mine are fine because i use ivermectin sheep drench shows its pretty busy out there although I live in the penrith nsw area so this place is riddled with heart worm obviously