colliehound Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I like bad idea........will remember that............ That's a good video Thistledog... I have found putting a hand up like a stop sign and saying "Bad Idea" stops people too. All the other stuff like "keep away", "call your dog" etc doesn't work... And people do want to argue with you... but they don't argue with "bad idea"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Best Dogs! Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) The new rules in response have been implemented! http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/bunnings-enforces-muzzles-leashes-for-dogs-in-store-after-bite/news-story/c08324b8870d975ae65f936c2283caad#load-story-comments BUNNINGS has introduced tighter restrictions on dogs entering its stores. Dogs must be on a lead and wearing a muzzle or be carried by their owners under the new rules. They will also be allowed to ride in the back of utes as long as they are securely tethered, the hardware chain has revealed. Bunnings operations director Michael Schneider said the company has received a lot of feedback from the community about its dog policy and has responded. “While many of our customers and team welcomed the news, some have voiced concerns and it’s important that we take these views on board,” Mr Schneider said. “A commonsense approach is what people have asked for and we hope our revisions hit the spot.” Her mother Ebbie Hungerford had called for dogs to be banned from stores. Mrs Hungerford said the new pet policy changes were a step in the right direction. “I’m happy they have reviewed their policy, I think it’s a good change,” Mrs Hungerford said. Mrs Hungerford was holding her daughter’s’ hand at the time a Jack Russell bit her girl’s knee at the hardware store’s tool counter. The incident left Madelyn with two puncture marks and bruises. Bunnings confirmed that assistance animals would still be allowed in the stores. Edited November 19, 2015 by Thistle the dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivory & Beau Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Well that ruins it for Ivy and I No way will I be putting a muzzle on her. Such a shame as we really enjoyed our Bunnings visit last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 No way could I carry my dogs :laugh: ...I will just keep parking in the trade section undercover if I happen to have my dogs with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denali Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 And already someone with a cav was turned away and said they had to be muzzled full stop. Not just carried. Sucks. I wanted to take Koda, and its an excellent place for puppy socialisation so i was hoping it would last a few years and i'd be able to take future pup there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denali Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 So annoying. Especially as i have met more out of control and unsupervised children at bunnings with those damn miniature trolleys than out of control dogs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stressmagnet Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Well no quick trip into Bunnings on the way back from his walk then. I'm not muzzling him. And it's a pain coz Bunnings is right on the way home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascalmyshadow Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Always the same typical over reaction and the minority ruin it for the majority! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhou Xuanyao Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Well that defeats the purpose of the reason they introduced it in the first place. Who's going to carry a muzzle around in the car for their dog just in case they stop in at Bunnings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverStar-Aura Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 And which owners of dogs who can behave in crowds would even own a muzzle in the first place. Can we suggest feral kids wear straight jackets in shops to stop them touching stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 And which owners of dogs who can behave in crowds would even own a muzzle in the first place. Can we suggest feral kids wear straight jackets in shops to stop them touching stuff? ...here we go again...we already had the recommendation to use leashes for kids, now it's straitjackets...what's next?...e-collar?...how can someone put 'touching things' on the same level as 'biting people'?...is it the kids fault that Bunnings changed their policy?...I never heard that a kid bit someone in Bunnings when someone accidently bumped into them or passed them too close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhou Xuanyao Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I emailed him, basically said what I just said here, and he wants to have coffee and discuss it face to face. Bit better than the usual platitudes we're used to when sending feedback to these companies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) No way could I carry my dogs :laugh: ...I will just keep parking in the trade section undercover if I happen to have my dogs with me. ...Bunnings doesn't differ between cars / trucks of tradies and cars of other customers that drive into the sheltered area, I do it most of the time (driving into the sheltered area) especially if I have to buy some bulky stuff - my understanding is that it is actually not only for tradies as it would be a little bit tricky to pass the normal checkout with a 3.6 m long yellow tongue particle board. Therefore any dog owner can drive in and leave the dog in the car under the sheltered area without having to use a muzzle ... ETA:...there is a downside so as that gate to the 'tradie' section closes earlier....sometimes I found it already closed at 4pm; so it is a good idea to call your local store for the opening hours of the gates if you plan to drive in. Edited November 21, 2015 by Willem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Best Dogs! Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 And which owners of dogs who can behave in crowds would even own a muzzle in the first place. Can we suggest feral kids wear straight jackets in shops to stop them touching stuff? Just to touch on, plenty of well behaved dogs are muzzle trained and their owners have muzzles in the car. It pays to be prepared in an emergency! I got my muzzle before the incident that damaged my dog, for any emergencies + hopes to take her on public tranport sometime (muzzle required). Muzzles aren't just for "bad" dogs, plenty of good dogs have them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) And which owners of dogs who can behave in crowds would even own a muzzle in the first place. Can we suggest feral kids wear straight jackets in shops to stop them touching stuff? No. Dogs are not children. Society cuts children more slack and as dog owners we'd best never forget it. I hate how so many of these bites on children stories turn into "dogs v kids" threads. Its a pointless comparison. Our dogs are not our children, they are not "fur babies" or "fur people". Its one of the reasons I really dislike those terms. This incident appears to have been caused by the kind of dog owner who didn't manage the dogs well in a stressful, volatile environment. I can hear it now "he's never done that before". Well folks, given the same circumstances he will again. As for the "only muzzled dogs in Bunnings"? Mine will be staying home, where I would have left them anyway to prevent them being put in a situation they found threatening or uncomfortable. Edited November 20, 2015 by Haredown Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Interestingly I got bitten for the first time ever by a dog who had never bitten before. Difference was I was well aware he had poor social skills but that also included no growl and just a lunge and grab. Luckily for me years of being confined to a brick courtyard and chewing on bricks meant his teeth were very worn down. Lovely dog just way over stimulated at that moment. Lucky for him he has amazing new owners who are doing everything they can to help a dog previously severely let down. Anyway, I am off point. My Whippets have been trained to wear light racing muzzles. Yes I have them in my dogs gear bag. One can be a bit so so if dogs get in her face and the youngest used to nip the others when playing and once opened my bitch up accidentally so they both will wear muzzles. We also park in the tradie area all the time when getting supplies as a lot of the stuff we get is the same as the tradies buy. We just don't have an account and pay with cash :) Edited November 21, 2015 by OSoSwift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 And which owners of dogs who can behave in crowds would even own a muzzle in the first place. Can we suggest feral kids wear straight jackets in shops to stop them touching stuff? No. Dogs are not children. Society cuts children more slack and as dog owners we'd best never forget it. I hate how so many of these bites on children stories turn into "dogs v kids" threads. Its a pointless comparison. Our dogs are not our children, they are not "fur babies" or "fur people". Its one of the reasons I really dislike those terms. This incident appears to have been caused by the kind of dog owner who didn't manage the dogs well in a stressful, volatile environment. I can hear it now "he's never done that before". Well folks, given the same circumstances he will again. As for the "only muzzled dogs in Bunnings"? Mine will be staying home, where I would have left them anyway to prevent them being put in a situation they found threatening or uncomfortable. I think this specific accident could have also happend with an adult / regular customer bitten by this dog (I guess the dog's owners problem was also that he had to supervise 2 dogs at the same time which definitely increased the risk factor), so I agree, this shouldn't be a 'dog vs kids' thread at all. Consequently all the suggestions wrt controlling those 'feral kids' are out of place. Actually, when I walk our dog my experience is that there are more adults than kids who want to pat her! Wrt the new policy: Bunnings might overreact, but it is their responsibility to keep the place safe, and obviously their options are limited, e.g. they won't hire a dog expert that will undertake a comprehensive evaluation whether the dog an owner wants to take into the shop is safe. What ever Bunnings will do in the future, the accident should be a reminder that it is the dog's owner duty of care to train the dog for the dog's and others safety, to train him no matter how old the dog is, and to make sure that the likelihood that such accidents happen are little as possible. Never assume that your dog won't do this or that because he never did it before. If an accident like this happens - doesn't have to be at Bunnings! - it never will help to improve the reputation of dogs and their owners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 This is once again a case of one irresponsibile person ruining it for others. Whilst most people on DOL have well behaved dogs or at least recognize what situations their dog wouldn't cope with, clearly the general public don't. It was a nice gesture of bunnings but I didn't think it would last in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverStar-Aura Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 The point I was making with my straight jacket comment is that as a shopper I still have to suffer through the feral bastard kids who run amok, get in my way and just be arseholes because they haven't been taught any better. We can't ask those parents to take their kids and bugger off out of the store because then we get called all sorts of names because how dare we not be "kid friendly". I understand that dogs are not humans (thanks for that HW because I had *no* idea before now), but just as people shouldn't be expected to tolerate bad dog behaviour, nor should I as someone who dislikes children, have to suffer through bad, moronic parenting and feral sh*ts who can't be controlled. If your child can't behave in public, don't take them out either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I was at Bunnings today. Nary a dog in sight. Nor indeed, children. Perhaps the dogs vs kids argument is keeping both away. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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