Guest donatella Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Plenty of tradies have their dogs with them all day, beats leaving them in a hot ute Someone is going to ruin this and everyoone can go back to the archaic view on dogs that the rest of the world has no problems with Don't get me wrong, I don't want it banned etc, I just won't be taking my clowns. They're too big to scoop up if there's trouble, its a totally foreign environment with other dogs in the same boat and I don't want to put them at risk as close to bomb proof as I think they are. Its not worth jeopardising that for us. Everyone else is welcome to go for gold, haha. I would take mine either but pet stores seem to make it work I wonder why bunnings can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Plenty of tradies have their dogs with them all day, beats leaving them in a hot ute Someone is going to ruin this and everyoone can go back to the archaic view on dogs that the rest of the world has no problems with Don't get me wrong, I don't want it banned etc, I just won't be taking my clowns. They're too big to scoop up if there's trouble, its a totally foreign environment with other dogs in the same boat and I don't want to put them at risk as close to bomb proof as I think they are. Its not worth jeopardising that for us. Everyone else is welcome to go for gold, haha. I would take mine either but pet stores seem to make it work I wonder why bunnings can't Weekends are different though don - it gets pretty crazy in my local Bunnings especially if the weather is nice. I take my pup to the pet store mid-week when it's quiet and I can train and socialise her appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Its an unfortunate incident. Im on the fence with the whole Bunnings/dogs thing. I really don't think the vast majority of dogs/dog owners in this country have anywhere near the level of commitment to the social skills of their dog for this to work very well at the moment. Many people tell stories of other countries where dogs are free to move around socially with their owners, both inside and outside of public and private spaces. The thing is though, the level of training of the dogs is generally excellent, as in solid down stay, sit stay etc, and no social novelty of being around other dogs. As well as just growing up with this social aspect in their lives. The average owner/dog combo going in to Bunnings is going to have little ability to do a solid stay while they owner browses shelf items, goes through the checkout etc. Doesn't have the mindset of keeping the dog close and watching for signs of stress, instead letting the dog free range on it's leash, piss on stock, sniff and hassle other shoppers, etc etc. Just like a lot of folks do with dog parks, people will take their dogs in to this new environment with no effort to set the dog up for success, and blame every one else when it goes wrong. The sense of I'm entitled to bring my dog, so stuff off. Bunnings might do well to provide dog in store workshops run by dog trainers, just like they do with tools & techniques for DIY and tradies ... my brother and my brother in-law live in Germany - both have dogs; would they bring the dogs to a hardware store?...never ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 And I guess people coming to pet stores probably assume there will be pets or at least might be more pet savvy than someone shopping at bunnings. Also there's no forklifts or big racks of timber/tools to go over in pet stores. I'm clumsy enough alone without my equally clumsy dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjrt Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The level of owner/dog management I have to implement for clients entering the few square metres of reception space in my salon is mind boggling. People just do not watch their dogs. In a tiny area like this i have had so many dogs toilet, right by their owner, right on the end of the lead, and the owner, standing right there, and the only dog/owner in reception, refuse to accept that it was their dog that messed up! they shuffle though their bags or yap on their phone while the dog tries to grab stock, toilets on the walls, stock, pulls its head out of its way too loose collar and runs amok. All this in a tiny space where all they have to concentrate on is their dog!! So yeah, the scope for things to go to shit in and around the hardware store..... the vast majority of Aussies and their dogs just arent ready for it! I am not saying it shouldnt be allowed though....it just needs a lot of education around it so we might start on the path to wider acceptance of dogs in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Best Dogs! Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Plenty of tradies have their dogs with them all day, beats leaving them in a hot ute Someone is going to ruin this and everyoone can go back to the archaic view on dogs that the rest of the world has no problems with Don't get me wrong, I don't want it banned etc, I just won't be taking my clowns. They're too big to scoop up if there's trouble, its a totally foreign environment with other dogs in the same boat and I don't want to put them at risk as close to bomb proof as I think they are. Its not worth jeopardising that for us. Everyone else is welcome to go for gold, haha. Agreed. There's no way I'd take my dog into a Bunnings. But I believe this new permission was given due to their desire to avoid dogs in the car park? Bound to be some teething issues as everyone willy nilly takes advantage of the new permissions. God knows I was tempted by the novelty, then told myself off for such a stupid idea ;p I'll stick to parking right in front of gardens and asking the greeter to keep an eye on my car The article I linked is definately sparse on details, as new news articles usually are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhok Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I don't know why people compare dog ownership in European countries and dog ownership here in Aus. They are like apples and oranges. Many of the European people I know through dog pages and some pet owners I know through online games are very socially responsible. This was bound to happen due to the Aussie "she'll be right" attitude when it comes to things. --Lhok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donatella Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Yes the Americans have Caesar Milan they are way ahead :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaznHotAussies Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Oh great, it's already been ruined for us I personally really like the idea of allowing dogs in Bunnings. If we're in Perth with the dog/s & need to grab things, it's much better than someone having to stay in the car with the dog to make sure it's ok. It's a bit different to country towns where you just leave the car running while you dash into the shop! There are some dogs out there who would absolutely love it - I know Tundra LOVES going out places, at Horseland & Petbarn/Better Pets, home football games he makes lots of friends (we do need to work on his excitement but haven't taken him since he was a puppy and he's calmed down a fair bit in general). And really if you've got one person holding the dog & the other person pushing the trolley it's not that hard to keep a dog under control. All they need to do is let dogs into Target and I wouldn't have to leave the dogs at home when we go to Perth. (jk, I can barely handle shopping centres, can hardly expect the dogs to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I actually find the bunnings thing really worrisome. People are not shopping, but taking their dogs there for a 'day out' or for the novelty. I'd rather them say something like we would rather you bring your dog in than leave it in a hot car, not BRING YOUR DOGS TO BUNNINGS! I feel like such a Grinch but I've already seen dogs off lead there, one dog visibly shaking and cowering (both in one trip!) and heard people excited to take their fearful dogs for a shop at peak time, its a recipe for disaster. Hopefully once the novelty wears off its better as its such an awesome initiative to not have dogs in cars but I'll be leaving the beasts home until then. Bunnings never said 'bring your dogs'. It wasn't encouraged but they won't refuse pets into the store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Why would anyone other than a tradie WANT to take their dog to Bunnings anyways? Seems kinda silly to me... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazyWal Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Too many people don't control their kids or their dogs so to me it's just a recipe for disaster. Dogs cocking their legs on stuff and what about runny poos? You need to hose that off concrete, brings a whole new meaning to "mop and bucket in aisle 4" There's no way I'd take my two, last thing I need is my dogs being attacked again. I'm sure they can get through life without a trip to Bunnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwynwen Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Why would anyone other than a tradie WANT to take their dog to Bunnings anyways? Seems kinda silly to me... T. In theory it would be great for me when travelling to the bush shack with just the dogs and needing to pick up something, although I have enough trouble subjecting myself to Bunnings, I wouldn't do it to my dogs. ..... perhaps they could put a few kennels out the front under cover for customers .... like a dog locker .... not entirely kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Best Dogs! Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Why would anyone other than a tradie WANT to take their dog to Bunnings anyways? Seems kinda silly to me... T. I imagine a lot of people run errands and stuff throughout the day on the way to/from things with their dog in toe. I know I do, although I keep mine in the car with front windows half down and ask the greeters to keep an eye on her/misguided do-gooders wanting to break in. Never for long trips, just quick in and outs. I saw the Bunnings announcement as confirming dogs can go in store instead of staying in the car on hot days, and not encouragement to bring the dog for a bunnings-day-out. There's a more detailed article out now: http://mobile.news.com.au/finance/business/bunnings-new-pet-friendly-policy-has-been-called-into-question-after-a-dog-bites-girl/story-fnkgdftz-1227601830750 All reads as an unfortunate incident and the dogs were a bit overstimulated. Doesn't sound like the owner's going to be in trouble: "She (the mum?) said the busy environment of the hardware story may have been to blame and did not want the dogs to be put down." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Sadly, it was only a matter of time. Distracted dog owners + distracted parents + low general level of dog knowledge = accidents. Shame really, it would have been great for puppy socialisation but my guess is it won't last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 ...let face it: these self-service outlets todays are not made for bringing your dogs; when I visit Bunnings and the like, a lot attention is required just to find what I want, it is time consuming too. To accompany me on a shopping trip is definitely something my dog wouldn't enjoy, and it would be much more stressful for me too to have to watch her. And if I intend to buy more stuff and need a trolley...(and maybe I get one with a damaged bearing that wants to go only in one direction) ...and have to control the dog, make sure no one stumbles over the leash, have to maneuver around other trolleys loaded with 3 m long panels and trolley owners who own this specific aisle...clearly, it is better for me and the dog if the dog stays at home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 ..... perhaps they could put a few kennels out the front under cover for customers .... like a dog locker .... ...yep, that would be an alternative, under cover, with water... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerB Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Why would anyone other than a tradie WANT to take their dog to Bunnings anyways? Seems kinda silly to me... T. Exactly! You're not going for a walk on a nice bush track or down the beach. We're all fine popping in to the supermarket without our dogs, i'm sure we'll all be fine (and i'm pretty sure most of our dogs will be too) going to Bunnings without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I think the clearly obvious answer to what tradies do with their dogs when in Bunnings is the same for everyone. Leave them at home. They're not animated rear tray decorations and quite frankly a lot of them would be better off at home out of the elements during the working week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donatella Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Well more details on the incident and the kid went in for a pat, no surprise! http://mobile.news.com.au/finance/business/bunnings-new-pet-friendly-policy-has-been-called-into-question-after-a-dog-bites-girl/story-fnkgdftz-1227601830750 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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