BarbedWire Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 How so Sars? Some of the comments are illogical and the language is so cliche. For example: She gets rid of pups because she doesn't like cleaning up after them. The cleaning up is worse for a pup than an adult dog. (I have a pup here and the cleaning up is non-stop. Hopefully she will grow out of it SOON) The daughter's reaction. What mother could make light of a broken-hearted daughter? If it was real I think she would leave that part out or even choose to forget it. She also mentions the dog looking at her accusingly as it is driven away. If it was real she wouldn't mention this or she would not read it this way. She would say the dog was delighted to leave. Then she jumps to Juno shedding hair all over the sofa when the original beef was the dog escaping. She kept her first dog for 10 years. Why the change? Albus was aggressive. Why? Because she thought he had staffy in him? The heartless way she talks about her dog attacking the elderly neighbour's westie. (There would have been legal repercussions). Then she rehomes same dog to a family with 2 cats and 5 children. No-one could be so irresponsible. The same for the dog that attacked livestock. The neighbours would have been screaming at her unless they were her own animals. "If I'm naughty Mum will you rehome me too?" A child would not actually say this. It is just something that some adults say the child must be thinking. cliche: doe-eyed little puppy, a dog is a man's best friend, etc There is no originality. The 4 dogs misbehave in all the usually reported ways - being too messy, escaping, aggressive, digging, killing livestock, counter surfing, and none of them repeat the misdemeanors of the earlier dogs which you would expect. An ad (video) for Dogs' Trust pops up on my screen saying that a dog is forever, not just for Christmas. I don't know why these ads pop up and whether everyone gets the same one, but it suggests to me that the article was sponsored by a dog rescue group. Puppies might toilet inside but they tend not to maul sheep, jump fences or attack other dogs. "Mess" does not just mean chewed up papers or poo in the house. Also, the Dogs Trust video was not a paid ad on the page, it was placed as a video there because it was relevant to the story. This isn't a story about someone who just casually discards adult dogs because she's grown tired of them, these dogs have all had some serious behavioural issues (not that those issues excuse her dumping them). I don't know why some people feel the need to see conspiracy or trickery behind every corner. It was an article written by a woman about her experiences as a (bad) pet owner, not some veiled pushing of agendas or anything else. Seriously I said that my gut feeling is that it is a hoax and SG asked me to explain. As I said I have no idea why the ad pops up on my page. I don't understand such things. It's unfair to accuse me of seeing trickery and conspiracy everywhere (but of course you said some people didn't you? ie you didn't mean me.) I have no doubt that some people rehome their dogs on a whim. I just don't believe this article. Have a nice day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I saw this on FB a week or so ago and it was truly sickening. My first thought was (and I think I posted so) that she should get a visit from the Child safety department - whatever it is called where she lives. If true, she is severely psychological damaged and is doing the same in an horrific way to her child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 I saw this on FB a week or so ago and it was truly sickening. My first thought was (and I think I posted so) that she should get a visit from the Child safety department - whatever it is called where she lives. If true, she is severely psychological damaged and is doing the same in an horrific way to her child. Here's one! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3040716/Shopped-social-services-m-not-perfect-mum-Shona-Sibary-malicious-phone-call-seen-little-girl-taken-care.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjrt Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 A child may or may not say that but I can assure you, under some conditions, they sure would think it. By the time I was six I came to realise that neither of my parents really loved me. One wanted me dead, the other was just not engaged. Once the one that wanted me dead had left when I was nine, the next thing the other one did was take us for a drive to a 'posh area' and tip our Persian cat out of the car. And then drive to a nice paddock behind a factory and tip our pet rabbit out of the car. By the time I was nine, among other things, I learnt I was not loved, and I learnt that pets are disposable, and how to dispose of them. And I thought perhaps I might be next to be tipped out of the car. Oh, no, wait.... That happened a couple of times too. My mother often said she was sending me away to a childrens home if i misbehaved. Mum sent away two of my dogs; i came home from school grabbed the lead to take him for a walk and she told me she had called the ranger to take him;i had to watch him being taken away. Another she got my brother to take to the pound when i was on school camp because she dug her roses out. Most of my dogs were given to me by my older brothers who got them from friends whose dog had pups. One was dumped on my front lawn by a friends friend. I also had a dog stolen from our yard when we were home inside. Another was hit by a car when my brother left the gate open. I didn't want to have dogs after all this as mum didn't like dogs and there was always the worry if they would be there when i came home. Oh and the aviary full of my budgies she let loose after i had a minor argument with her. Ahhh! too many bad memories;i feel sick now.. I hope it's not true about this woman. Parents hey, ...who'd have 'em!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 How so Sars? Some of the comments are illogical and the language is so cliche. For example: She gets rid of pups because she doesn't like cleaning up after them. The cleaning up is worse for a pup than an adult dog. (I have a pup here and the cleaning up is non-stop. Hopefully she will grow out of it SOON) The daughter's reaction. What mother could make light of a broken-hearted daughter? If it was real I think she would leave that part out or even choose to forget it. She also mentions the dog looking at her accusingly as it is driven away. If it was real she wouldn't mention this or she would not read it this way. She would say the dog was delighted to leave. Then she jumps to Juno shedding hair all over the sofa when the original beef was the dog escaping. She kept her first dog for 10 years. Why the change? Albus was aggressive. Why? Because she thought he had staffy in him? The heartless way she talks about her dog attacking the elderly neighbour's westie. (There would have been legal repercussions). Then she rehomes same dog to a family with 2 cats and 5 children. No-one could be so irresponsible. The same for the dog that attacked livestock. The neighbours would have been screaming at her unless they were her own animals. "If I'm naughty Mum will you rehome me too?" A child would not actually say this. It is just something that some adults say the child must be thinking. cliche: doe-eyed little puppy, a dog is a man's best friend, etc There is no originality. The 4 dogs misbehave in all the usually reported ways - being too messy, escaping, aggressive, digging, killing livestock, counter surfing, and none of them repeat the misdemeanors of the earlier dogs which you would expect. An ad (video) for Dogs' Trust pops up on my screen saying that a dog is forever, not just for Christmas. I don't know why these ads pop up and whether everyone gets the same one, but it suggests to me that the article was sponsored by a dog rescue group. Puppies might toilet inside but they tend not to maul sheep, jump fences or attack other dogs. "Mess" does not just mean chewed up papers or poo in the house. Also, the Dogs Trust video was not a paid ad on the page, it was placed as a video there because it was relevant to the story. This isn't a story about someone who just casually discards adult dogs because she's grown tired of them, these dogs have all had some serious behavioural issues (not that those issues excuse her dumping them). I don't know why some people feel the need to see conspiracy or trickery behind every corner. It was an article written by a woman about her experiences as a (bad) pet owner, not some veiled pushing of agendas or anything else. Seriously I said that my gut feeling is that it is a hoax and SG asked me to explain. As I said I have no idea why the ad pops up on my page. I don't understand such things. It's unfair to accuse me of seeing trickery and conspiracy everywhere (but of course you said some people didn't you? ie you didn't mean me.) I have no doubt that some people rehome their dogs on a whim. I just don't believe this article. Have a nice day! I appreciate the explanation sars :) and I can see where you're coming from. I don't know what to make of this woman. I did a bit of reading about her last week because I couldn't believe someone would seriously say the things she says in her columns. There was obviously negativity towards her not only for what she writes but also for how she constantly puts her kids in the public eye (there are lots of pictures of them out there) but there was also something about her apparently telling people not to believe everything they read in response to criticism, so maybe she does make things up or exaggerate things. I'm just not quite clear on what she's trying to achieve by it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 How so Sars? Some of the comments are illogical and the language is so cliche. For example: She gets rid of pups because she doesn't like cleaning up after them. The cleaning up is worse for a pup than an adult dog. (I have a pup here and the cleaning up is non-stop. Hopefully she will grow out of it SOON) The daughter's reaction. What mother could make light of a broken-hearted daughter? If it was real I think she would leave that part out or even choose to forget it. She also mentions the dog looking at her accusingly as it is driven away. If it was real she wouldn't mention this or she would not read it this way. She would say the dog was delighted to leave. Then she jumps to Juno shedding hair all over the sofa when the original beef was the dog escaping. She kept her first dog for 10 years. Why the change? Albus was aggressive. Why? Because she thought he had staffy in him? The heartless way she talks about her dog attacking the elderly neighbour's westie. (There would have been legal repercussions). Then she rehomes same dog to a family with 2 cats and 5 children. No-one could be so irresponsible. The same for the dog that attacked livestock. The neighbours would have been screaming at her unless they were her own animals. "If I'm naughty Mum will you rehome me too?" A child would not actually say this. It is just something that some adults say the child must be thinking. cliche: doe-eyed little puppy, a dog is a man's best friend, etc There is no originality. The 4 dogs misbehave in all the usually reported ways - being too messy, escaping, aggressive, digging, killing livestock, counter surfing, and none of them repeat the misdemeanors of the earlier dogs which you would expect. An ad (video) for Dogs' Trust pops up on my screen saying that a dog is forever, not just for Christmas. I don't know why these ads pop up and whether everyone gets the same one, but it suggests to me that the article was sponsored by a dog rescue group. Puppies might toilet inside but they tend not to maul sheep, jump fences or attack other dogs. "Mess" does not just mean chewed up papers or poo in the house. Also, the Dogs Trust video was not a paid ad on the page, it was placed as a video there because it was relevant to the story. This isn't a story about someone who just casually discards adult dogs because she's grown tired of them, these dogs have all had some serious behavioural issues (not that those issues excuse her dumping them). I don't know why some people feel the need to see conspiracy or trickery behind every corner. It was an article written by a woman about her experiences as a (bad) pet owner, not some veiled pushing of agendas or anything else. Seriously I said that my gut feeling is that it is a hoax and SG asked me to explain. As I said I have no idea why the ad pops up on my page. I don't understand such things. It's unfair to accuse me of seeing trickery and conspiracy everywhere (but of course you said some people didn't you? ie you didn't mean me.) I have no doubt that some people rehome their dogs on a whim. I just don't believe this article. Have a nice day! I appreciate the explanation sars :) and I can see where you're coming from. I don't know what to make of this woman. I did a bit of reading about her last week because I couldn't believe someone would seriously say the things she says in her columns. There was obviously negativity towards her not only for what she writes but also for how she constantly puts her kids in the public eye (there are lots of pictures of them out there) but there was also something about her apparently telling people not to believe everything they read in response to criticism, so maybe she does make things up or exaggerate things. I'm just not quite clear on what she's trying to achieve by it though Thanks SG When I read the second article about being reported for abusing her children I decided that she is probably just exaggerating to get her readers to respond to her articles. She seems to be a bit of a twit as far as I am concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2081502/Stray-dogs-There-345-day-hard-dog-loving-home.html After a bit of a trawl through her twitter feed, it seems she lies to rescues, renegs on agreements with them (ie doesn't return the dogs she got from them when that's what she agreed), lies in her articles about where she got dogs and where they are now. This would mean she's not a journalist - she's a creative fiction writer - so I guess you can't really tell from the articles what is true and what isn't. It is appalling. And I bet her children are being unnecessarily traumatised in the process. When a dog misbehaves - you need to learn to be a better trainer - not give it away to the first person who shows an interest. Spend the money on that. And quit rewarding puppy mills with money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankdog Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 She's written it but I think there's quite a few of these type of people around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2081502/Stray-dogs-There-345-day-hard-dog-loving-home.html After a bit of a trawl through her twitter feed, it seems she lies to rescues, renegs on agreements with them (ie doesn't return the dogs she got from them when that's what she agreed), lies in her articles about where she got dogs and where they are now. This would mean she's not a journalist - she's a creative fiction writer - so I guess you can't really tell from the articles what is true and what isn't. It is appalling. And I bet her children are being unnecessarily traumatised in the process. When a dog misbehaves - you need to learn to be a better trainer - not give it away to the first person who shows an interest. Spend the money on that. And quit rewarding puppy mills with money. My underlining. I tried to read a bit of the link that given above, but it was just crazy. The woman is seriously nuts, I believe, and god knows what sort of day to day life the children have. When you learn you can’t trust what your parents says or what people close to you say, it is traumatising ---- even for adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellejaytee Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I can't even explain how enraged this stupid woman made me. And she tries to gloss over what she does by blaming it on the fact she never got a puppy as a child. PLEASE! I didn't get one either. I got one as an adult, and while he was cute and fluffy as a little puppy, I love him more and more as I watch him grow into a beautiful young dog. I just look into his eyes, and it hits me right in the feels. There are no circumstances under which I would ever get rid of him. All of the issues she's had with her dogs have been her fault. You can't just plop them in a yard and expect they instinctively know what they should/shouldn't do. I think it's really sad for a dog to get lots of attention as a puppy, only to lose that attention as they grow out of the puppy stage. My dog is my life, and even though he's 30kg now as opposed to 7kg 19 months ago, I will never stop loving him, training him, playing with him, nurturing him to be the best, happiest, enriched dog that he can be. Seeing him happy and making him happy fills my heart with joy I didn't think possible. I just hope that any dog breeder take note of who she is and never sell her another puppy, but then again, chances are she's buying from a BYB who doesn't particularly care where their pups end up, and that's terribly sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobbly Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) Inevitably in life we find ourselves having to deal with difficult, unfeeling or high conflict personalities. Unless you're an accredited psychologist or psychiatrist you can't diagnose psychological disorders, but it can be useful to develop a "working hypothesis" to manage interaction with these difficult, empathetically void or high conflict personality types. This woman displays personality traits I'd consider to be strongly suggestive of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. We have only a limited glimpse into her psyche here - a pattern of serial dog acquisition and abandonment and her attitudes and justifications. There's clear displays here of the self aggrandisement, excessive sense of entitlement, and exploitative relationships that typify Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I don't care enough to read her other articles, no doubt they re even more damning. The hallmark of Narcissistic Personality Disorder is empathy deficit. Lack of empathy is a core trait in other personality and mood disorders too (eg Anti-Social Personality Disorder) so you have to consider the entire context to develop a solid working hypothesis. It's worth noting that Borderline Personality Disorder can sometimes be mistaken for Narcissism at a casual, surface glance, but Borderline sufferers have a huge capacity for empathy, their volatility is borne of unusual emotional sensitivity, don't mistake one for the other. I have a friend who is BPD (professionally diagnosed) and she is an incredibly awesome person whom I love dearly, one of my oldest and dearest friends. I wouldn't tolerate a narcissist anywhere near me though. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a spectrum disorder, some cases are more severe, others are subclinical with only some traits, more mildly expressed. The sub clinical variety may be tolerable presences to some, they'll strategically and shamelessly suck up to authority, so they can tend to get ahead in life. Full blown narcissism isn't very common, but the garden variety subclinical varieties abound. Inevitably in the course of our lives we will run into a clinical case or two, and many sub clinical cases of narcissism. It's worthwhile knowing enough about their traits and habits to recognise the red flags when you see them and have some strategies to minimise their impact on you. Complete avoidance is the best strategy. Purdie and Blinkblinkblink, I am so sorry you went through that, I have a friend who suffered through a Narcissistic parent, the damage and harm inflicted upon her as a child is incalculable, the cruelties she suffered almost inconceivable to those of us who had parents possessed of empathy. I hope you both have good psychological supports now, I believe there are many groups for adult survivors of narcissistic parents that can be helpful. Perhaps it's worth googling, to at least know you aren't alone, that others have felt and do feel as you do, and perhaps they might offer tools and strategies that could prove useful? I'm sorry you went through that, all children are entitled to parents who are capable of empathy and real love and care, I wish you had received the love and care to which you were (and are) entitled to. Anyway this woman, this revolting dog dumping woman. My working hypothesis for her personality malfunction would be common garden variety subclinical Narcissism. It's not a set up, she's just another waste of space whose attenuated capacity for empathy makes the world a worse place, these people unfortunately are fairly abundant. Alas there's no cure for her condition, the best we can do is learn recognise people like her for what they are and try to limit the damage they inflict wherever we can. Edited September 6, 2015 by Wobbly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjrt Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Wobbly you are spot on! I scored a narcissistic sociopath for a parent. She held me hostage and enslaved me, tortured me mentally and physically, and I knew nothing other than fear and terror for the first nine years of my life. Yes the consequences are deep seated, far reaching, enduring, incalculable. After being thrown around for a while, i finally got a diagnosis that fits this year. C-PTSD. It has opened doors for me. Big scary doors, but you don't know whats on the other side of the door until you open it, hey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Wobbly that is a very interesting post. Thank you. I just wonder though how you can judge someone just by what they write in a newspaper where they are presenting themselves as a persona, a marketable one which is possibly not genuine. For example I do some writing and I am the author of a short story about a footy mum who goes on to the ground and assaults another player because he hit her son. It is written in the first person and so many people think I am the mother in the story and I'm not. it's just something I witnessed one day as a spectator. The perils of first person point of view. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 That woman is a shallow, unempathic, brainless oxygen thief> And as Wobbly says probably a narcisstic sociopath. One look at her tells me she would never get through the front door of puppy purchase at chez Jed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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