Con M Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Hi, I'm new to this forum, and unfortunately my first post isn't a positive one. We have a 5 year old Shiba Inu (purebred). We have been living at my inlaws for the last year as we are between houses. At our old house our Shiba, Keiko, was an inside and outside dog, she had lots of attention and she played well with our other dog Milo (Maltese x Shitzu; he's 12). When we moved in with my inlaws, Keiko had to now live with a 3rd dog (a 6 year old mini-Poodle that has the energy levels of a dog on constant caffeine). Keiko and the poodle usually get on well, but she recently has been getting more aggressive with her and has attacked her twice. Keiko hasn't been going to for as many walks as we used too and hasn't had as much attention as the dogs are not allowed inside. I think this is why she has been aggressive (The poodle can also get on her nerves). Just wondering if anyone has had a similar issue and if they have any advice? I'm worried Keiko will really hurt the poodle (she put 2 puncture wounds in her today) and we are worried that she may bite our baby (a new baby in the family also). Help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Firstly dog aggression and human aggression and 2 separate things. You have changed her whole life, putting her outside, plus you have added another female dog to the mix.Females don't back down like the boys do, and it will get worse, i hope someone here can give you better advice, but in the mean time keep them apart, or you could end up with one less dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I'd separate them to begin with. Is there a reason your shiba isn't getting as much exercise as before? How much longer do you think you will be living with the in laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) I agree - you have to separate the poodle from the others. You've relegated them all to outside dogs? This can lead to problems as training and socialisation are life time tasks. If you stop doing these - the dogs can start behaving "untrained" and fending for themselves since you're not putting in any boundaries and making it clear what is and isn't acceptable eg poodle harassing the big dog and the big dog putting puncture marks in the poodle. you've definitely added a factor in this list. https://positively.com/articles/fatal-dog-bites-share-common-factors/ Edited August 28, 2015 by Mrs Rusty Bucket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannibalgoldfish Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Shibas can be narky with other dogs, particularly dogs the same sex. They can be fine with some dogs and then just take a disliking to others. But in this case, I'd say it's more likely the changes she has been through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Definitely agree to it being the changes she has just been through. I would be upset too. By the sounds of it, she is starting to lose her patience with the poodle and it's becoming aggression as no one is listening or watching for her boundaries. She is telling the poodle she had enough. She needs somewhere to escape when she is over the dog. Having a hyper dog bouncing on top of you constantly would upset even the calmest of dogs eventually. You need to limit their together and the poodle sounds like it needs training. How does your other dog cope with the poodle? Start paying your dog more attention and help her adjust to her new life if you are not in a postion to change it at the moment. Start giving her a positive way to adjust. Edited August 28, 2015 by Ci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 2 is company 3 is a crowd. Your Shiba is giving you the warnings signs so you need to change the routine . Your Shiba may enjoy a short play session but for the rest of the time separating is the safest option her not only for the Poodle but your dog . Your dog shouldn't hurt your baby if your supervising correctly. I guess the biggest issue will be what the plans are for the new house arrangements whether the Shiba will still be part of the household or not ,its unfortunate that the dogs are going through such major changes that also include a baby . Your shiba needs some normality back in its life a short walk is better than no walk after all life is boring sitting outside & no humans come to visit or pay attention . Taking baby for a walk in the stroller with Keiko will help her see the new human whilst onleash . I wouldn't say your dog is being aggressive because if it truly wanted to hurt the Poodle it could have ,it has shown great restraint by the sounds of it but no one is reading the signs or adjusting the arrangements ,you have had the warning signs now everyone needs to give the dogs the time they need. I gather the Poodle doesn't go for walks either ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjelkier Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I wouldnt say the shiba is aggressive. I'd say she's had enough of the poodles s**t and is telling her to back off. Your dogs have been through a lot of changes in a short time, I'm not surprised this has happened. Can the dogs not come inside and get the walks they used too? And seperate the shiba and the poodle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Separate the dogs before a disaster happens, puncture wounds are a warning - things can get a whole lot worse from this point. I imagine there are 4 adults in the house?? Surely, surely someone can find time to do a walk? It's not hard. I live on my own, have a few dogs, work full time, run the house and yard - I'm not superwoman but unless I'm sick, the dogs get a daily walk - I go twice because I have very elderly dogs and a younger dog who needs more exercise. The poor dogs' world has been turned upside down. I'm not sure about a Shiba but poodles and other small dogs should be inside. All dogs should be part of family life rather than living like plants in a backyard with no walks and probably little interaction. Why have them at all? Edited August 28, 2015 by Her Majesty Dogmad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I also work with someone who had a disabled daughter who is now 5 yrs old. They have a large active dog. Some parents would have dumped the dog, considering the workload the disabled child gives them but no, they've made it work. The dog is indoors, part of the family and my colleague gets up at 5am every day religiously to do an hour's walk. My hat is off to her and her husband for doing their best for the whole family, it couldn't be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannibalgoldfish Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I'm not sure about a Shiba but poodles and other small dogs should be inside. Inside and out. Not one or the other.... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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