Dame Aussie Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Just wondering but do you think overweight people tend to have overweight dogs? no I don't think so either. Normally it's just your average caring owners who just can't stop feeding the sad eyes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Edited July 15, 2015 by sarsaparilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Maybe you are right this dog appears to be a normal weight although the owner is obviously quite ill Edited July 15, 2015 by sarsaparilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemmy Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 No, I'm overweight but my dog isn't. She's been referred to as a miniature GSD though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) I could do with losing a few kg and my dogs are both perfect weight. Actually one is like a gutted herring but you can't put weight on her :laugh: Edited July 15, 2015 by Dame Aussie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 Actually my dogs are not overweight. I weigh them regularly. But sometimes I wish I was a dog and then someone would take charge of my intake because I need to lose a few kilos :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I.don't think you can compare the two. Easier to.monitor your dogs diet than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agility Dogs Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I.don't think you can compare the two. Easier to.monitor your dogs diet than your own. I think it's easier to show 'self' control for our dogs than it is for ourselves. It wasn't until the point that I looked in the mirror and went, 'Dude, really.....' that I found it easy to control my own diet. I really hate seeing over weight dogs - no matter what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) But important to note that the rate of fatties is lower than in the general dog population. So more than 75% of the general dog population is fat? They found that 24 per cent were overweight based on photos I think? I'd find it believable that more than 24 per cent of the pet population is overweight. And as someone else has mentioned some breeds have more issues than others. Edited July 15, 2015 by SkySoaringMagpie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 maybe it's the winter coats sigh. But you can't really tell just from a photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I am astounded that this call was made without those making the call actually seeing the dogs, or laying hands on them, or knowing anything about the standard Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBreedBoy Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 You take get a pretty good assessment from a side on photo in all but long haired breeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 I think it is important not to rely only on appearance. I wonder how many dog owners actually know how much their dogs weigh and what they should weigh to be within the standard. The same with height. Some breeds seem to be getting taller (or smaller). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Comparatively heres a the AVAs statement on pet obesity with a few stats http://www.ava.com.au/news/media-centre/hot-topics Overall, obesity is a big problem in dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) I think it is important not to rely only on appearance. I wonder how many dog owners actually know how much their dogs weigh and what they should weigh to be within the standard. The same with height. Some breeds seem to be getting taller (or smaller). Appearance and hands on is way more important than weight in my opinion and I encourage people to use a Body Condition Score to assess their dogs. I only weigh mine for the purpose of medication. ETA: Yes, pet obesity is a considerable welfare issue in pet dogs and cats. Edited July 16, 2015 by The Spotted Devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) I think it is important not to rely only on appearance. I wonder how many dog owners actually know how much their dogs weigh and what they should weigh to be within the standard. The same with height. Some breeds seem to be getting taller (or smaller). Appearance and hands on is way more important than weight in my opinion and I encourage people to use a Body Condition Score to assess their dogs. I only weigh mine for the purpose of medication. ETA: Yes, pet obesity is a considerable welfare issue in pet dogs and cats. Yep, I know plenty of people that think their dogs weight is fine because it's within those vet chart breed weight guidelines (my breed isn't even on them!), but their dogs Body Condition Score is obviously overweight. It's like human BMI charts too, you can have a dog that is nice and muscular, it can weight off the charts, but be in perfect condition. Edited July 16, 2015 by LisaCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 So why have breed standards then? Weighing a dog is an objective measurement. Labradors are supposed to weigh 30kg. I have seen a lot heavier than that. https://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/information/labrador-retriever.asp pugs between 6 and 8, and bassets 26-33 which means they can be bigger than a lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 So why have breed standards then? Weighing a dog is an objective measurement. Labradors are supposed to weigh 30kg. I have seen a lot heavier than that. https://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/information/labrador-retriever.asp pugs between 6 and 8, and bassets 26-33 which means they can be bigger than a lab. 30kg is so specific! I guess for me, bottom line is muscle and fat are composed very differently, and one 30kg dog can be vastly different from another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) So why have breed standards then? Weighing a dog is an objective measurement. Labradors are supposed to weigh 30kg. I have seen a lot heavier than that. https://www.dogzonli...r-retriever.asp pugs between 6 and 8, and bassets 26-33 which means they can be bigger than a lab. I've had a look and the ANKC Lab standard doesn't actually have a weight outline? The AKC standard says the following: "dogs 65 to 80 pounds; bitches 55 to 70 pounds." which in kilos would be dogs 29.6- 36.3kg, bitches 24.9 - 31.8kg Edited July 16, 2015 by LisaCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) So why have breed standards then? Weighing a dog is an objective measurement. Labradors are supposed to weigh 30kg. I have seen a lot heavier than that. https://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/information/labrador-retriever.asp pugs between 6 and 8, and bassets 26-33 which means they can be bigger than a lab. A standard might be ideal but that doesn't account for the build or fitness of the individual dog. Weighing per se is objective but we know it doesn't translate well to "ideal body condition." Just like the amount of food required to maintain an ideal body condition score will depend on the quality of the food, the activity of the dog, the health of the dog and the metabolism of the individual dog. Edited July 16, 2015 by The Spotted Devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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