BarbedWire Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 I can 100% see why people give their dogs away when a baby comes into their lives. I can't... It was never a consideration when my daughter was born. If you get a dog you are responsible for its life for the next 12-15 years. If you think there is a slight chance in that time that you will have a baby and can't have them live under the same roof then DONT GET THE DOG. It is all about responsibility and few people take the responsibility of dog ownership seriously. I totally agree and one of the first questions I ask my puppy people is, are you planning to have children and if you are how do you plan to deal with a puppy and a baby? There is no way in hell I will sell one of my puppies to someone who believes a dog is disposable. Bjelkier, not sure who you are totally agreeing with but that is just my Internet illiteracy, but I totally agree with Yonjuro. Sometimes you have to make a few adjustments but DOGS ARE FOREVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 I can 100% see why people give their dogs away when a baby comes into their lives. I can't... It was never a consideration when my daughter was born. If you get a dog you are responsible for its life for the next 12-15 years. If you think there is a slight chance in that time that you will have a baby and can't have them live under the same roof then DONT GET THE DOG. It is all about responsibility and few people take the responsibility of dog ownership seriously. Wow. How judgmental. I have a dog with serious issues (she is an ex puppy farm dog). I don't plan on having a baby but if I did, Lucy would go to heaven. And before you judge me know that she has had professional and medical help and still has issues. I'm 99% sure that the professional we see who knows both Lucy and I well would agree with that decision if it ever came down to it. It is all fine and well to say that management will take care of things but, as one very highly respected behaviourist on this forum told me, you can NEVER, ever rely on management alone to keep a dog and child safe. One day you will make a mistake. One day, after a 2am feed when you haven't slept for 48 hours and you have a raging headache and you're suffering from PND you might forget to close the gate/door to the baby's room. If you have a dog with prey drive, territorial or aggression issues your child may pay for that with their life. Management is something that is useful for a well balanced, well socialised, well bred dog. It isn't something that takes care of a dog with issues. But hey, much easier to throw rocks from the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 That is a whole other point, Megan. A good one too. What about dogs who do not cope with babies? There is always the exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonwoman Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 My parents were very very careful about cats and cots. I think our family cat had several "flying lessons" before she figured out baby cot was completely out of bounds. My dad worked in hospital emergency so I guess he'd seen a few cases of baby suffocated by cat. I don't remember the family dog ever being in the same room as the cot or in our bedrooms when we were little. Our family cot was very high sided (stuff the ergonomics for mum), I don't think a Malamute would have been able to reach over the top and put its head in - not like the bassinet in the picture Raineth posted. Tho some dogs and most cats would still be able to jump in. I think its main hazard was trapping baby fingers tho that did not happen to any of us. Think it is established now that at least some of those baby suffocations were not the family cat but a family member, sadly it happens..............many years ago a dog was alleged to have killed a baby in Melbourne, it was kept quiet but was actually determined the mother had done it, poor soul...............and having had my share of inconsolable babies (who all survived and so did I), I realised how easy it would be for a very stressed or disturbed parent to do something rash!!! I am not talking about low-life baby bashers here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjelkier Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) I think there is a huge difference between people who have genuine issues with dogs that cant deal with children or have difficult/unhealthy babies, who then carefully rehome their pet and those who simply refuse to see the reality of the situation and the poor dog gets tossed outside to rot or thrown away. I dont judge the first group but I sure as hell judge the second lot. Edited June 24, 2015 by Bjelkier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) . Edited June 24, 2015 by Weasels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 In the middle of PND I would have happily have given my son up. I'm very dog savvy,and always said I would do anything for my pets, but nothing can mess your life up like a nice case of PND and a baby who doesn't sleep. It's one of those things that until you have been there you really can't understand (trust me, I didn't understand either till I had a child) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yonjuro Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 I think there is a huge difference between people who have genuine issues with dogs that cant deal with children or have difficult/unhealthy babies, who then carefully rehome their pet and those who simply refuse to see the reality of the situation and the poor dog gets tossed outside to rot or thrown away. I dont judge the first group but I sure as hell judge the second lot. Yes, ^ that pretty well sums up my views as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donatella Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 I can 100% see why people give their dogs away when a baby comes into their lives. I can't... It was never a consideration when my daughter was born. If you get a dog you are responsible for its life for the next 12-15 years. If you think there is a slight chance in that time that you will have a baby and can't have them live under the same roof then DONT GET THE DOG. It is all about responsibility and few people take the responsibility of dog ownership seriously. Yep I agree and we wouldn't have these issues with over flowing pounds if we didn't live in such a throw away society. Better get rid of the dog we have something else shiney to play with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 I think there is a huge difference between people who have genuine issues with dogs that cant deal with children or have difficult/unhealthy babies, who then carefully rehome their pet and those who simply refuse to see the reality of the situation and the poor dog gets tossed outside to rot or thrown away. I dont judge the first group but I sure as hell judge the second lot. Yes, ^ that pretty well sums up my views as well. Mine too. I have no issue with people rehoming pets responsibly in such unexpected and difficult situations. I do have an issue with having a baby = get rid of the pets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 There is rehoming with careful consideration to the right home for the dog then there is getting rid of the dog to the first person who shows up and then it's not your problem. If there was a case of a dog who had been a really big aprt of a person's life but had known issues especially with children I would prefer that dog be rehomed with due consideration or euthed. There is no point holding onto the dog just because and it having it's life turned upside down and barely interacting with it's family once a baby is there. When I ahd kids I had dogs who did spend a vast majority of their time outside so whilst I did chang things to reduce lengths or walks and did them at irregular times it wasn't as much as a change for them. And yes dogs can live lostly outside and still have very enriched full lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paws22 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 The parents are entirely responsible. I understand mistakes happen, but this is just inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paws22 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) I can 100% see why people give their dogs away when a baby comes into their lives. I can't... It was never a consideration when my daughter was born. If you get a dog you are responsible for its life for the next 12-15 years. If you think there is a slight chance in that time that you will have a baby and can't have them live under the same roof then DONT GET THE DOG. It is all about responsibility and few people take the responsibility of dog ownership seriously. I agree. A dog is a committment. I'm in my early twenties and, having got my first pup a few months ago, I know that there is no way I could give my dog up if I ever start a family. Getting a dog is a choice. A dog isn't something you can just get rid of when it isn't convenient to have the dog anymore. Edited June 27, 2015 by Paws22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paws22 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Sadly I know one work colleague is now looking to rehome her 6mo Husky (undesexed male) because she is having a baby in six weeks and didn't know her snow dog fluffy puppy could attack the baby. She might see reason but her whole family including hubby says the puppy has to go That's just silly Sick is more like it. How selfish can a person be? Perhaps your colleague should have done her research into the breed instead of just deciding on the spur of the moment she felt like buying a "fluffy puppy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascalmyshadow Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Anyone that has never had kids should not be commenting about rehoming a dog once they come along. While I agree a dog should be for life and they are not throw away items I have seen many dogs that I've groomed over the years seriously neglected once children came along and would have been much better off in another home. I personally don't understand it since I've had three kids (the last two were c-sections and I had PND) my dogs were my saviours, however I am an extreemly high energy person so I was able to cope, I know many people where the dogs would have been too much especially since they were all poodles and needed a lot of grooming. I was however put in a position where my heart boy was PTS because he was too much of a risk to my kids and he couldn't be rehomed, broke my heart and still does, in all honesty I wish life was easier and I never had to make that choice, for a very long time it made me regret having kids. Unless you've been there don't jump and judge others until you know the full story, unless of course a dog is being neglected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemmy Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Just my 2c, I think everyone understands if you try and manage kids and dogs but can't for whatever reason. But just saying "whoops I'm pregnant, better get rid of the dog" shows lack of foresight and planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Just my 2c, I think everyone understands if you try and manage kids and dogs but can't for whatever reason. But just saying "whoops I'm pregnant, better get rid of the dog" shows lack of foresight and planning. Yes exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjelkier Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Just my 2c, I think everyone understands if you try and manage kids and dogs but can't for whatever reason. But just saying "whoops I'm pregnant, better get rid of the dog" shows lack of foresight and planning. Yes exactly Yep, totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Anyone that has never had kids should not be commenting about rehoming a dog once they come along. How insulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascalmyshadow Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) If you've never been in the situation you have no right to judge others! If someone decides to rehome a dog because they are pregnant the dog is likely to be better off anyway, people like that are the ones that neglect their dogs needs from day one. Edited June 27, 2015 by Rascalmyshadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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