Sambiz Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Hey guys, this is my first post to the forums, hopefully not my last. I am about to adopt a rescue pet that has been called a mixed breed. I am all for adopting something that's not purebred but would like to get a head start on research in terms of training. I know that it's quite clear cut across the breeds but have read a lot about the mental aspect of training kelpies, the exercise and physical stimulation won't be much of a problem. I just need to know if the dog is actually a kelpie x or something else. The ears led me to my assumption and looking at other x kelpies. Any thoughts on the breed would be much appreciated. My partner is worried she has some pit bull or staffy in her, which I don't mind but would like to hear anyone's thoughts, or even from anyone who has some experience with an unknown mixed breed. Cheers! Here she is https://www.petrescue.com.au/listings/374322 Sb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 A real mix there. Maybe some Kelpie, maybe some Stafford, who knows. I don't think breed is important in regards to training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Welcome :) Mya is a real mix :) hard to judge at this age ... and don't rely on ears!! They can go up & down like a yo yo in youngsters ;) re: training - it's not really breed-specific ..ALL breeds/dogs need to have training/mental and physical exercise , be housetrained , etc. ALL breeds respond to praise , need lots of practice , and consistency in the way they are taught :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I doubt there is any SBT in that puppy, there is not a breed hallmark to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdie Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 re: training - it's not really breed-specific ..ALL breeds/dogs need to have training/mental and physical exercise , be housetrained , etc. ALL breeds respond to praise , need lots of practice , and consistency in the way they are taught :) What a sweet pup;can only guess at what mix of breeds she is.She does look like a pup i saw once in a shelter that was said to be a German Shepherd x Staffordshire Terrier. If you adopt her please post more pictures of her; I can't get enough puppy pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuralPug Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Don't panic about identifying breed traits for help with training styles. With the genetic lottery of a mix, the ancestors they may resemble physically are not necessarily the same ancestors whose temperament potential they have inherited. Even within breeds, there is variety - I have known many cases where one littermate was "soft" and would quiver at a loud voice when the other practically needed to be dragged away from their naughtiness LOL. You will be training each other as you go along. Be consistent, make your rules clear and easy to understand and watch for evidence of boredom in the adolescent phase. Good luck with your new puppy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 It's a heinze variety, could have anything in her, no way to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Why do they put up such crappy photo's that don't allow you to see the dog for what it is , I agree training is not breed based ,appreciating what type of dog you are getting & whether you can cater for its needs is a bigger issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I can't see any stafford in the pup at all. Just accept her for what she is a cute mixed breed - have fun with your new pup and training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 It reminds me of a pup that I had many years ago which was a Rottie x Blue Heeler. :) I can see Heeler in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I see no Stafford , or any bull breed bits in that dog whatsoever either. more likely working breed mixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stressmagnet Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) I don't see staffy either. More likely cattle x kelpie or gsd. I reckon as long as you give her brain AND exercise work - she'll be a great pup. Ps. Staffies and pitties give the BEST CUDDLES EVER so if she does have some of that in her - hooray!!! Don't get the prejudice against these breeds put you off - it's bullshit. ETA: one of the best dogs we ever had was a gsd x staffy. All the brains and the cuddles. Edited June 17, 2015 by Stressmagnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clover Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 It reminds me of a pup that I had many years ago which was a Rottie x Blue Heeler. :) I can see Heeler in it. Sheena do you have a photo of your Rottie x? My old girl was Rottie x ACD as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) It reminds me of a pup that I had many years ago which was a Rottie x Blue Heeler. :) I can see Heeler in it. Sheena do you have a photo of your Rottie x? My old girl was Rottie x ACD as well. Here you go...it was a long long time ago He was a real character & the kids loved him to bits. Unfortunately he went missing one day & I suspect a neighbour may have shot him mistaking him for a dingo Edited June 17, 2015 by sheena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambiz Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 Haha great shot on the bike. Thanks for responding everyone, going to meet her this weekend and will go from there. No doubt I'll be very active in the forums, especially with the great support ! She is also seeing the vet next week so maybe they will have some more idea of her mix! Will be interesting to know regardless of the result. Sb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Haha great shot on the bike. Thanks for responding everyone, going to meet her this weekend and will go from there. No doubt I'll be very active in the forums, especially with the great support ! She is also seeing the vet next week so maybe they will have some more idea of her mix! Will be interesting to know regardless of the result. Sb If you really wanted to find out, I am pretty sure you can get a DNA test done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 There's been lots of studies that show that visual breed ID of mixed breeds is completely unreliable. The rescue is doing the right thing by listing her as simply 'mixed breed'. Cross breed dogs cease to become members of any of the breeds behind them, and all dogs are individuals, so if you adopt her just focus on her as an individual and you will be setting yourself up for a good start :) Check out this great infographic on the topic: https://animalfarmfoundation.wordpress.com/2013/10/09/a-closer-look-at-all-dogs-are-individuals-infographic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Purebred dogs were developed over generations to increasethe predictability of attributes such as size, coat type and temperament. They were developed generally to perform a function and traits such as bite thresholds, bite inhibition, prey drive,people focus, biddability, aggression to other dogs or to people were bred in or out of the dogs to increase their suitability for that function. When you mix disparate breeds of dogs, all that predictability goes out the window. So, when you go to look at a mixed breed pup, you're taking a chance on all of those characteristics. So, when you see that pup, you probably want to get a feel for how interested and responsive to you it is, what sort of bite inhibition it has and how it reacts to strange dogs and people. Whilst these traits can be shaped to some degree by socialisation and training, some behaviour is hardwired. Of course, in an adult mixed breed what you see is what you get. There are some pretty damn challenging breed mixes around and one of them that I've seen is husky mixes. High prey drive, great endurance and pack rather than people focus is fabulous in a sled dog. How it goes in apet can be another matter. Throw in some protectivenes if a guarding breed is added and you may end up with a pretty challenging dog. Your pup looks like such a mix to me. You really want to know how interested he or she is in people, treats (helpful for training) and how responsive she is toyou. If you feel that she's more interested in you than checking out everything else, that's great. If not, then training will be more challenging. All things to consider beyond simply what breed or breeds are in her mix. Good luck! Edited June 19, 2015 by Haredown Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambiz Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Hey guys I went and met Mya today. It went very well. We met the foster mum at a park. She was very playful with us, and also with her brother. Once she had settled down a bit she was straight into the lap for a quick snooze. The current foster mum has also started teaching her how to sit and lie down, which she also does very well. I am still unsure of her breed but her paws aren't massive. Her hair is quite short, sort of like a smooth Jack Russell so was thinking perhaps some fox terrier in her or something. Anyway, looking forward to getting her this week. No doubt I'll be very active in here. Thanks again for the support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denali Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Hey guys I went and met Mya today. It went very well. We met the foster mum at a park. She was very playful with us, and also with her brother. Once she had settled down a bit she was straight into the lap for a quick snooze. The current foster mum has also started teaching her how to sit and lie down, which she also does very well. I am still unsure of her breed but her paws aren't massive. Her hair is quite short, sort of like a smooth Jack Russell so was thinking perhaps some fox terrier in her or something. Anyway, looking forward to getting her this week. No doubt I'll be very active in here. Thanks again for the support. Great to hear I look forward to more photos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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