tdierikx Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Does she start drooling even before you start moving? I had one that used to do that, so I kinda desensitised her by opening the car door, letting her in it, and just sitting there for a few minutes. We progressed to then having the car running but not moving for a few minutes, then up to backing down the drive and back again. Short trips up and down the road or around the block, etc... built it up to a point where I could drive for nearly an hour before she vommed... lol! T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 ???????????????????????????????? Poor Bunny, we went out again tonight and yes, drool as soon as she got into the crate. I have tried putting her on the back seat. I've tried crate on the back seat and in the boot. Tonight she threw up the tablet and the ginger biscuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchnauzerMax Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 The only way I can avert the voms with Remy is to turn the fan / air conditioning on and aim the vents at his face. It helps that he is a big boy and while strapped in, wiggles his way between the front seats to get a direct 'hit'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Is he scared, though? I think this is fear with Bunny. She now associates the crate with fear, I think because she was drooling in the crate when we were at training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchnauzerMax Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 No, not scared. Just obviously feeling unwell from the car movement. He generally associates the car with good things - visiting people and new things to see and explore. The large number of roundabouts in the inner city doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 No, roundabouts don't help at all. I think it's chicken and egg with Bunny.. She got sick so she got scared and now she gets scared so she gets sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roova Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Is she still in a crate at home (not just in the car)? Can you play some fun crate games with her to change the association? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Some of my vommy fosters used to do a little better if I placed the crate right in the middle of the back seat - facing so they can see out the front windscreen from the crate door mesh. If it is fear, you are going to have to try desensitisation exercises like I outlined in a previous post... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Roova, yes, but it's a different crate. Her home crates (plural) are 36" wire crates but the travel crate is a PP40. I couldn't get a 36" crate in and have two dogs in the car. I'm planning to get a Blackhound variocage but until I resolve what's scaring her there's no point. Today I just sat in the boot with her with the door open, no crate. She was very scared, very flat tail, and she drooled a bit. She ate the treats I gave her but she's very tired now because she gets so stressed. I was all high pitched and happy and loose lead, talking to her the whole time. It didn't help that Roo was howling and barking in the yard about being left out. He also does the same when they're in the car. If I had a front fence I could leave the car open and just let her go in when she felt like it. Edited August 13, 2015 by Sheridan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justrace Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 My girl had terrible car sickness, hated the car (picture each leg going different directions to stop me from her from getting in) I had to gradually build up the time spent in the car. It did take about 10 months before she decided the car was fun and we haven't had vomit for the longest time. But I haven't taken her on any long trips (over 40 minutes). Sounds like you're taking things slowly, fingers crossed it wont be long and she'll be running to the car for a ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Could you try what you did today and include Roo in the exercise - as he doesn't seem to have issues with the car and will act his normal goofy self during the exercise. It may distract her from her fear issues to have him showing no fear - and maybe even a small play rumble between them in the back area... a tug toy or something as a distraction for her? T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 Worth a shot. I'll try it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I would definitely keep going with treats in the stationary car, and then only very short car rides to somewhere really fun. Even just drive a few houses down, get out and play a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 More treats in the stationary car today after a short walk and though the tail was flat there was only a little bit of salivation. I did spray some Adaptil in the back around 15 minutes beforehand. Don't know if it helped. Roo was inside so he wasn't as loud. Tomorrow I'll put them both in and see if she's the same. I'll also get some Rescue Remedy and there's a product called Calm which has been recommended. Would a thundershirt help at all, do you think? Roo and I ran up and down the walkway pretending we were at a dog show. He was mostly loose lead, which was great, and he even did a stand (as opposed to his natural sit) for me. I managed to stack him (badly) for about 10 seconds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casima Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I had a foster puppy once who got intensly carsick, drool and then shortly after projectile liquid out both ends after only a very short time in the car. So to fix this I first fed him his dinner near the car with the boot open, then progressed to dinner every night in the car parked, we just sat in the back and he ate, then back out again as soon as he was done. Once he was ok with that I would turn the car on and let him eat with the engine running. Then onto engine running with doors closed. After that I would put him in, drive a few meters then give him his dinner while the engine was still going. Next I would drive to the end of the street and back before feeding. Once he could happily go around the block I would start taking him on other short trips during the day to very fun places where we go for a walk. I made sure to never take him on any long trips that would make him sick, always keep him within comfort levels. About that time is when he found his new home but he was making good progress with being comfortable in the car and wanted to get in the car instead of avoiding it by then. I hope she gets over this soon for you, it is a yuk situation for you both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Chances are its the crate . Plus the PP40 would be a fairly tight fit for the age of your pup now .Plastic crates are very enclosed compared to the wire. Keep in mind your pup may not show lose lead in the ring,all my show pups are taught with the lead on top of there head at first & once shown a few times & there have adapted well to all the distractions we start to move the lead to a preferred position . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 Wouldn't a PP40 lessen the chance of movement? Got a show lead on the weekend. Will see how the ratbag goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 Turns out the show lead wasn't the right sort. Trying a chain. Had a first go at clipping Roo's dew claws given how flighty bitey he is and goodness me, he just sat there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Good boy Roo!!! T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 Oh Bunny girl. Went to training this morning. She drooled all the way there. She wasn't interested in the treats, not interested in me, very keen on roo poo until I picked some up and offered her some, interested then not in the other dogs. The one time I got her to behave, one of the other trainees brought her reactive dog into our space without realising. The trainer suggested bringing a toy but they don't allow ones with squeakers as they're too distracting for other dogs. I also tried a squeaky toy when we went to Pet Barn after and it didn't hold her interest. What to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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