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[Pjrt]

Although I am a long time member of Dogs NSW, I am not a breeder, but I thought DogsNSW registered breeders are not permitted to sell to pet shops??? Or did I get that wrong?

There are two pet shops at Erina Fair, which is one of the largest malls on the Central coast NSW. Both sell puppies. But apparently it's ok because 'they don't buy from pup farms, they buy from breeders', sez my local RSPCA.

They sell cross bred dogs for upwards of $1200. I enquired (just out of curiosity) about a cocker/cavalier pup and was told that it was a sought after cross and was $1600.

That's more than I paid for Ernie and his breeding is impeccable.

I do not know how this still goes on. I despair at the stupidity of people who buy from these shops - both do a roaring trade in crosses of all descriptions.

I will admit: they had a purebred black Labrador there two weeks ago and I swore I would buy it before I watched it grow up behind glass in a 1 metre square enclosure but it's disappeared. I guess I'm part of the problem.

Just ban the sale of dogs in pet stores. It's not hard - other countries have done it.

The problem here is the fact that the pet shops source their puppies from large scale commercial dog breeders (ie. Puppy farms)who hold full registration and licensing from their local council/shire/government etc. so when the buyer asks, the pet shop can legitimately say the puppy came from a 'registered breeder'. This is not a lie because yes, the puppy farm holds all the required registrations, and yes, they are breeders. This is the way the pet stores and registered puppy farms can honestly say they source their pups from registered breeders. The push for new laws to ban puppy farms, has actually allowed wholesale commercial puppy breeders to set up lovely clean factories and breed like billyo. The pet shops aren't lying, they are just not talking about the type of ANKC registered breeders that people on this forum are mostly talking about.

[Stressmagnet]

Or they buy from BYB so they can say they came from a 'family home'. Makes me sick. One had an American Bulldog pup last weekend in s crate. A CRATE.

I know it's bad, but it took all my strength not to buy the pup just so I didn't have the memory of its mournful eyes looking at me as it struggled to turn around. As it was, my girls dragged me out of there when I started to have a full scale rant about the dog to the staff.

Then I cried in the car on the way home. The only consolation I had was that if I HAD bought the poor girl, I'd have been putting money in that stores coffers. Still, if she DOES get snapped up - I can bet the type of person who will buy her -- one with ZERO clue on bullies and how to handle them, and it will end up a backyard dog, because 'it pulls' and 'doesn't like other dogs'.

Ps. I'm not the perfect dog owner, I know that. I skip walks on the weekends and Ernie digs so I know he gets bored if I leave him outside too long. But at least I TRY to educate myself on his needs and adjust accordingly.

[Christina]

The only consolation I had was that if I HAD bought the poor girl, I'd have been putting money in that stores coffers.

It never fails to astound me that people don't think about the above.

Why would you want to hand over money to people who have the dogs in horrible conditions. Its not rescuing it it is only encouraging them to do it more.

When it is that bad they should be leaving without the dog or puppy & reporting them.

Edited May 5, 2015 by Christina

[Pjrt]

The other thing a lot of people can't quite get their head around is that as I believe it, there is nothing to stop ANKC registered breeders breeding non pedigree and cross breed dogs. Just as long as they do not use ANKC registered stock to do it, I don't thing they are breaching the ANKC code.

but then if the ANKC registered breeder breeds non pedigree or cross bred dogs using allegedly non ANKC registered stock, can they then sell those pups to pet shops without breaching the ANKC code?

Don't be thinking that there are not ANKC registered breeders out there breeding non pedigree and cross bred dogs under the radar!

[Stressmagnet]

Just to add - I DID report the store. RSPCA were supremely uninterested.

[Sabbath]

I also love people that think they 'rescued' a dog when they bought it at a pet shop. A very commonly misused word.

[Holmesy]

Wow.. just wow..

I really hope that there is a special place in hell for people like this "breeder"

Maybe i'm soft, but I can't even begin to fathom the lack of empathy, conscience, and just common decency that you would need to be so wantonly cruel.. The fact that she was allowed to continue operating after being charged, and did just that, beggars belief.

If this sick person was punished to the maximum available by the judge, then the laws need to be changed. This person shouldn't even be allowed to own a goldfish, nevermind continue her puppy mill. The fine would be paid for in 1 or 2 litters.. I highly doubt that she would even be bothered by that fine considering the mass production of puppies going on at that place.. wouldn't even surprise me if she took into account possible fines when budgeting.

Absolutely makes my blood boil.

[mita]

[i find it hard to understand how authorities can't look at the end goal - healthy, well adjusted and cared for animals and[i] work back from that scenario. [/i]To get healthy dogs you need to care about genetics and who is breeding with who. To get a well socialised dog you need to ensure it stays with its mother to learn doggy things and you need to ensure it is exposed to sights and sounds and smells and other well adjusted animals of varying breeds. To get a well cared for animal you need an owner who understands the breed they have purchased and who has the funds and interest to keep it in good health and contained on their property. Puppy farms and impulse purchasing will guarantee you none of those things. It seems like it is a problem the government doesn't want to fix.

Totally agree, LG. For most consumer products, quality control is required in the 'preparation' ... directed towards a quality outcome. But authorities have a blind spot when it comes to puppies & dogs for the public market.

All they have to do is look at how the military dogs are bred, raised and socialised. All the factors you've raised above are followed... before the dog gets up to its actual military training.

[aussielover]

There was a segment on 7 news about puppy farming. There was a story about a 15 year old girl who got a chi pup from the petstore which had to be put to sleep 9 days later. Sad, but who sells a puppy to a 15 year old girl. Additionally it sounded like the puppy got euthanized due to lack of funds for treatment. Another puppy with the same symptoms survived but required intensive care and a huge vet Bill. Hopefully their stories will put people off buying from pet shops though.

RSPCA were only interested in a crack down if they received additional funding

Isn't their job that they already receive gov funding for to deal with animal welfare issues?

I used to be an rspca supporter but am becoming increasingly disillusioned with many parts of the organisation.

[Dame Aussie]

RSPCA are shite. That is all.

[Lhok]

They will probably get the funding then cry that the laws prevent them from doing the job so they don't have to do anything really but are still able to use the funding to grow their profit margins.

--Lhok

[Katdogs]

Wow the Herald is really pushing this.

From last weekend, the $34,000 puppyfarm cavoodle.

And now today, Parliamentary Inquiry!