Pjrt Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Hi I am hoping a vet or other knowledgeable member can help me track down the name of a rare bone tumor that one of my grooming clients has been diagnosed with. It is some sort of chrondosarcoma? The location of the tumor is in the skull right between the eyes (on a brachycephalic) and apparently the only other place they can occur is the jaw bone, and if the metastasise ( not sure if that's the right term but you know, if they spread) they usually go to the liver? I have seen the name, but dr.google hasn't helped. If I see it again I will know it. It is two word, the first two or three syllables, the second, somethingorotherchrondosomthingorother! Any ideas. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchnauzerMax Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Just guessing (with the help of dr google) Mesenchymal chondrosarcoma ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjrt Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Just guessing (with the help of dr google) Mesenchymal chondrosarcoma ? No that is not it. But a huge thanks for your efforts ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappie Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Is it something like a multilobular osteochondrosarcoma? Most of the long names tend to describe either the locatiion or the tissues involved and there can be various terms to describe one thing. Edited April 8, 2015 by Rappie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightstar123 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Multilobular osteochondrosarcoma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightstar123 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Sorry didn't refresh and see earlier post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Can't help but very sad to hear this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjrt Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Yes I'm pretty sure that's it! Thanks guys. I see her for a bath again an about 3 weeks so I will clarify it then. It's a 10.5 yrs old ShihTzu type dog. I noticed the slight bump between her eyes several months back and the owner concurred she thought it felt different, and went to the vet. Physical examination at the vet just said its normal. The dog is very brachycephalic and was kind of hard to tell, although both myself and the owner thought there was a slight change there. Anyway, next few times I see the dog every six or eight weeks or so, it was hard to tell if it had changed more.....until last visit seven weeks ago I was immediately alarmed by the change and urged the owner to revisit the vet. Scans, X-rays, blood tests, specialists etc and they got the diagnosis. Today it was seven weeks since I had seen her and it had grown rapidly. There isn't really anything that can be done for the dog, realistically. She has pain medication, and still looks well and active. The vet said they'd like to say she might be around in a years time, but they're not really willing to speculate. It is one of the weirdest things I have seen/felt on a dog in almost 30 yrs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboo Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 This sounds the same as the cancer my Tibetan spaniel x Loki had.An attempt was made to surgically remove the lump but it was not possible. None of the vets had encountered this form previously due to its rarity. We chose palliative care only for Loki, and he stunned everyone by living a few more years. He began to have seizures due to the pressure on his brain, but these were quickly and effectively prevented with nothing more than metacam for around two years. His head became grossly mishapen as the bony lump grew,but Lokis quality of life remained good. I would estimate the lump was around 5cm thick at his death. He was euthanized when his back legs became weak and uncoordinated. Please let your client know that if they are lucky their dog too might live happily much longer than expected and to not rush to euthanasia if the dog becomes peculiar looking as the lump grows. I found it quite confronting as Lokis head and face became distorted, as did others who saw him, but neither the vets or I could see anything that suggested he wasn't enjoying life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbesotted Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 strange..but this week another friend posted about her dog who has similar... and the story corroborates what has b een said about Loki... Helen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjrt Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Thanks for your input bamboo, and helen I saw her again today and yes, it is definitely MLO multilobular osteochondrosarcoma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjrt Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 I groomed this lovely little poppet again last week. Her tumor has grown quite a bit in the 8 weeks since I saw her last. Her mum and I had a teary discussion about her future. It's not going to end well, nothing more than pain relief can really be done now. Her mum is facing having to make a decision before her darling dog slides too far I took some pictures of her tumor. It's now about golf ball size and sits squarely between her eyes and juts up from the natural line of her skull, and protrudes out to about half way down her short muzzle. Some clever hair style disguises it pretty well! She still seems quite well, but its day by day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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denali Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 The poor thing No one should have to go through cancer. Gorgeous groom by the way :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjrt Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 The poor thing No one should have to go through cancer. Gorgeous groom by the way :) Thank You! It's so sad to see her and her mum. They really are the sweetest pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjrt Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 I saw this darling again the other day. Her tumour has grown and changed a lot in the six or so weeks since I saw her last. Her time is ticking.......hope to see her at xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjrt Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Edited November 17, 2015 by blinkblink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denali Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 poor thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Best Dogs! Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Poor sweetheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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