dogbesotted Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Dennys Dog has been prescribed tramadol ( for arthritis pain) the label says Tramadol Hydrochloride 50mg per tablet Dosage give 3 tablets twice daily ( that is 300mg per day) everything i read from Dr Google seems to indicate that this is a very high starting dose..DD weighs 40kg H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 . My 30kg is on max 100mg and at the moment I give him a 50 mg around midnight so he gets a good sleep and have tapered off to 25mg after lunch if I think he needs it. He's not taking tramadol for arthritic pain though and I hope he won't be on them permanently. Initially I wasn't sure if the pain relief was actually working, he seemed spaced out and not really relaxing with relief. Speaking with our vet we added Metacam (anti inflammatory) and they seem to work better together. (I did read somewhere that tramadol works better with something else thrown in). To be honest though I worry the tramadol is messing with his head a bit, he's been on them for about 40 days now. Good luck with Denny's Dog, I'm sure heaps of people will give you some good answers :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 That does seem like a heavy dose. Boof is on tramadol as pain management for his final days with cancer. He is currently on 40mg per day split into two doses and he is 11kgs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airedaler Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Perhaps a phone call to whoever prescribed this would be better than asking on a forum. People here can give you information re what they are giving their dogs but not second guess what you have been prescribed or why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchnauzerMax Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Tramadol can have some nasty side effects in some dogs. It can cause disorientation which makes the dog more anxious as well as wobbly. The dosage does seem high. I would check with the vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westiemum Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 And again dog besotted. That seems a lot to me so I'd check with the vet. There might be reasons your Denny is on a higher dose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Dose is 1-5mg per kg two-three times daily. Denny's dose is within range but if you feel he isn't that painful, you could reduce the dose. Does it make him seem dopey? Tramadol has no anti-inflammatory properties so is often used in conjunction with anti-inflams. For arthritis carprofen or metacam is common. However non-steroidals can exacerbate kidney problems and some vets don't like to use them in older patients so your vet may be avoiding it deliberately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyz Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Kirty is correct, for post op orthopedic pain relief we combine it with a NSAID at usually 2mg/kg, but usually 3 times daily (every 8 hours). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaMomma Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Dennys Dog has been prescribed tramadol ( for arthritis pain) the label says Tramadol Hydrochloride 50mg per tablet Dosage give 3 tablets twice daily ( that is 300mg per day) everything i read from Dr Google seems to indicate that this is a very high starting dose..DD weighs 40kg H Just be a wee bit careful of Dr Google.... there's a fine line about what your Vet has actually witnessed, what is happening with dear Dennys Dog and what Dr Google says.... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) My boy is on Tramadol for pain relief for early onset Arthritis in his hips. 25mg twice a day plus Carprohen anti inflamitory 25mg twice a day. He is 24kg. I monitor Sonny as sometimes he may need more of either medication on any given day. Edited April 7, 2015 by BC Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbesotted Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 hay...thanks all.. was just checking out general opinion.. will be popping back into vet this afternoon to talk more h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaMomma Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 hay...thanks all.. was just checking out general opinion.. will be popping back into vet this afternoon to talk more h Think Dennys Dog is one lucky puppy then. My breeder, also a Vet, starts with a higher dose and then reduces. But that's easy for her. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbesotted Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 hay...thanks all.. was just checking out general opinion.. will be popping back into vet this afternoon to talk more h Think Dennys Dog is one lucky puppy then. My breeder, also a Vet, starts with a higher dose and then reduces. But that's easy for her. :) he is very very old ... and therefore at the riskier end for these meds h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaMomma Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 he is very very old ... and therefore at the riskier end for these meds h And a puppy at heart and in your heart too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brookestar Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 My dog (21 kg) was prescribed 100 mg, 3 times daily, so 300 mg a day. She has been on it for the last 6 weeks, and we are now going through withdrawal in trying to reduce the dosage. In my opinion I would start with a lower dose and then increase if necessary. You will notice effects within an hour of giving it, so it should be pretty obvious if they need something higher. As someone else has said it is normally prescribed at 1 - 5 mg, per kg of body weight, so my dog was on the maximum. At the time I just gave it as prescribed no questions asked. While I agree that Dr Google can be dangerous, there are decent websites, that simply tell you standard dosages and standard side effects, and I see nothing wrong with those. They allow you to understand where the prescription lies in the norm, etc. From my perspective I would have preferred to have started with a lower dosage for my dog and see how she was, rather than simply putting her on the maximum at the beginning, and have no idea of what was happening. In an ideal world vets would have these discussions and open up discussions about them, unfortunately many do not. Tramadol does have a short half life and so really does need to be prescribed at least 8 hourly to have any real benefits. Otherwise the effects will have worn off before the next dosage is given. I guess that can allow you to know what level of pain the dog is in, but the idea should be to minimise and reduce pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbesotted Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 he is very very old ... and therefore at the riskier end for these meds h And a puppy at heart and in your heart too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbesotted Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 My dog (21 kg) was prescribed 100 mg, 3 times daily, so 300 mg a day. She has been on it for the last 6 weeks, and we are now going through withdrawal in trying to reduce the dosage. In my opinion I would start with a lower dose and then increase if necessary. You will notice effects within an hour of giving it, so it should be pretty obvious if they need something higher. As someone else has said it is normally prescribed at 1 - 5 mg, per kg of body weight, so my dog was on the maximum. At the time I just gave it as prescribed no questions asked. While I agree that Dr Google can be dangerous, there are decent websites, that simply tell you standard dosages and standard side effects, and I see nothing wrong with those. They allow you to understand where the prescription lies in the norm, etc. From my perspective I would have preferred to have started with a lower dosage for my dog and see how she was, rather than simply putting her on the maximum at the beginning, and have no idea of what was happening. In an ideal world vets would have these discussions and open up discussions about them, unfortunately many do not. Tramadol does have a short half life and so really does need to be prescribed at least 8 hourly to have any real benefits. Otherwise the effects will have worn off before the next dosage is given. I guess that can allow you to know what level of pain the dog is in, but the idea should be to minimise and reduce pain. well his lordship appearts to be moving a bit easier! in fact kept me awake all night last night ambling slowly out the add his ancient bark to that of the rest fo the pack..while the pack leader unsuccessfully tried to get her sleep... H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westiemum Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Pain relief in the oldies can be a real balancing act and a trade-off. I wasn't happy with Macs pain control so while we were with the internal medicine specialist for other things we discussed it. Mac had been prescribed Loxicom (metacam) as an anti- inflammatory and for pain control three to four times a week ( as apparently long term use can affect the kidneys). The specialist said its effects only lasted 24 hours so what we were doing was essentially giving him a good day followed by a bad day and then a good day and so on. Not good. So we decided at his age ( just 15 ) that it was better to give him quality of life and control the pain and inflammation of his arthritis and give him a dose of the Loxicom daily in the morning, despite the kidney risk. I also make sure he has plenty of water mixed in with each meal and his kidneys so far are fine. He still pees pale, in good quantity like a trooper!! His last blood panel was very good for such an elderly dog. He then has Gabapentin at night. Mac has had Tramadol post-surgically - but it doesn't work long enough for it to be effective here for longer-term pain relief. I know that seems like a huge amount if pain relief but I've found its made a huge difference to him - he's still a very spritely old man - as long as he gets his meds. If he doesn't it does make a difference to him and he struggles. Hope that helps. ETA: Oh and the good thing about the Gabapentin is its an oldie but a goodie - and its relatively cheap!! Edited April 8, 2015 by westiemum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westiemum Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 1428474963[/url]' post='6675670']1428455289[/url]' post='6675491']1428447255[/url]' post='6675417']he is very very old ... and therefore at the riskier end for these meds h And a puppy at heart and in your heart too. - just love the oldies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Oh he is a gorgeous ol' fella DBS ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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