Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I was also asked NOT to tell her what to do Are you sure it was "asked" and not "Told". The standard response to someone who says "Don't tell me what to do" should be "right back at you". Ie look who's talking. But you can't reason with people in that state. ignornant and impaired - run away... I do always have a crate in the car, so if I go to a family outing that gets too much for my dog or I want to sit down and eat without worrying about her foraging in the kitchen when I'm not paying attention... she goes in the crate in a shady safe spot. If the car is in a safe shady spot in winter, sometimes she goes back in there. Evil hound was really good yesterday (or completely overwhelmed) - we went to the semaphore kite festival (thought it might be a crap day for it today), and there were big kites and lots of people everywhere, and she was uncomfortable (would not take a treat) but very well behaved. If she'd started having a go at the kites or anything else I would have taken her away the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 yes, good socialisation is ideal - but it is almost impossible here , with so few opportunities ... Thanks for the support, as usual :) it is also good to read of others who do not like being in the company of drunk people - I avoid it where possible - this was an unexpected and most unpleasant surprise Don has had extra cuddles - and is asleep under the kitchen table . :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I was married to an alcoholic and our old SBT, Ollie, would avoid him when he was drunk. Ollie loved him when he was sober but drunk, he would avoid him like the plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 Are you sure it was "asked" and not "Told". you are correct . Oh - and this same person was very disappointed in me , because I didn't pat/fuss over their dogs when I was at their place ...explaining that I am not one to fuss over dogs just because they are there - well that went down like a lead balloon , as did many other things . I felt/feel very upset by it all - darn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I had a relative staying with me for a while who drank almost every day. He was an obnoxious, nasty drunk. When he was sober the dogs liked him. When he was loud and abusive the dogs stayed right by me, they wouldn't go near him. It was a huge relief when he left. He wouldn't have been welcome in the first place had I known. I don't like being around drunk people and neither do my dogs. If I had a drunk visitor to my home I would ensure the dogs were kept away from the person. I would also ensure the visit was a very short one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I felt/feel very upset by it all - darn it. I think this is probably natural. I get upset when I'm accused of something I didn't do. I probably look exactly like every dog in the "Guilty dog" videos. It's like what did I do, please don't hit me. And they "hit" you verbally anyway. And it's worse if it's someone you care about and want to like you. Or just get along. It's strange how some people expect you to just know how they want you to behave. As if you're telepathic. Sometimes I have to tell them, "I am not telepathic and I am not your toy, to do your every bidding". Fortunately there's not many of those people left in my life. And I am deeply surprised and upset if I encounter one unexpectedly. I don't usually think of any witty come backs under the immediate onslaught of their imperative rudeness. It's later when I have a chance to safely engage my brain again. Ie people under attack tend to do the exact opposite of what you want (note to corporate managers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) My Dobe disliked drunk/alcohol smelling people intensly. We only have the odd glass of wine etc and the two times she came very close to biting people, one was a drink friend who she knew and loved, but they were yahooing and about to step through the door at night. They didn't realise but she had raced through, was on the other side of the door and was not happy. The other time was a time I could not get her to settle at a friends house. I put her outside and she sat at the door and eyeballed a young bloke - who appeared very nice - and gave him the creeps that badly from the eyeballing and rumbling that he left. He wasn't drunk but had been to a rave party the night before and would take drugs while there. That was the only thing I could put it down to as all the oteehr young men she met at that house she loved on the same trip. Oh and I think in that situation Perse, especially when you were 'told" to not tell her what to do you should have told her very firmly what to do, ie go and get knotted - and then stayed away from her! Stupid woman, poor you and Don Edited April 6, 2015 by OSoSwift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 O So Swift - your dobe was a good judge :) My kieran would shoulder his way between someone who had been drinking, and our family - keeping the person at distance m if they were the touchie-feely type of drunk .... there would often also be a low rumble- unheard by the person to which it was directed. being that Kieran was 42 kg of staghound ... his actions were much appreciated by me . he also did NOT like teenage boys - and would keep me away from them too :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podengo Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Elsie loves drunk people haha, if we have parties she stays up way past her usual bed time and brings ALL of her toys out because all the suckers will throw her toys for hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stressmagnet Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Georgia the AmStaff would tolerate my then husband unless he was high. Then she'd shadow the girls and put herself always between him and them. No other time would she do this. And he was much nicer high than straight so she obviously wasn't happy about the drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemmy Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Elsie loves drunk people haha, if we have parties she stays up way past her usual bed time and brings ALL of her toys out because all the suckers will throw her toys for hours! Hahaha, this is true for us as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazyWal Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Elsie loves drunk people haha, if we have parties she stays up way past her usual bed time and brings ALL of her toys out because all the suckers will throw her toys for hours! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 LOL@Elsie's idea :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katdogs Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Ours usually take their cues from us and are used to the smell of drinking. Jodie is a prude and reminds me of my Presbyterian grandma who never had alcohol pass her lips (we never told her the medicinal port might count). Stevie taught herself to knock over beer bottles when she was very young so she could lap it up and is known to run into the tennis club to lick up the tray under the taps! Sammy doesn't mind getting the last drips out of a beer bottle either. They're more likely to focus on a stranger's behaviour. Stevie has dragged me towards a woman who was high as a kite and sobbing with grief about her lost boyfriend, so she could lick her better. she's also pulled me away or walked on the wrong side between me and beery blokes making unpleasant comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaMomma Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Thanks. If the situation was different - I would have not even stayed - *family pressure* I was "this far" from saying you WILL get bitten if you push - and then Don might, too ! Oh - I was also asked NOT to tell her what to do - SHE could see that Don was just so excited to be on an outing , he was beside himself ...... the 'what ifs ' ... had I known she'd been drinking all afternoon I certainly wouldn't have fronted up - let alone take goofy dog with. It's hard here , with not a regular flow of people - sometimes we go a couple of weeks with just me & the animals ..Don & Trouble & I all live pretty insulated /isolated lives .....our social skills can be lacking:( Ha..... does not say much for the social skills of the other party to be intoxicated and thus obnoxious. Way to put a downer on an outing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaMomma Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Thanks. If the situation was different - I would have not even stayed - *family pressure* I was "this far" from saying you WILL get bitten if you push - and then Don might, too ! Oh - I was also asked NOT to tell her what to do - SHE could see that Don was just so excited to be on an outing , he was beside himself ...... the 'what ifs ' ... had I known she'd been drinking all afternoon I certainly wouldn't have fronted up - let alone take goofy dog with. It's hard here , with not a regular flow of people - sometimes we go a couple of weeks with just me & the animals ..Don & Trouble & I all live pretty insulated /isolated lives .....our social skills can be lacking:( Ha..... does not say much for the social skills of the other party to be intoxicated and thus obnoxious. Way to put a downer on an outing. Of all my Vizslas, only Tibor was entirely immune to idiots. He used to totally ignore them. Horrible Herbert needs much guidance thanks to the obnoxious neighbour. Edited April 6, 2015 by VizslaMomma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Dogs cope well with whatever human idiotic stuff they've learned to cope with. go to an AA meeting and talk with serious alcoholics about dogs and you'll hear lots of people talk about the dog as the only one who stuck by them when they hit bottom. A dog from a teetotaler family isn't going to be prepared to handle drink. dogs easily learn to spot and avoid drunks who take it out on the dog.. . .but may also recognize the sloppy drunk who will throw a ball for hours or scratch the places that itch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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