BarbedWire Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) beautiful dog, but it only takes one incident. generalization is wrong but im being realistic. yup i know nothing bout amstaff or apbt. just do us all a favour when your dog attacks the other dog ,dont get scared of your own dog when their eyes light up lmao. edited because I really don't care. Today is being an awful day. Sorry all Edited March 17, 2015 by sarsaparilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 those were historical images of founders of bull fighting breed. it was all legal that time. like posting video of founders of german sheperd and their dogs one hundred years ago, on a all breeds forum , then get upset. you want to hide the history, but happy to sell their dogs. were pictures from late 1800s and early 1900s. you think my post was trolling, my post were factual. hard truth. There is a difference between discussing the history of a breed and glorifying animal cruelty. You've made no secret of your respect for "real" dog fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackun Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 those were historical images of founders of bull fighting breed. it was all legal that time. like posting video of founders of german sheperd and their dogs one hundred years ago, on a all breeds forum , then get upset. you want to hide the history, but happy to sell their dogs. were pictures from late 1800s and early 1900s. you think my post was trolling, my post were factual. hard truth. There is a difference between discussing the history of a breed and glorifying animal cruelty. You've made no secret of your respect for "real" dog fighters. thats our breed history and i respect and glorify our breed, but not animal cruelity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyz Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Advise sticking away from "Aussie" bulldogs, I work in a surgical specialist hospital and we see way more "Aussies" than properly bred and registered ennglish bulldogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wabbit Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Staffords are not a breed for the faint hearted, nor for the dog park. For every happy-go-lucky, easy-going, carefree little 'dude', there are 10 more who are very much NOT. Their extraordinary love and devotion to their humans does not translate to other dogs. I don't let my Staffords play with other dogs, known or unknown, outside our family. EVER. The consequences of overexcitement or a perceived boundary overstepped are too significant, even for a youngster. And yes I've learned the hard way. We have pedigree Staffords - we show, train OB, and they live in our home as family. A multi-Stafford household is not easy, and depends entirely on the dogs themselves. For years we had no problems at all, but our guys need firmer management now since our high prey-drive boy came along, and we moved house. Yes, dog-dog aggression can be more prevalent in particular lines. Don't assume socialisation will address it - its like believing that clipping a long-coated dog will make it smooth coat. The underlying genetics will always prevail. A male Stafford pup would likely be fine with an older terrier bitch. Puppy selection is a whole other topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkabull Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Thank you all for your replies,I have been following along and taking everything on board. I am not a total novice to American staffies and managing dog aggression, without going into it to much my brother moved home with his lovely but very dog aggressive Am Staff (with papers from a registered breeder, father was a European import.....probably had something to do with his DA) for 12 months and we had the dog. He was a shift worker on long shifts so i looked after the dog a lot. There was no dog parks (i dont like them) so long walks and jogs with me along bike tracks and beach etc. I used to have to keep him on a leash and muzzled with a metal one that he could drink and pant through because of the amount of dogs that people just let run up to us despite me yelling get your dog! He was very much 'ill finish what you start' and the slightest posturing or challenge from another would set him off. We broke up a few fights when his aggression started showing as he matured and it not something i ever want to do again. He was a sweetie with our dogs at the time, small maltese cross females would would snap and snarl at him and he would just take it as 'they love me' and never batted an eye lid.... but he was muzzled when around them in the house as we just didn't trust him 100%. We had a large dog run out the back for him when we were not home. It was stressful at times taking him out constantly being on guard and scanning for other dogs etc. I just don't want the management and stress of that again. I haven't had much to do with SBT hence my question. I have spoken to OH and told him honestly concerns and opinions etc and while still keen to get one i think he realises im not happy and not risking my cairn. Plus i do not want a high needs dog again, i want a dog to throw in the car with cairn and bubs and take for a walk/to beach/to families homes without worrying about managing behavior. He loves his bully types so his compromise is an English bulldog or Australian bulldog. I know Aussie bulldogs are relatively 'new' but im having to compromise here and i would love and English but don't think we can afford the maintenance vet bills lol. Anyone have any experince with Australian bulldogs? I do :) I own 3 (am registered with the Australasian Bosdog Society) and they have amazing temperaments. I have not met any that have been aggressive (dog or people) and we have sometimes had 5 plus entire males at our get together. As with any breed it's good to check out the temperaments of the parents and do some research into the breed but I can honestly say that they are amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackun Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 as a rule my bulldogs if they roam the yard freely then they must be muzzled same as going out for walks, when contained in yard they are chained up on a longchain and plus inside a locked cage. only time they not muzzled is inthe cage, absolutely no excuse, chance of attack is near zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbedWire Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 as a rule my bulldogs if they roam the yard freely then they must be muzzled same as going out for walks, when contained in yard they are chained up on a longchain and plus inside a locked cage. only time they not muzzled is inthe cage, absolutely no excuse, chance of attack is near zero. What sort of a life is that for a dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 as a rule my bulldogs if they roam the yard freely then they must be muzzled same as going out for walks, when contained in yard they are chained up on a longchain and plus inside a locked cage. only time they not muzzled is inthe cage, absolutely no excuse, chance of attack is near zero. Are you worried about them attacking each other, other dogs or humans? Have you had an experience with them that has led you to feel this level of constraint is necessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackun Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 as a rule my bulldogs if they roam the yard freely then they must be muzzled same as going out for walks, when contained in yard they are chained up on a longchain and plus inside a locked cage. only time they not muzzled is inthe cage, absolutely no excuse, chance of attack is near zero. Are you worried about them attacking each other, other dogs or humans? Have you had an experience with them that has led you to feel this level of constraint is necessary? thats how every pit bull in this country should be treated. if people had followed this method dog attacks by pit types wouldnt happen. my pit bull is not aggressive toward dogs or human, i can take it to dog parks and let it loose, but if an incident happens and that dog gets in to a fight, you will never forget it. muzzle lets them drink freely and breath, dont need any thing in its mouth if its not eating something i feed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) as a rule my bulldogs if they roam the yard freely then they must be muzzled same as going out for walks, when contained in yard they are chained up on a longchain and plus inside a locked cage. only time they not muzzled is inthe cage, absolutely no excuse, chance of attack is near zero. Are you worried about them attacking each other, other dogs or humans? Have you had an experience with them that has led you to feel this level of constraint is necessary? thats how every pit bull in this country should be treated. if people had followed this method dog attacks by pit types wouldnt happen. my pit bull is not aggressive toward dogs or human, i can take it to dog parks and let it loose, but if an incident happens and that dog gets in to a fight, you will never forget it. muzzle lets them drink freely and breath, dont need any thing in its mouth if its not eating something i feed it. I'm confused about what kind of dogs you actually have. You've said you have bulldogs, which to most would imply English or maybe American or Australian Bulldogs, then you said pit bull, which would imply American Pit Bull Terrier. I only ask because you are posting some strong opinions in a thread asking about the temperaments of Staffordshire Bull Terriers. It doesn't sound like your experience is actually with that breed and from your posts it sounds like you are lumping any bull breed dog in together and saying they should all be treated and will behave as an active pit fighting dog of whatever actual breed or mix would. Edited March 27, 2015 by Simply Grand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackun Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) guess what, i broke up the first fight of my terrier with my pit bull, there was a bone in yard they were playing together abd terrier got possesive of bone they found and bit my pit bull, fight broke out, pitbull was already muzzled . i run picked it up and calmed it down bone remove, minutes later like nothing happened between them. just last night. female pitbull and a male terrier. i also had my terriet slip out its collar on a walk before when its saw a cat and went bnuts, it pulled back and i pulled it and it slipped out, almost got the cat, i jumped caught it by legs ln last seconds, i also had a pit bull slip out eight years ago, so no more, also one came out of a lead, in the beach, was using good leash type, became faulty and dog came out. Edited March 27, 2015 by blackun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 guess what, i broke up the first fight of my terrier with my pit bull, there was a bone in yard they were playing together abd terrier got possesive of bone they found and bit my pit bull, fight broke out, pitbull was already muzzled . i run picked it up and calmed it down bone remove, minutes later like nothing happened between them. just last night. female pitbull and a male terrier. Oh, that clears that up then...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Sounds as if you need to spend a bit of money to buy equipment which will allow you to keep the dogs restrained ! ;) Buy harnesses instead of collars ..the terrier will not fins it at all easy to chase things . Buy good quality leashes/harnesses etc with solid brass fittings .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 as a rule my bulldogs if they roam the yard freely then they must be muzzled same as going out for walks, when contained in yard they are chained up on a longchain and plus inside a locked cage. only time they not muzzled is inthe cage, absolutely no excuse, chance of attack is near zero. This sounds as if there is a near zero chance of these dogs having a carefree and interesting day .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raineth Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Why do they need to be chained when they are in a cage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 guess what, i broke up the first fight of my terrier with my pit bull, there was a bone in yard they were playing together abd terrier got possesive of bone they found and bit my pit bull, fight broke out, pitbull was already muzzled . i run picked it up and calmed it down bone remove, minutes later like nothing happened between them. just last night. female pitbull and a male terrier. Oh, that clears that up then...??? I love you. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackun Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 guess what, i broke up the first fight of my terrier with my pit bull, there was a bone in yard they were playing together abd terrier got possesive of bone they found and bit my pit bull, fight broke out, pitbull was already muzzled . i run picked it up and calmed it down bone remove, minutes later like nothing happened between them. just last night. female pitbull and a male terrier. Oh, that clears that up then...??? was an old bone, didnt see it. my fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackun Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 as a rule my bulldogs if they roam the yard freely then they must be muzzled same as going out for walks, when contained in yard they are chained up on a longchain and plus inside a locked cage. only time they not muzzled is inthe cage, absolutely no excuse, chance of attack is near zero. This sounds as if there is a near zero chance of these dogs having a carefree and interesting day .... no carefree here, interesting days with muzzle on. unless out hunting wish we do quiet a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackun Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Why do they need to be chained when they are in a cage? not on concrete. dont have permission for concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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