mustluvdoggzz Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I few months ago there was a thread about anesthesia free dog teeth cleaning and at the time there were more skeptics than believers. I'm the one that did the teeth cleaning and it went on without a hitch and the client who is a member on this forum had positive things to say. So my question is now that you know that it can be done successfully without the risks of having a dog go under general anesthesia would you use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denali Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I would say yes. However- my dogs dont need it. I care for their teeth with brushing, lots of bones, a raw diet and coconut oil. None of them have any tartar buildup yet -touchwood- and i hope to keep it that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentchild Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I would be interested if my dog needed her teeth cleaned in the future but I would like to watch a procedure being done first before I got it done on my dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Yes, I would use it. I'm seriously considering it for one of my Cavaliers who has some tartar on the two small molars behind the carnassials. I'm a bit uncertain if he would settle. His teeth are not in bad condition but he won't let me get at these back teeth and better he has a dental now before there is a need for more extensive dental work. This dog is a well behaved 10 1/2yo. Strangely my other Cavalier who is 9 1/2yo has never had a dental and her teeth are perfectly white and clean. Would the OP please post your contact details again. I'm not able to find them anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airedaler Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) ]I was the original poster re this and was delighted with the service. The only down side I can see is if the dog needs further dental work. Details of the service are Fresh Breath Dog & Cat Cleaning 04393336825 email: [email protected] CavNrott, I think you may be pleasantly surprised at just how well your dog settles. My boy is not the most relaxed dog at all but Brian managed to completely calm him with no effort. Edited December 19, 2014 by Airedaler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Thanks for the email addy Aireldaler. My boy has congestive heart failure so I'm very reluctant for him to have a GA. I will send them an email after Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 My dogs all have clean teeth except for Feather who is 12 and has never been a good bone chewer, she's pretty whimpy with bones. Still, I dont think her teeth are bad enough to require a dental just yet, but if they did I'd probably give this system a try especially given her age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Both of my Cavs had clean white teeth when they were able to have RMB. The boy had an impaction of crunched up bone that required a flush out enema under GA which put an end to bones in this house. It wasn't even a large piece of bone that was the cause of the problem, the bone was properly crunched up but caused constipation that wouldn't shift even with a capsule enema. My Cav boy was 9yo before he needed the dental and two of his tiny teeth needed to be extracted. I now give them various natural chews to help with teeth cleaning and this works well for my 9 1/2yo girl who has never needed a dental but for some reason the boy is not quite so lucky. The tartar has just recently formed on his teeth. When the vet saw him three months ago his teeth were ok. I hope he can have his teeth cleaned by the method under discussion without him needing a GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Working Dog Lover Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Not for me, thanks. Three of my four dogs have had a professional clean under anaesthesia, the fourth will be done early 2015. http://www.petmd.com/blogs/fullyvetted/2010/april/anesthesia_free_dentistry-7324 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Nor me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 A dental under GA is usually fine for healthy dogs but what about those of us who have dogs with say, heart disease as my Cavalier has. Would you risk a GA or would you try anaesthesia free dental treatment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) IS it all done by hand scaling? Are they polished afterwards? Edited December 20, 2014 by OSoSwift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Personally I've never had to have a dental done on any dog I've owned, whether through luck/feeding bones etc they have all had great clean teeth and lived to a good age, so I'd prefer not to have to do it at all. If I was in your position cnr I'd research both options thoroughly and then make a decision, I may consider it in that instance if the dog really needed the dental. Edited December 20, 2014 by Dame Aussie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 A dental under GA is usually fine for healthy dogs but what about those of us who have dogs with say, heart disease as my Cavalier has. Would you risk a GA or would you try anaesthesia free dental treatment? A dog either requires a dental or it doesn't. Superficial tartar is a cosmetic issue and just scraping off what you can see won't necessarily benefit the health of the animal. If it requires a dental, the best results will be seen with the dog anesthetized. Animals with illnesses including heart disease are safely anesthetized on a daily basis. There are always risks associated with anaesthesia and surgery but in many instances they can be greatly minimized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniek Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I don't see the point in it. I can remove the superficial tartar from my dogs teeth with my finger nails. If they need a proper dental to clean under the gum line then that is what they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I've watched this youtube video about it. Not from the OP, it's a US based company. It might be good if the OP made one too to show and explain the procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 A dog either requires a dental or it doesn't. Superficial tartar is a cosmetic issue and just scraping off what you can see won't necessarily benefit the health of the animal. If it requires a dental, the best results will be seen with the dog anesthetized. Animals with illnesses including heart disease are safely anesthetized on a daily basis. There are always risks associated with anaesthesia and surgery but in many instances they can be greatly minimized. No not all sick dogs can be safely anesthetized. I have been told by my specialists not to put Amber under a GA unless it is a life/death emergency type situation. cavNrott have you tried deer antlers? They have cleaned up the dogs teeth quite well. I just let them have a supervised 30 min chomp. To the OP do you polish the teeth too? If you did that I might consider using your services. If you are just scaling, then no as I can scale my dog's teeth myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) A dog either requires a dental or it doesn't. Superficial tartar is a cosmetic issue and just scraping off what you can see won't necessarily benefit the health of the animal. If it requires a dental, the best results will be seen with the dog anesthetized. Animals with illnesses including heart disease are safely anesthetized on a daily basis. There are always risks associated with anaesthesia and surgery but in many instances they can be greatly minimized. Clearly, Aussielover you are not a vet or you would not make blanket statements such as the above. Maybe some unwell dogs can be anesthetised safely, others can not. This needs to be assessed only by a qualified vet. I asked the vet should I book my dog in for a dental and he advised against it. No not all sick dogs can be safely anesthetized. I have been told by my specialists not to put Amber under a GA unless it is a life/death emergency type situation. cavNrott have you tried deer antlers? They have cleaned up the dogs teeth quite well. I just let them have a supervised 30 min chomp. Jules, I did buy deer antlers but my Cavs were not interested. They're too hard for the small mouth of a Cavalier KCS. He would happily chew raw meaty bones and had them for most of his life but he's had no bones since needing a flush out enema due constipation caused by a mass of crunched up bone. They were relatively soft bones too. The vet advised against any more RMB's. The bones kept his teeth clean until he had his first and only dental at 9yo but now he's older his system is unable to cope with RMB's. The tartar on the two tiny teeth behind the carnassials is a recent development. The carnassial teeth are clean as are the rest of his teeth His teeth were checked three months ago and were ok. I don't know where to go from here. I don't want him suffering dental pain on top of his congestive heart failure (for which he is medicated). edited to fix quotes (unsucsessfully) Edited December 21, 2014 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjrt Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I don't see the point in it. I can remove the superficial tartar from my dogs teeth with my finger nails. If they need a proper dental to clean under the gum line then that is what they need. I feel the same. I feed raw with loads of different bones and have dental scalers that I teach my dogs to tolerate. It is not hard to do it yourself. I rarely have to resort to manual scaling though. Every time I bathe my dogs from when they are babies, i just use a tissue to rub the canines mainly, the tissue is abrasive enough to wipe away any soft plaque that appears. I sometimes scratch with my fingernail to get anything a bit more stubborn. By the time the dogs are middle aged i may need to get out the manual scaler every so often, and they tolerate it very well. My old vet showed me years ago how to crack hard buildup off the teeth with haemostats! I have found between the diet rich in bones and natural chews, and a lifetime of diligent manual checking and scaling, I have never had to have a dog put under for a dental, not even my elderly Chihuahuas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) A dog either requires a dental or it doesn't. Superficial tartar is a cosmetic issue and just scraping off what you can see won't necessarily benefit the health of the animal. If it requires a dental, the best results will be seen with the dog anesthetized. Animals with illnesses including heart disease are safely anesthetized on a daily basis. There are always risks associated with anaesthesia and surgery but in many instances they can be greatly minimized. Clearly, Aussielover you are not a vet or you would not make blanket statements such as the above. Maybe some unwell dogs can be anesthetised safely, others can not. This needs to be assessed only by a qualified vet. I asked the vet should I book my dog in for a dental and he advised against it. No not all sick dogs can be safely anesthetized. I have been told by my specialists not to put Amber under a GA unless it is a life/death emergency type situation. cavNrott have you tried deer antlers? They have cleaned up the dogs teeth quite well. I just let them have a supervised 30 min chomp. Jules, I did buy deer antlers but my Cavs were not interested. They're too hard for the small mouth of a Cavalier KCS. He would happily chew raw meaty bones and had them for most of his life but he's had no bones since needing a flush out enema due constipation caused by a mass of crunched up bone. They were relatively soft bones too. The vet advised against any more RMB's. The bones kept his teeth clean until he had his first and only dental at 9yo but now he's older his system is unable to cope with RMB's. The tartar on the two tiny teeth behind the carnassials is a recent development. The carnassial teeth are clean as are the rest of his teeth His teeth were checked three months ago and were ok. I don't know where to go from here. I don't want him suffering dental pain on top of his congestive heart failure (for which he is medicated). edited to fix quotes I never said all animals can be safely anaesthetized. I apologize if this was not clear. In many (but not all) cases the risk can be minimized. To be clear, this is NOT to say that every animal can be. I absolutely agree that it is up to the treating vet and owner to decide whether the risk is too high. If it's only slight tartar- you could try daily teeth brushing to prevent it from getting any worse. I Edited December 21, 2014 by aussielover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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