Airedaler Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Teeth cleaning without a GA. Has anyone heard of this guy? I need to have my boys teeth done and at 12 would be happy not to have to put him under a GA. Also does anyone have any ball park idea of the usual cost of a basic teeth clean (no other work needed - just a clean) at the Vet? http://www.freshbreathdoggiedental.com/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Their website is not very forthcoming with information. It doesn't even tell us where this vet dentist is located. It seems they are somewhere in Victoria. I would really like to know how they relax dogs and particularly cats enough to be able to carry out the anaesthesia free dental procedure. The animals would already be stressed simply by being in an unfamiliar environment. It is beyond my imagination to picture animals 'opening wide' on the command by the dentist. The concept is great but I would like more information about how this is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airedaler Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) I agree there is little information on the website. They are located at Dandenong (it is on their FB page) but they are a mobile service so will come to your home. I'm tempted to try them. Edited October 31, 2014 by Airedaler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 there's another one who's been advertising on facebook for a few weeks now, not associated with this bloke. I asked if she sedates them at all or if she's a vet. No to both questions. I too wonder how they manage it. A few of the photos show the dog just laying there and I cannot help wondering if it's had a sedative. I wonder if they let you stay and watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airedaler Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 there's another one who's been advertising on facebook for a few weeks now, not associated with this bloke. I asked if she sedates them at all or if she's a vet. No to both questions. I too wonder how they manage it. A few of the photos show the dog just laying there and I cannot help wondering if it's had a sedative. I wonder if they let you stay and watch. If they are doing it at your home they would be hard pressed to stop you from watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 how do they keep the dog still? A dog who wriggles at the wrong moment risks injury .... I'd be asking what restraint methods they use . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranga Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 My vet cleans my toy poodle's teeth without a GA. The dog is sedated with gas and I sit in on the procedure. The dog recovers well without the drama of being left at the surgery for hours :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) here's the other mobs facebook page. It clearly says no sedation but one photo shows a dogs mouth with the tongue sticking out. like it's unconscious. https://www.facebook.com/caninedentalhygiene?ref=br_rs&pnref=lhc Edited November 1, 2014 by Kirislin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I would very much like to know how they keep the dogs still enough to carry out the procedure. There are lots of before and after pics on the FB page and it's stated that they don't sedate the dogs. I can't imaging my dogs lying perfectly still while all this is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I can scale my dog's teeth. They just sit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I can scale my dog's teeth. They just sit there. If it's so easy to do while they're awake it makes me wonder why vets knock them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Just watching this. Is shows it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 is it totally DRUG FREE - or is it NO G.A . Do they perhaps give them a shot of something which leaves the poor dog paralysed- but conscious ? I think the worst first, sorry if the person doing it has no qualifications - steer clear . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 The video I am watching says they sometimes use a gel. This would the same stuff that the dentist uses before sticking a needle into your gum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Wow, that video is really good, makes me want to run out and buy some dental tools and do my own dogs if they ever need it. Tag and Puck dont but Feather occasionally needs to have a bit of plaque picked off and I'm told IGs are notorious for having bad teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Thanks for that video, jules :) Looks good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranga Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Thanks for that video, jules :) Looks good! Agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Both people advertising have worked in the US too so I would assume that they trained there to do the procedure. My horse dentist was really, really good with horses. No drugs needed. He just had this calming presence about him. I did use a vet once who had to drug the horse that the dentist just used to do drug-free. So I would imagine it is the same with dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniek Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 My vet will do a quick scale as part of annual check up. But it isn't getting under the gumline where all of the nasty things happen - GA needed to that properly IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) PLEASE DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS AS GOOD AS A VETERINARY DENTAL PROCEDURE OR EVEN COMPARABLE!! It is really quite upsetting that this is sneaking into Australia because it has caused so many problems in the US Sorry for the caps but this is how much I believe in it. Scaling the tooth is cosmetic only because there is no possible way to get under the gumline to do a full examination. It is not just about the dog sitting still. And if you think of the risk of bacteria getting into the blood stream via the infection under the gum and causing infections in the heart and liver then you can understand that it is simply not worth the risk of not having a proper dental done. Jules- equine dentistry is about rasping the top of the tooth down, not about probing under the gum. That being said we are starting to realise that Gingivitis and periodontal disease is actually a huge problem in horses too and vets are now starting to treat this during equine dentals as well as ensuring the teeth glide appropriately. Please go to this link see why http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/perils-anesthesia-free-dentistry-pets ETA this link http://www.avdc.org/dentalscaling.html ETA- Just watched a video and I didn't get past 'Step 2'- that wasn't even close to an appropriate full oral exam Edited November 1, 2014 by Jumabaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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