VizslaMomma Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hope the drug works :) You'll hear me, persephone :laugh: And me! Paws crossed still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yonjuro Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Sounds like things are looking up - Great stuff DDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) pity about the gingernut biscuits - my greedy hound does stupid things in hopes of some of those. Glad you've got something to try for the nausea. Maxolon worked for me... So many drugs make me feel ill especially the pain killer ones (eg codeine - which goes one better - I throw up). Edited January 5, 2015 by Mrs Rusty Bucket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 excellent!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coogie Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Great update,everything crossed it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 pity about the gingernut biscuits - my greedy hound does stupid things in hopes of some of those. Glad you've got something to try for the nausea. Maxolon worked for me... So many drugs make me feel ill especially the pain killer ones (eg codeine - which goes one better - I throw up). Did you edit out the green hair :laugh: . Last time I looked it was a pretty insipid light brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm off to shoot myself. Gave Danny the Cerenia in peanut butter this morning without any difficulty, followed a little later with his Ranitidine and Cisapride and he lapped up a little bit of goats milk and honey. I also syringed some to take away the taste of the Ranitidine. Found it all thrown up on the deck with the pink of the tablet quite visible. Rang the vet to check about giving him another Cerenia. I had to wait for his answer as he was consulting. When the vet nurse called me back about an hour later to say it was okay, I mashed it up in a little water to syringe it. A few minutes later, I found it thrown up in the lounge room. Went out onto the deck to wipe up the previous mess, went into the lounge to wipe up the other and it had gone. No idea who licked it up :( That latest roller coaster at Luna Park doesn't come close to the roller coaster here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) Excellent that Danny now has meds to combat any nausea he might have. I think most meds can have some side effects but that doesn't mean everyone or every dog will suffer them. Edited: because we were posting at the same time. Bugger about the meds coming up. I would persist with the anti nausea meds because they may take time to kick in. I hope he keeps the next tablet down. I wonder if the Ranitidine and/or Cisapride might cause vomiting. I hope Rappie sees your post and will advise if it would be worth trying another anti nausea medication. Off to Google side effects of Ranitidine and Cisapride. Edited January 6, 2015 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemappelle Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I know Maxalon comes in injectable form, do any of these other drugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemappelle Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Cerenia comes in injectable form: http://www.drugs.com/vet/cerenia-injectable-solution.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Edited: because we were posting at the same time. Bugger about the meds coming up. I would persist with the anti nausea meds because they may take time to kick in. I hope he keeps the next tablet down. Yep we were posting at the same time and I came into the study to use my computer to reply and he just threw up again :( I know Maxalon comes in injectable form, do any of these other drugs? Cerenia comes in injectable form: http://www.drugs.com/vet/cerenia-injectable-solution.html I'm about to text my vet again, jemappelle. There must be something causing this. But it is very confusing seeing that all his blood tests yesterday were good. At my wits end. And add to Danny's woes, I just came back from walking Tamar and Bunter and someone has thrown up all over the couch. Whether Tamar did it before we went out walking or whether it was Jeune who was on the couch when we left, I don't know. Danny and Bunter can't get up onto the couch on their own any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 I know Maxalon comes in injectable form, do any of these other drugs? Are they long term like some of the antibiotics now or would they need to be given every day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Hi DDD If you can get the anti-nausea injected and it lasts a day - then he might be able to keep the tablet form down. Hopefully the vet would have some better idea but it's sad they didn't see the upchucking of the anti nausea coming. I think peanut could trigger and up chuck cos it is so fatty but was surprised that the stuff in water got the same treatment. I'm guessing one of your other critters got the first tablet? Or maybe a mouse. Good luck to it - they do love peanut butter (tho they have to fight the ants for it at my place). Sorry about the green hair - I lost track of what page I was on. On my computer - the hair on the top of your head is reflecting the colour of some green thing above your head. But I will stop digging now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Ummm I know this goes against everything you are trying but would there be any benefit in maybe not giving Danny anything at all, just water available, for perhaps 6/7/8 hours or whatever to give his tummy a rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemappelle Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 From experience, the trouble with resting the tummy is that the acid starts to upset the stomach. Large meals also tend to create a lot of discomfort as the hernia pushes it's way up through the esophagus. That's why the mantra is small meals, often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemappelle Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I know Maxalon comes in injectable form, do any of these other drugs? Are they long term like some of the antibiotics now or would they need to be given every day? It's very easy to give a dog a sub-cutaneous injection. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Poor Danny . Are you ok DD? Very sorry if I'm repeating suggestions but every day is going to be different so this is some of mine...it's a helpless feeling when you try so hard with erratic progress. Maxalon injection works well and might be your best alternative to trying oral when you're already battling. If you do go in on a vomity day definitely I'd ask for subcutaneous fluids to make sure he's got a little hydration to combat the vomiting. It makes them feel a little better. The vet may even be able to show you how to do it yourself, not great if you're nervous about needles or if you have a squiggler but it's not hard to do. And I keep a little bag of glucose powder to rub on the gums to knock the edges off any sugar drop they experience from not eating or not keeping enough food down. Nobody ever drinks the lectade or wants nutrigel except for the dogs that are feeling great already. Both are always a fail here for anyone nauseous and I don't blame them really. Peptosyl is hard to get in and easy to get back up (so you may want a prescription PPI) but a great antacid. And I may have missed this but have you asked about whether they can compound any of the meds together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Have sent another message to the vet. Mrs RB, no one got the first upchuck. By the time I'd wiped that up and gone back for the second, it was the seond that had gone. Tamar has now thrown up all over the deck. She did eat some of it back down. Pebbles, he goes ages without eating as it is. The meds are given three times a day - did you mean to stop even them? Jemappelle, that thought is pretty daunting, but if I have to learn to give injections, I will. As for small meals often: for someone who lives alone and doesn't do much cooking, you should see the mountain of washing up I have LOL. He just refuses everything. The goats milk and honey that he loved last night was poison this morning . Probably the nausea. I have just tried him on some icecream .... ignored. I've also tried a little bit of ordinary food. If he is nauseous, all these different foods I am trying are just a waste of time and probably make him feel worse just to smell them. I just don't know what else to do. I have suggested to my vet having a discussion with someone at ARH, because there is no way I am taking him back to SASH. It wasn't just the so called specialist: it was the receptionist, another vet and the practice manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Thanks Powerlegs, I don't mind any repeat questions. This thread would be a heavy load to go back to read it all to check :) Glucose powder - chemist? Compounding meds together - yes, I did ask that. I can no longer remember the reason why not, but I will recheck. Peptosyl - my understanding from Rappie's information and subsequently my vet is that Cerenia is a big gun, but will ask about it. Erratic progress - erratic is right, not sure about progress :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Yep glucose was at the chemist :) it's plain glucose and the bag is bigger than you'll ever use but it's good to have in the dog-stuff collection. I've heard Cerenia is great but I fortunately haven't had to try it yet. Peptosyl is for dogs and horses, non prescription ,kind of a daggy stomach settling liquid and has kind of fallen down the list of tummy options, it's sort of like the chalky old mylanta or that pink stuff Pepto Bismol still popular in the US. But I keep some in the cupboard anyway, in the dog-stuff collection. Just in case. And I'm prepared to wear pink splatters if it's spat out. :laugh: It's definitely not got the properties of Cerenia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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