_PL_ Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) (title changed to update thread) Can somebody please contact me if they have used your clause to pull dogs. I have some screenshots for you in my inbox. ta Anna Edited December 29, 2014 by Powerlegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katdogs Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 People still let others do that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Yep It's a shame really, and nothing will stop people doing it. Animals escape the PTS but a clause holder has no say over what happens afterwards. I think very few realise that. Having a chip in your name means absolutely nothing when it comes to getting your animal returned, you cannot get it back just because it's in your name. If you're very lucky and it ends up impounded so you can reclaim. And signing an animal over without proof of vetwork is plain stupid. I am trying to protect the clause holder from guilt by association by not posting all the snapshots I've got but so far nobody has stepped up. Dogs are not being desexed, ads have been pulled because a "troublemaker" kicked up a stink. edit meh, may as well add some as nobody seems to have noticed. Country co-ords may recognise some of their dogs. I pray these dogs are safe and DESEXED by now. Edited September 18, 2014 by Powerlegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Lovely... I wonder who's let them use their 16D? T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 That's what I was hoping to be messaged about but I didn't hear anything so the snapshots are up now. Maybe it will stop more dogs being sent. Although they are closing down according to the ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 They aren't affiliated with that other particular mob, are they? Seems like they are "specialising" in the breeds that other mob tends to want sprung from pounds... and the flowery wording of the ads seems similar too... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 They don't vaccinate until they get a deposit and the pup is only 8 weeks old? Wow... am I reading that correctly? What about the risk to the pup while it waits for someone to pay a deposit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) I've been told that if you read enough on the FB page you'll be able to work out who has sent at least one of the dogs. I'm not naming names but :laugh: promises promises. edit: yes Anne you're reading correctly. Not vaccinated. Edited September 18, 2014 by Powerlegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolineh1 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 SOCARES is having a bit of a meltdown at the moment I've noticed, and I think they share around their 16D so wouldn't be surprised if these were one of their wayward members.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneyA Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I'll have to look back through, but I think I remember seeing the Wagga female in RR. Round about the time there was a huge rush from 'the group that shall not be named' and their so-called affililiate rescues claiming to save everything from GRAS. Lasted about a month and then they all went quiet here, thankfully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keetamouse Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) Why any group in Newcastle would want to take small dogs from Wagga is beyond me, any one can see that the smalls all get saved. Maree CPR Edited September 20, 2014 by keetamouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphra Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I know nothing of the group, but how quiet DOL has got. Once upon a day a posting like this would have lead to a multiple-page meltdown, but now, everyone is all "meh". :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 :laugh: I noticed that too. But at least if someone google's the name the thread will be here and they might think twice about lending their clause out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 They don't vaccinate until they get a deposit and the pup is only 8 weeks old? Wow... am I reading that correctly? What about the risk to the pup while it waits for someone to pay a deposit? Well that's hardly a new practice. There are rescues who don't desex either before the dog gets a home. I guess that isn't as bad as not vaccinating though. SOCARES is having a bit of a meltdown at the moment I've noticed, and I think they share around their 16D so wouldn't be surprised if these were one of their wayward members.. That doesn't sound good. They have a contract to run Charmhaven don't they? I'm not really in touch with the rescue world these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Why do people still share their 16D's with all and sundry? I would have thought that were enough horror stories going around about those who've been stung that it would not be happening any more... Then again - those in the "gotta save everything with a pulse" brigade don't ever stop to think of possible consequences, do they? T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Lots don't stop to think of the consequences, but you'd think they'd learn from experience really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Yep. But then there's the fact that just because you are new you're not automatically useless. And just because you have a clause doesn't make you legit. In the end. If you're pulling dogs and cats out for strangers (who cares if they call themselves rescue!) who are then in turn helping their mates get animals out and nobody knows where they end up or what vetwork is done then: you're a nitwit. Who has totally missed the point that rescue is more than making sure an animal isn't PTS. And who is seriously overestimating their own ability to spot a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The fact that the 16D rules state that you shouldn't be sharing it about... why would you? There needs to be a huge amount of trust that someone using your 16D to pull dogs will do the right thing by you and get all the paperwork in order, yes? Who trusts anyone that much? I bet you wouldn't let those same people borrow your car for a week... just sayin'... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdashdot Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I've only just spotted this thread, caught my eye because I have heard of this group in my hometown, Im on the mid north coast of NSW. They don't have a great reputation, from what i've been told by customers (including a puppy dying soon after being given to new owners, owners experienced with dogs). Also have heard that they owe money to vets (but that doesn't necessarily mean anything) Other than that my personal experience with them is getting us to engrave about 30 name tags (with Fur Furever and names/numbers) which, because it would take a while, was not paid for upfront. Now we have 30 name tags and they don't return calls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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