Signs Of Early Kidney Disease And Diet

[Sheridan]

Thanks for the info Yonjuro, much appreciated :) might need to start printing out some of this and sticking it on the fridge so I remember to discuss it with the vet

You are most welcome :)

I know some people poo-poo holistic vets but I wonder if there is a good one near you that you can get a diet opinion from. I think they specialise more in diet than traditional vets?

Which is all very nice but do they specialise in diets for an everchanging disease? That, as I said before, is the problem with homemade diets. They have to change as the values change.

I would have though someone who specialises in diet - whomever this yes, is would be able to modify the diet according to the progress of the disease? Based on your reasoning, please tell me how a static product like K/D copes with an ever-changing condition. I haven't poo-pood KD I am simply offering suggestions. It sounds like jaybeece is certainly capable of doing the required research and also more than capable of discounting any suggestions I have made.

Yes, she is.

[JackieW]

I probably should have read all this thread before I commented but I thought I'd just say that my oldie was recently diagnosed as having early kidney disease too. She's been raw fed all her life and I didn't want to change that. So I now have her on Dr Billinghurst's "lite" as he recommends it for dogs with kidney or liver disease. Big Dog also has a version too.

[westiemum]

Hmm, the fact they include iodized salt in a prescription food to help kidney dysfunction is ominous to me. It's more often used to cover rancid meats and fats, and given there's no meat content I assume we're talking about the pork fat here?

Brewers rice - waste

Egg product - lousy

Corn gluten meal - by-product of a filler

Beet pulp - Sugary filler

Calcium sulfate - plaster of paris?

Phosphoric acid...

Most of the mineral inclusions look like standard sources to me. Fair enough, they're included, but none of them are quality sources. Let's mash up some Berocca and feed it to our kids in a Big Mac...

2 years a go my dog was diagnosed with a liver shunt. She was given 6 months to live. She wouldn't eat anything and was a very poorly dog. I had tried every super premium and raw diets.

I put her on Hills K/D & L/D. I was fairly OMG about the products as I was a food snob.

2 years later my dog is still here, eats her crappy Hills food with gusto and is doing really well.

It taught me to be more open minded about food and that the best food for a dog is the one it does well on.

Commenting like you have in this thread is not helpful to anyone.

Jules I have a feeling that a similar lesson is about to come my way - my Sarah is in having tests as we speak - and I suspect she's going to need some significant diet changes which as a raw feeder won't be easy for me or her - she hates dry food and looks really peeved whom the odd occasions she gets it. But if it means I have my happy beautiful girl around a bit longer then thaw what we'll do...

[westiemum]

Thanks for the info Yonjuro, much appreciated :) might need to start printing out some of this and sticking it on the fridge so I remember to discuss it with the vet

You are most welcome :)

I know some people poo-poo holistic vets but I wonder if there is a good one near you that you can get a diet opinion from. I think they specialise more in diet than traditional vets?

Which is all very nice but do they specialise in diets for an everchanging disease? That, as I said before, is the problem with homemade diets. They have to change as the values change.

I would have though someone who specialises in diet - whomever this yes, is would be able to modify the diet according to the progress of the disease? Based on your reasoning, please tell me how a static product like K/D copes with an ever-changing condition. I haven't poo-pood KD I am simply offering suggestions. It sounds like jaybeece is certainly capable of doing the required research and also more than capable of discounting any suggestions I have made.

Yes, she is.

:laugh: nuff said hey? But seriously, you brought up an interesting question but seem to be contradicting yourself - how does the branded food you recommend account for an ever-changing condition?

Thats a genuinely good question...

[JulesP]

Thanks for the info Yonjuro, much appreciated :) might need to start printing out some of this and sticking it on the fridge so I remember to discuss it with the vet

You are most welcome :)

I know some people poo-poo holistic vets but I wonder if there is a good one near you that you can get a diet opinion from. I think they specialise more in diet than traditional vets?

Which is all very nice but do they specialise in diets for an everchanging disease? That, as I said before, is the problem with homemade diets. They have to change as the values change.

I would have though someone who specialises in diet - whomever this yes, is would be able to modify the diet according to the progress of the disease? Based on your reasoning, please tell me how a static product like K/D copes with an ever-changing condition. I haven't poo-pood KD I am simply offering suggestions. It sounds like jaybeece is certainly capable of doing the required research and also more than capable of discounting any suggestions I have made.

Yes, she is.

:laugh: nuff said hey? But seriously, you brought up an interesting question but seem to be contradicting yourself - how does the branded food you recommend account for an ever-changing condition?

Thats a genuinely good question...

The food isn't medicine. It is designed to be very easily digested so that the dog's organs don't have to work so hard. There are also vitamins etc that support the kidneys. It basically causes the less harm possible.

Speaking from the view of treating liver disease - the food is static and the medicine changes as the dog's conditions change. I imagine it is the same for Kidney disease.

[Yonjuro]

Yes that is what I would have assumed too :)