Type Of Halti Recommendation

[Nekhbet]

And Stressmagnet just for you - dogs trained on a correction chain

The white shepherds owners were told she was too reactive and will never get along with another dog - they bought a female whippet and that is their regular friend visiting

My own rescue malinois who was beaten and dumped out on farms to starve. She was so nervous she was like a wild dog when we got her and now she can do LandSAR.

This dog was written off as too aggressive to people and to be euthanised at the word of another trainer. The owner rocked up with 3 leads attached to the dog and various equipment because he was so big. One chain, one leash and space in order to help.

I had this dog given to me as he was not controllable. That white line on his face is from a halti/gentle leader and he crab walked with his neck to the side from it (yes, he had been to classes) I eventually rehomed him as a companion dog for an autistic boy, and free to the family as a present as a breeder had stripped them of a lot of money and no puppy to show for it.

My little superstar - this dog was attacked by a shepherd at another school. They told owners due to his now reactivity issues he was basically never going to do agility or obedience. You can see he got this far in a few weeks worth of classes and is doing Schutzhund obedience, has started LandSAR training and agility.

Here is the dogs I train. Do they look like they're cowering? Injured? Abused? Like I said there's not just the old yank and crank for correction chains they can be used every so subtly as such a good method of communication since they apply no pressure to the animals face or neck unless you wish to communicate something, just like you're doing with your dog - you're pushing the limits of acceptable behavior.

Edited October 31, 2014 by Nekhbet

[persephone]

I just had the instructor at my puppy class tell me this about check/choke collars:

1. They cause spinal and neck injuries

2.. They cause reactive aggression because if you use them to stop a young dog from lunging toward people or other dogs, your dog associates the pain (?) of the check correction with people/other dogs and will then become reactive.

I use a check collar. I don't yank or jerk harshly - it barely tightens - and my dog is heeling well. I'm now worried.

i don't think they are suitable for baby pups - Your pup is NOT a baby pup ...and I would perhaps find a different trainer ;)

but .. Not sure about now ..but back in my previous life I trained many many guide and therapy dogs using chain collars - these were dogs who were working in public, and needed to be bombproof, friendly and of solid temperament :) Most were - and those that were not were born that way .

[persephone]

And Stressmagnet just for you - dogs trained on a correction chain

The white shepherds owners were told she was too reactive and will never get along with another dog - they bought a female whippet and that is their regular friend visiting

My own rescue malinois who was beaten and dumped out on farms to starve. She was so nervous she was like a wild dog when we got her and now she can do LandSAR.

This dog was written off as too aggressive to people and to be euthanised at the word of another trainer. The owner rocked up with 3 leads attached to the dog and various equipment because he was so big. One chain, one leash and space in order to help.

I had this dog given to me as he was not controllable. That white line on his face is from a halti/gentle leader and he crab walked with his neck to the side from it (yes, he had been to classes) I eventually rehomed him as a companion dog for an autistic boy, and free to the family as a present as a breeder had stripped them of a lot of money and no puppy to show for it.

My little superstar - this dog was attacked by a shepherd at another school. They told owners due to his now reactivity issues he was basically never going to do agility or obedience. You can see he got this far in a few weeks worth of classes and is doing Schutzhund obedience, has started LandSAR training and agility.

Here is the dogs I train. Do they look like they're cowering? Injured? Abused? Like I said there's not just the old yank and crank for correction chains they can be used every so subtly as such a good method of communication since they apply no pressure to the animals face or neck unless you wish to communicate something, just like you're doing with your dog - you're pushing the limits of acceptable behavior.

a collective AWWWWWW :) The face of that lab boy ............... *melt*

[persephone]

And Stressmagnet just for you - dogs trained on a correction chain

The white shepherds owners were told she was too reactive and will never get along with another dog - they bought a female whippet and that is their regular friend visiting

My own rescue malinois who was beaten and dumped out on farms to starve. She was so nervous she was like a wild dog when we got her and now she can do LandSAR.

This dog was written off as too aggressive to people and to be euthanised at the word of another trainer. The owner rocked up with 3 leads attached to the dog and various equipment because he was so big. One chain, one leash and space in order to help.

I had this dog given to me as he was not controllable. That white line on his face is from a halti/gentle leader and he crab walked with his neck to the side from it (yes, he had been to classes) I eventually rehomed him as a companion dog for an autistic boy, and free to the family as a present as a breeder had stripped them of a lot of money and no puppy to show for it.

My little superstar - this dog was attacked by a shepherd at another school. They told owners due to his now reactivity issues he was basically never going to do agility or obedience. You can see he got this far in a few weeks worth of classes and is doing Schutzhund obedience, has started LandSAR training and agility.

Here is the dogs I train. Do they look like they're cowering? Injured? Abused? Like I said there's not just the old yank and crank for correction chains they can be used every so subtly as such a good method of communication since they apply no pressure to the animals face or neck unless you wish to communicate something, just like you're doing with your dog - you're pushing the limits of acceptable behavior.

a collective AWWWWWW :) The face of that lab boy ............... *melt*

[Nekhbet]

a collective AWWWWWW :) The face of that lab boy ............... *melt*

He was such a gem - do you know how long it took me to rehome him?! He was an awesome dog just very big for a lab and middle aged by the time he came to me.

[persephone]

a collective AWWWWWW :) The face of that lab boy ............... *melt*

He was such a gem - do you know how long it took me to rehome him?! He was an awesome dog just very big for a lab and middle aged by the time he came to me.

labs are a funny thing - folks either grab them .. or just aren't interested . I guess middle aged makes a difference.Anyhow - I am SO glad he found a home, and a job .That's such a good story :)

The thing is with labs - so many people expect "guide dog" calmness and obedience ... but don't realise that labs are a whole lotta dog under that winsome smile - and understanding /patience & honesty are needed to produce that.

(just never ever, ever offer me an entire young adult male lab who has been a backyard feature) NEVER AGAIN - I have had some awful experiences with them, poor dogs.

[Jemmy]

Nekhbet - thank you for your post showing some of the dogs you've trained - it was beautiful

[pirate]

http://www.dogmatic.org.uk/ A friend has a couple of these. They don't seem to ride up under the dogs eyes. They also come in leather.

????

[Nekhbet]

I just need a fraction of the power I needed before to hold him!

... fail ...

[BC Crazy]

Gosh Nekhbet, all those great dogs. That Lab got me too. His gorgeous face. Beautiful Mal as well. They would have all been PTS. Amazing work, thanks for sharing :)

As far as these halti's & alike. They are a training AID. They don't train your dog. I have used an Infin-8 with great results. They are my pick of any head halter's. As for needing "power to hold him" :laugh: it's got nothing to do with power or muscle. IMHO If you train a dog to walk on a leash correctly you should be able to walk him holding the lead with your pinky finger. Unless he has other issues going on eg. reactivity or anxiety.

Choker/check chains used correctly work wonderfully well & don't hurt the dog at all. Like any form of equipment, used incorrectly are ineffective & may very well harm the dog.

[Stressmagnet]

Just revisiting this.

I use a check chain on Ernie. He gets a quick pop to the side - not a yank, or a choke but a pop.

Mostly though, he gets cheese twisties for looking at me and not reacting.

Best

Training

Treat

EVER. :D

He still lunges if I don't catch him quick enough but he's beginning to figure out that behaving like a pork chop means he DOESNT get to meet and being calm and looking me means yummies and a bum to sniff.