skip Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 My friend is having problems walking a pretty wild untrained 9 month GSD. I brought her a gentle leader but she managed to let the dog mouth this and its wrecked. I used pa gentle leader but i did notice its rather fine for him. What do people reccommend? I only used one on my kelpie for a while and don‘t use mine now. Is there some type better suited for a big dog The main issue is the dog pulling and rather bad lunging at other dogs. I don’t see this behaviour if i walk with her as much as i take 3 dogs hence the GSD is happy as he is with a pack of 2 and half dogs then. The half being my chihuahua Any advice welcome. Also she is attending training and has seen a behaviourist recently. Dog is not aggressive just untrained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliwake Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I quite like the black dog halti. Seems like a more flexible fit than some other designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esky the husky Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Have you considered one of those front attaching harnesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpiecuddles Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Front attaching harness might work. Also sounds weird but I used to use a miniature horse foal halter on my lab X boxer. Not sure how well it would fit a GSD but it was great for him and the webbing is nice and broad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I have used the Black Dog Infin-8 & I really liked it. It's the only halti type dog gear I would recommend. Works slightly differently to all other halti's. It is a martingle collar with a nose loop. As your pup starts to improve on lead, you can just remove the nose piece. Well worth a look :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaMomma Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I have used the Black Dog Infin-8 & I really liked it. It's the only halti type dog gear I would recommend. Works slightly differently to all other halti's. It is a martingle collar with a nose loop. As your pup starts to improve on lead, you can just remove the nose piece. Well worth a look :) Timely explanation. Was returning to the thread to ask the differences between the Black Dog halters. Off to find a measuring tape. Thank you :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliwake Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I didn't have much success with the infin-8, but I suspect I bought a size too big. A traditional halti is the only way I can manage my freight train lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) The Petlife Halti brand head collar is a different shape to the Gentle Leader so could be worth trying too. If your friend is comfortable using a head collar AND knows how to use it properly I think it would be more useful than a front attach harness on an already pulling GSD. Edited July 25, 2014 by Simply Grand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 There are not various kinds of Halti. There is only one Halti head harness. There are other types of head harnesses but they are not Halti's. For a well designed head harness I would go with a Halti. I think they're the best. A head harness needs to be fitted correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Sizing is very important. Also for success the infin must be adjusted to fit the dogs face correctly. I don't like normal Halti's as the leash attachment is under the nose which tends to pull the dogs nose down wards. The Infins leash attachment is on top of the dogs neck as it is martingale collar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I really think they need to ask a different trainer for some help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Most certainly perse. I would get an expert in to help especially a GHD at 9 mths of age. Extremely important time frame in a dogs maturity. Sorry didn't notice what state this pup was in. If in Vic I would give Nekhbet a call. I was addressing the Halti issue but I too think professional help may be needed. Edited July 25, 2014 by BC Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 We don't actually know what the current trainer and behaviourist have advised though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 A good trainer should help with not only the choice of head harness but the fitting of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) SG...That is why I originally answered about the 'halti'requirment :) Edited July 25, 2014 by BC Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Halti and Infin8 are my personal faves. However, if the dog is constantly chomping on it whilst walking you (they) have other issues e.g. anxious behaviour. The Halti no-pull harness would be the only one I'd fit for a lunging dog because the front strap can connect to the collar, but even then, there is a big risk the dog could jump then lunge and slip one or both front legs out of the harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 A good trainer should help with not only the choice of head harness but the fitting of it. Yes, good point. Skip, do you know if the trainer recommended something? SG...That is why I originally answered about the 'halti'requirment :) I certainly agree now's the time to make sure they have really good help learning to control a GSD! And I do worry about people using a tool like a head collar without understanding all the additional training techniques you need to use with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amax-1 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Also she is attending training and has seen a behaviourist recently Please advise your friend to seek a trainer who is breed experienced with GSD's, that is if you get a sparky male cocky and dominant, there are specific training requirements for young dogs exhibiting that type of behaviour. It's easily fixed, but not with head collars. Is he perhaps a working line GSD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 My friend is having problems walking a pretty wild untrained 9 month GSD. I brought her a gentle leader but she managed to let the dog mouth this and its wrecked. I used pa gentle leader but i did notice its rather fine for him. What do people reccommend? I only used one on my kelpie for a while and don't use mine now. Is there some type better suited for a big dog The main issue is the dog pulling and rather bad lunging at other dogs. I don't see this behaviour if i walk with her as much as i take 3 dogs hence the GSD is happy as he is with a pack of 2 and half dogs then. The half being my chihuahua Any advice welcome. Also she is attending training and has seen a behaviourist recently. Dog is not aggressive just untrained. The lunging makes a head collar entirely unsuitable for this dog. I'd also not recommend a harness - you cannot effectively control a dog if you do not have control of its head. Even worse for larger dogs. Your friend should ask her behaviourist for a recommendation but frankly I'd have the dog on check chain and be doing some intensive training to regain control. I'll take you word for the fact that the dog is not aggressive but a lunging out of control dog is not what I want to meet on my walks ESPECIALLY if it is in a halti or harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The lunging makes a head collar entirely unsuitable for this dog. I'd also not recommend a harness - you cannot effectively control a dog if you do not have control of its head. Even worse for larger dogs.Your friend should ask her behaviourist for a recommendation but frankly I'd have the dog on check chain and be doing some intensive training to regain control. I'll take you word for the fact that the dog is not aggressive but a lunging out of control dog is not what I want to meet on my walks ESPECIALLY if it is in a halti or harness. lunging dogs need training, not over the internet prescribed equipment. Save the money for a good trainer with experience in GSDs like Amax said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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