Simply Grand Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Did they go ahead with speying her Tess? Or are you waiting til she's finished this season? Either way, I agree that it's a good idea to keep feeding them separately and keeping a very close eye on them together for a while yet until all the hormones settle down and they adjust to the pups being gone so you can see how they interact when life goes back to 'normal' :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I wouldn't be so keen to blame the hormones. Bitches in season are not usually aggressive towards males and if they are, it's telling them to bugger off she's not ready to mate. not over food. Unless she cycled every 4 months it would be highly unlikely that she is in season. In a silent season , although you might miss the blood you certainly wouldn't miss a males interest and intentions to mount the bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Many of my bitches still have post whelping discharge at 8-9 weeks! I doubt she was in season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Many of my bitches still have post whelping discharge at 8-9 weeks! I doubt she was in season... yes - that was my first thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosmum Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Many of my bitches still have post whelping discharge at 8-9 weeks! I doubt she was in season... yes - that was my first thought.... It does happen, I've seen it myself in a bitch that had cycled normaly for 5 years. I would trust the vet on this one. Edited July 25, 2014 by moosmum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesslc Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 They went ahead and speyed her - just said there's more risk involved but she's back to her normal self this morning. Since she got home our boy has been very interested. Last time she was in heat she got very snarky at the start with our boy and he wasn't showing any interest in him at all. Now that I think back her behaviour was quite similar I just wasn't expecting her to be in heat again so soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Glad she's speyed ,and home ..now for some R&R while she heals :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesslc Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 We are keeping them separated until she heals - hopefully she will be back to her usual self in a couple of days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpette Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 We are keeping them separated until she heals - hopefully she will be back to her usual self in a couple of days! 10 - 14 days for the stitches to be in. This means 10 - 14 days of rest and restricted exercise or else the stitches rupture. There are both internal and external stitches. Let her rest and heal properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesslc Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Hi guys As an update - since our girl was desexed we've only had one fight - when the dog across the way (also as SBT) approached our fence and our dogs started going crazy - first at that dog and then each other. All bluster and noise thankfully and they calmed down immediately. I spoke to our vet, who has SBTs too, and she said that can happen when they both get worked up as one thinks the other is being aggressive toward them. Anyway our pup is leaving this weekend (is it horrible to say finally lol) so all will be back to normal at home. Also I'm going to start running with our girl and taking her to agility classes in addition to their usual walks. She has A LOT of energy and the vet suggested all her pent up energy could result in her lashing out. In saying this, she has calmed down quite a bit since her op. Eg stopped jumping up on the door while I am preparing food. Gets out/down when told the first time. Fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 thank you for the update :) pent up energy - yes- BUT mental exercise will tire a dog out much more than running - all that does is get them fit & want more ;) Agility- teaching her tricks at home - it all sounds good . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The vet doesn't know what he is talking about. Its more likely because she is telling him its not his job to ward off the other dog but hers as she is in charge. The order is not sorted, and it will continue when situations like this arise unless you get help from someone other than a vet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 You need to do something about your fence to stop the fighting from happening - what if you aren't around and it escalates? Best if any dogs can't see through a fence where there are comings and goings, it can cause barking and draw neighbour complaints but if it causes fighting between 2 dogs then it's important to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 thank you for the update :) pent up energy - yes- BUT mental exercise will tire a dog out much more than running - all that does is get them fit & want more ;) Agility- teaching her tricks at home - it all sounds good . The vet doesn't know what he is talking about. Its more likely because she is telling him its not his job to ward off the other dog but hers as she is in charge. The order is not sorted, and it will continue when situations like this arise unless you get help from someone other than a vet! Yes to both of the above.. Referred aggression is a real problem and will only get worse, unless you address the problem.. You have a problem and 'hoping it all goes back to normal' once the pup goes or the bitch is speyed and healed, is unlikely without training and intervention.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Hi guys As an update - since our girl was desexed we've only had one fight - when the dog across the way (also as SBT) approached our fence and our dogs started going crazy - first at that dog and then each other. All bluster and noise thankfully and they calmed down immediately. I spoke to our vet, who has SBTs too, and she said that can happen when they both get worked up as one thinks the other is being aggressive toward them. Anyway our pup is leaving this weekend (is it horrible to say finally lol) so all will be back to normal at home. Also I'm going to start running with our girl and taking her to agility classes in addition to their usual walks. She has A LOT of energy and the vet suggested all her pent up energy could result in her lashing out. In saying this, she has calmed down quite a bit since her op. Eg stopped jumping up on the door while I am preparing food. Gets out/down when told the first time. Fingers crossed! Your vet's an idiot. It's not pent up energy causing her to "lash out". Redirected aggression often occurs with excitement, fence running and fighting. Exercising her isn't going to help stop her lashing out, all you will end up with is a bitch that is super fit and goes and goes. You need to keep the separate and seek some help from someone who actually knows what they are talking about. You will come home to find one or both of the seriously injured or worse if you choose to do nothing about the aggression now. Stafford bitches can be deadly, been there, seen it and have seen owners and dogs with battle scars and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Redirected aggression is a pretty bad type, when a dog is in a worked up state and lashes out it will go things it would not normally go. Here is what happened to me from a dog that redirected aggression. There was someone at the gate then a fight and someone was trying to break it up and the dog stopped attacking the dog and grabbed me. I still have the scar. If I was a child or had my head closer to the ground I would have been a lot worse off. Don't underestimate the power of redirected aggression. The dog was not mine but went to a behaviourist and is now fine but it wouldn't have been without professional help. Edited August 15, 2014 by mixeduppup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesslc Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Ok I will take on board everyone's comments. I should note our dogs are separated when we are out so no chance of us coming home to a disaster. I am worried they will continue to fight though but there are only limited options for specialist help in our area (we are in NT for some reason my profile keeps defaulting to QLD). There are behavioural classes on a Monday night but I'm not sure how specialised they are ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkabull Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Where in NT are you? I know of a trainer that might be able to help you out. There is also a behavioralist in Alice Springs who comes to Darwin regularly. I gave to say the vets up here are pretty useless and I haven't found one I really like. Another reason to be excited about leaving at the end of the year :) Edited August 15, 2014 by Remarkabull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazyWal Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Hi guys As an update - since our girl was desexed we've only had one fight - when the dog across the way (also as SBT) approached our fence and our dogs started going crazy - first at that dog and then each other. All bluster and noise thankfully and they calmed down immediately. I spoke to our vet, who has SBTs too, and she said that can happen when they both get worked up as one thinks the other is being aggressive toward them. Anyway our pup is leaving this weekend (is it horrible to say finally lol) so all will be back to normal at home. Also I'm going to start running with our girl and taking her to agility classes in addition to their usual walks. She has A LOT of energy and the vet suggested all her pent up energy could result in her lashing out. In saying this, she has calmed down quite a bit since her op. Eg stopped jumping up on the door while I am preparing food. Gets out/down when told the first time. Fingers crossed! Your vet's an idiot. It's not pent up energy causing her to "lash out". Redirected aggression often occurs with excitement, fence running and fighting. Exercising her isn't going to help stop her lashing out, all you will end up with is a bitch that is super fit and goes and goes. You need to keep the separate and seek some help from someone who actually knows what they are talking about. You will come home to find one or both of the seriously injured or worse if you choose to do nothing about the aggression now. Stafford bitches can be deadly, been there, seen it and have seen owners and dogs with battle scars and worse. This post is what you need to read and yes I agree, what terrible advice from your vet My greyhounds adore each other but it's all bets off if another animal can be seen through the fence. What starts out as a fun running along the fence kinda thing soon turns to poo with redirected aggression, my girl still bears an impressive scar from a cat taking an afternoon stroll along the fence line. Edited August 15, 2014 by HazyWal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesslc Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 Where in NT are you? I know of a trainer that might be able to help you out. There is also a behavioralist in Alice Springs who comes to Darwin regularly. I gave to say the vets up here are pretty useless and I haven't found one I really like. Another reason to be excited about leaving at the end of the year :) Hi Remarkabull. We are in Darwin. Any suggestions would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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