Yonjuro Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/latest/a/24284346/breeder-convicted-over-hot-dog/ A WA woman who left a dog in a car on a 38C day has been found guilty of animal cruelty. Adele Culverwell, 65, a dog breeder of Muckenburra near Gingin, was convicted in Perth Magistrates Court on Friday. Her dog Roxy, a two-and-a-half year old Borzoi, has been cared for by the RSPCA since the offence in December 2012. Members of the public had seen the dog locked in a panel van in the car park of the Carousel Shopping Centre in Cannington and complained to the RSPCA. An RSPCA inspector took the dog to a veterinary clinic, where it was diagnosed with heat stroke and had to be treated with cooling techniques and given fluid intravenously. Culverwell was charged after refusing to accept that her actions had caused Roxy considerable suffering and harm, the animal welfare agency said. The case is believed to be the first of its kind in the state. "We welcome the decision of the court today because it sends a clear message to the public - don't leave your dog in a car in warm weather," RSPCA chief inspector Amanda Swift said. "This message has been out there in the public domain for many years and some people are still putting their dogs at risk of serious long-term health problems and even death by cooking them." Last summer, the RSPCA received almost 600 calls about dogs in hot cars. In the vast majority of cases, the people concerned were horrified to learn that they could have seriously harmed or even killed their dog, she said. Ms Swift said Culverwell had refused to rule out doing the same thing again. She will be sentenced on August 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I sincerely hope that poor dog has not been in the RSPCA's kennels since Dec 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yonjuro Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) I sincerely hope that poor dog has not been in the RSPCA's kennels since Dec 2012 Based on the tele news it has!?? Footage showed what I presume to be a staff member running around a park with the dog. It was a beautiful looking dog. Edited June 20, 2014 by Yonjuro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Really, people who are suprised their dog could die if they leave it in a car on a hot day must be missing a few brain cells. An excellent decision by the Magistrate. I hope all states take note and prosecute anyone who leaves a dog in a car in warm weather. As the RSPCA chief inspector said, the message has been out there for years yet people are still putting their dogs at risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpiecuddles Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Hopefully now that she is convicted the dog can be found a nice home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yonjuro Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 Really, people who are suprised their dog could die if they leave it in a car on a hot day must be missing a few brain cells. An excellent decision by the Magistrate. I hope all states take note and prosecute anyone who leaves a dog in a car in warm weather. As the RSPCA chief inspector said, the message has been out there for years yet people are still putting their dogs at risk. Agreed! Unfortunately the dog continues to suffer as the woman wants to appeal and I suppose the dog can't go to a new home yet!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I sincerely hope that poor dog has not been in the RSPCA's kennels since Dec 2012 Me too. I can see a need to keep a dog for evidentiary purposes to a certain point but presumably by now there's nothing keeping the dog would contribute. Suppose if she thinks she has a chance on appeal and she wants to recover the dog it would make a kind of sense, but I would much rather see the dog homed somewhere. Also, considering it was a 38C day, I'm guessing the chance of a successful appeal is not going to be very high. Honestly, I have no idea what people are thinking or not thinking, the picture with the ribbons on the cargo barrier sends a terrible message about dog show people. We should know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuralPug Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I cannot understand why the dog has to remain impounded while the court case drags on...if RSPCA(WA) charges daily impound fees that they expect to recoup once the case has been settled, then even if the owner was found not guilty (unlikely), the chances of her being able to afford 18 months of impound fees accruing are slim to none. She would than have to sue the prosecutors to try and recoup impound fees and the whole thing would drag on further... Surely domestic pets could be granted the same rights as children in this sort of circumstance and be placed in a long term foster home or with an approved relative while the wheels of justice grind their exceedingly slow way round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) If she is a registered breeder with the canine association in WA will they cancel her membership ? ETA she deserves first prize for moronic stupidity. Edited June 20, 2014 by Christina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 If she is a registered breeder with the canine association in WA will they cancel her membership ? From the DogsWest Regulations: A9. REFUSAL OF MEMBERSHIP Notwithstanding that any person, firm, company or association may satisfy the conditions of eligibility for membership, the Council may at its discretion refuse any application for membership or terminate any membership provided that Council is satisfied that the applicant or member has a history of cruelty to animals, without assigning any reason for such refusal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I cannot understand why the dog has to remain impounded while the court case drags on...if RSPCA(WA) charges daily impound fees that they expect to recoup once the case has been settled, then even if the owner was found not guilty (unlikely), the chances of her being able to afford 18 months of impound fees accruing are slim to none. She would than have to sue the prosecutors to try and recoup impound fees and the whole thing would drag on further... Surely domestic pets could be granted the same rights as children in this sort of circumstance and be placed in a long term foster home or with an approved relative while the wheels of justice grind their exceedingly slow way round? I don't know enough to comment on specifics but I don't think the RSPCA has much choice but to seize the dog in order to prosecute. The problem is they don't own the dog so it has to be held in their temporary custody and can't be fostered out. I have had this discussion a few times with the view of doing some research into the behaviour and welfare of seized dogs. And no - domestic pets unfortunately have very few rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) I cannot understand why the dog has to remain impounded while the court case drags on...if RSPCA(WA) charges daily impound fees that they expect to recoup once the case has been settled, then even if the owner was found not guilty (unlikely), the chances of her being able to afford 18 months of impound fees accruing are slim to none. She would than have to sue the prosecutors to try and recoup impound fees and the whole thing would drag on further... Surely domestic pets could be granted the same rights as children in this sort of circumstance and be placed in a long term foster home or with an approved relative while the wheels of justice grind their exceedingly slow way round? I don't know enough to comment on specifics but I don't think the RSPCA has much choice but to seize the dog in order to prosecute. The problem is they don't own the dog so it has to be held in their temporary custody and can't be fostered out. I have had this discussion a few times with the view of doing some research into the behaviour and welfare of seized dogs. And no - domestic pets unfortunately have very few rights. Yes, if the owner won't surrender the dog to the RSPCA I don't think they can hand it over to someone else's custody (foster) and they certainly can't permanently rehome it to someone until the court process is finalised. I can understand as an owner not wanting to surrender your dog if you thought you had a chance of getting it back but it's really putting the dog in a horrible situation to be stuck in a shelter for years Edited June 20, 2014 by Simply Grand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I sincerely hope that poor dog has not been in the RSPCA's kennels since Dec 2012 Me too. I can see a need to keep a dog for evidentiary purposes to a certain point but presumably by now there's nothing keeping the dog would contribute. Suppose if she thinks she has a chance on appeal and she wants to recover the dog it would make a kind of sense, but I would much rather see the dog homed somewhere. Also, considering it was a 38C day, I'm guessing the chance of a successful appeal is not going to be very high. Honestly, I have no idea what people are thinking or not thinking, the picture with the ribbons on the cargo barrier sends a terrible message about dog show people. We should know better. She also said she can't guarantee that she wouldn't do it again , so I can understand not giving the dog back. Selfish idiot . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinabean Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) If she is a registered breeder with the canine association in WA will they cancel her membership ? From the DogsWest Regulations: A9. REFUSAL OF MEMBERSHIP Notwithstanding that any person, firm, company or association may satisfy the conditions of eligibility for membership, the Council may at its discretion refuse any application for membership or terminate any membership provided that Council is satisfied that the applicant or member has a history of cruelty to animals, without assigning any reason for such refusal. Perhaps they have already? There are no registered Borzoi breeders in WA according to DogsWest's website. Nor any WA breeders listed on Dogzonline. Pretty sure I've met this Borzoi at a specialist clinic. She had been brought in by RSPCA officers. While waiting for my bill to be processed the receptionist mentioned that she was a cruelty case. This was about 12 months ago. Poor girl, I hope she goes to an excellent home soon. Edited: Just found a post I made about it at the time. It was a year ago, not 6 months. Time flies! Edited June 20, 2014 by trinabean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuralPug Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Yes, I understand the position that RSPCA(WA) are in. My post was badly worded. I would like there to be approved foster carers for long term evidential holds much as there are approved foster carers for children in cruelty cases. This would mean changes in the law, not necessarily in the RSPCA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Generally they are boarded at private kennels we have been asked to have dogs here but won't but i do now kennels in the area that have had dogs for years whilst court cases go on I think you will find where not the only state that holds them ,the Tibetan Spaniels in Vic where held until court cases & the bill paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 She rarely showed & not sure if she had any litters if she did it was very rarely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Geez if she wanted her dog back why on earth would you say you couldn't guarantee it wouldn't happen again?????? But really the dog was in distress and needed treatment, if it was infact a tragic mistake, then she should have been distraught and damn certain she wouldn't do it again! I have no idea who it is but geez, you have to wonder about some people! I hope they are caring for her coat properly so it doesn't get shaved off like some of the Tibetans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I sincerely hope that poor dog has not been in the RSPCA's kennels since Dec 2012 Yes I can state that it was, apart from the times it was allowed to run freely through the Inspectorate eating all it felt like, and growling when people like myself tried to offer it some training in manners. The sores on its sides from the kennels IMHO were worse than the effects on being in a car, which I may add lead to the dog being kenneled that very night at RSPCA kennels. I really disagree that the media was given a photo if the dog with SHOW ribbons in the car ( this is just typical of the RSPCA) and their slant on breeders, plenty of other photos to use re the dog, shame on the RSPCA again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaMomma Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 If she is a registered breeder with the canine association in WA will they cancel her membership ? From the DogsWest Regulations: A9. REFUSAL OF MEMBERSHIP Notwithstanding that any person, firm, company or association may satisfy the conditions of eligibility for membership, the Council may at its discretion refuse any application for membership or terminate any membership provided that Council is satisfied that the applicant or member has a history of cruelty to animals, without assigning any reason for such refusal. Perhaps they have already? There are no registered Borzoi breeders in WA according to DogsWest's website. Nor any WA breeders listed on Dogzonline. Pretty sure I've met this Borzoi at a specialist clinic. She had been brought in by RSPCA officers. While waiting for my bill to be processed the receptionist mentioned that she was a cruelty case. This was about 12 months ago. Poor girl, I hope she goes to an excellent home soon. Edited: Just found a post I made about it at the time. It was a year ago, not 6 months. Time flies! In 2012, she was 32nd in the Borzoi Breed Challenge List Aust Ch Chogori Kangtega (WA) (Ms A Culverwell) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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