Zereuloh Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 http://www.couriermail.com.au/lifestyle/hayley-sulley-and-della-woodss-dog-charlie-ate-neighbour-clifford-clarke-alive-after-being-neglected/story-fnixw28g-1226943651370 Does anyone else find it difficult to believe that a dog that has gone without food for two days would eat someone alive?!? This seems a rather extreme reaction, I would think something else has gone on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 More likely that the dog attacked the man to get the cooking lamb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion 01 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Sounds like it had more problems than just being hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zereuloh Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Sounds like it had more problems than just being hungry. My thoughts exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Oh Dear - at least dog is now in a better place . R I P poor old neighbour man . No more pain . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I think the "eating" bit is a media beat up. I don't hold with BSL in any way, shape or form but I have to say there are a few breeds I'm not sorry aren't here in Australia to be crossed and owned by people with SFA knowledge or ability to manage them. The Presa is a case in point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poochmad Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Man, that story reads like a tabloid...sounds like the dog was in a 'red zone' and didn't know what it was doing. I can't believe that it would act like that after not eating for 45 hours. Sounds to me the owners set this dog up...eating plastic bowls?? It was probably playing or could have been chewing on it to get food off...who knows. Sad about the neighbour regardless. Would have been very frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Just another vicious dog attack in a beat up article by the media. The dog would have had more major issues than a bit hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I think the "eating" bit is a media beat up. I don't hold with BSL in any way, shape or form but I have to say there are a few breeds I'm not sorry aren't here in Australia to be crossed and owned by people with SFA knowledge or ability to manage them. The Presa is a case in point. Yip. I don't want existing dogs killed, but I'm not keen on this breed being introduced to Australia. If it is the one I'm thinking of , then human aggression is in the breed standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) I think the "eating" bit is a media beat up. I don't hold with BSL in any way, shape or form but I have to say there are a few breeds I'm not sorry aren't here in Australia to be crossed and owned by people with SFA knowledge or ability to manage them. The Presa is a case in point. Yip. I don't want existing dogs killed, but I'm not keen on this breed being introduced to Australia. If it is the one I'm thinking of , then human aggression is in the breed standard. Presa standard says "suspicious of strangers". Crossbred with God knows what and in the hands of morons, you are likely to have a lot of dog. The Fila Standard specifies "aloof with strangers". Both standards penalise aggression but I think its the Fila that judges are never to touch. Both should be "bold". A very big dog with no social skills and no boundaries that's "bold" ... no thanks. Edited June 5, 2014 by Haredown Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I wonder what the truth is about how long it was since this dog was fed. My guess is it was a long longer than 45 hours. Poor dog had neglectful moronic owners. I hope they never get another dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I think the "eating" bit is a media beat up. I don't hold with BSL in any way, shape or form but I have to say there are a few breeds I'm not sorry aren't here in Australia to be crossed and owned by people with SFA knowledge or ability to manage them. The Presa is a case in point. Yip. I don't want existing dogs killed, but I'm not keen on this breed being introduced to Australia. If it is the one I'm thinking of , then human aggression is in the breed standard. Presa standard says "suspicious of strangers". Crossbred with God knows what and in the hands of morons, you are likely to have a lot of dog. The Fila Standard specifies "aloof with strangers". Both standards penalise aggression but I think its the Fila that judges are never to touch. Both should be "bold". A very big dog with no social skills and no boundaries that's "bold" ... no thanks. I think Megan is possibly thinking of the Fila Brasileiro? Breeders breed for "Ojeriza", some take it too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I seem to recall it was Marjorie Knoller's two Presas, Hera and Bane, that killed Diane Whipple in San Francisco 13 years ago which set off the present 'Dangerous Dog' hysteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Is there a bad journalism award that can be given to that article. Nothing about it is credible. It doesn't even give the date the thing happened! Could have been years ago and dragged up to spice up a slow news day. "Gary Simpson, senior crown prosecutor with the Mersey-Cheshire Crown Prosecution Service, said Sulley and Woods should have time to reflect on their actions." So what happened? Did they get fined? Jail time? What were they found guilty of? Or did they get let off on the basis that thinking about the awful day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 spectacular headline but not exactly believable, but how distressing for the relatives of the poor victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zereuloh Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Is there a bad journalism award that can be given to that article. Nothing about it is credible. It doesn't even give the date the thing happened! Could have been years ago and dragged up to spice up a slow news day. "Gary Simpson, senior crown prosecutor with the Mersey-Cheshire Crown Prosecution Service, said Sulley and Woods should have time to reflect on their actions." So what happened? Did they get fined? Jail time? What were they found guilty of? Or did they get let off on the basis that thinking about the awful day. They got 12 months in jail I believe. Guilty of Animal cruelty. I'd never heard of a Presa until this article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffikki Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) Is there a bad journalism award that can be given to that article. Nothing about it is credible. It doesn't even give the date the thing happened! Could have been years ago and dragged up to spice up a slow news day."Gary Simpson, senior crown prosecutor with the Mersey-Cheshire Crown Prosecution Service, said Sulley and Woods should have time to reflect on their actions."So what happened? Did they get fined? Jail time? What were they found guilty of? Or did they get let off on the basis that thinking about the awful day. In the article it says TWO women have been jailed for a year after their neighbour was “literally eaten alive” by their hungry dog. :)I remember reading about this when it happened(about a year ago)here's a link to the old thread My link And the original story from a different website, than in that thread My link ETA posted the same time as Zereuloh Edited June 5, 2014 by raffikki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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