kwirky Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Hi, We had an in home dog trainer mention the possibility of having the 2nd and 3rd vaccinations done at the same time. The benefit of this would be that we can start exercising and socializing our Golden, Murphy, properly. Has anyone heard of this or has any experiences with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdashdot Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I haven't had 2 done at once, but I have however had the Nobivac for my youngest dog which is effectively an early finisher. My girl had it at 11 weeks and that was it for vaccs, she was fine with it. Socializing wise, I was taking my pup out from 8 weeks *in my arms* to meet humans and also to my parents house which I knew was a parvo free zone, to socialize with their dogs. I also took her to our very quiet beach below the tide line, which in my opinion is one of the safer places to take a pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Hi, We had an in home dog trainer mention the possibility of having the 2nd and 3rd vaccinations done at the same time. The benefit of this would be that we can start exercising and socializing our Golden, Murphy, properly. Has anyone heard of this or has any experiences with this? Get another trainer. Your pup doesn't need exercising and you can socialize in other ways. Why would anyone suggest doubling up on vaccine's, ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaMomma Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Hi, We had an in home dog trainer mention the possibility of having the 2nd and 3rd vaccinations done at the same time. The benefit of this would be that we can start exercising and socializing our Golden, Murphy, properly. Has anyone heard of this or has any experiences with this? Holy cr*p............ that is not the correct protocol. A puppy the size of Murphy does not need exercising per se. He needs to learn how to behave. At the very least ask your Vet. Not advice I would ever consider and never have. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Hi, We had an in home dog trainer mention the possibility of having the 2nd and 3rd vaccinations done at the same time. The benefit of this would be that we can start exercising and socializing our Golden, Murphy, properly. Has anyone heard of this or has any experiences with this? Holy cr*p............ that is not the correct protocol. A puppy the size of Murphy does not need exercising per se. He needs to learn how to behave. At the very least ask your Vet. Not advice I would ever consider and never have. Good Luck I am glad you are asking about this - it does not seem wise advice .. hold off ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Doubling up is not beneficial. Some vaccines are registered for an early finish at10 weeks,which means pups only receive 2 vaccinations Talk to your vet about the suitability of this. It often depends on area, infection rates etc. In a high parvo area I would advise the last vaccination finishing at 14-16 weeks (ie the full 3 puppy vaccination course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwirky Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 Thank you all for your replies. We are going to the vet this week so will raise this with them. Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaMomma Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Thank you all for your replies. We are going to the vet this week so will raise this with them. Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Very safe idea. Good Luck and photos when you can of Murphy please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Ideally you should ask your breeder & your puppy vacc card will tell you this infor . As for doubling up a Vacc i have never heard anyone say this Alot depends on what the trainer means about "start exercising" ?? Does he mean little walks out the front for lead training & seeing the world or something else. All my large breed pups walk on lead to the house next door from 8 weeks,they get to see cars & anything esle out the front,we also wonder around the front garden & sit there . Again though your breeder would have discussed exercising the pup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) Never heard of it and would never do it. That is not the way vaccines work so it wouldn't help anyway. Trainers should stick to training! Edited May 4, 2014 by Dame Aussie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwirky Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwirky Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Edited May 4, 2014 by kwirky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwirky Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 With relation to exercising, she said he needs to start at about 15 mins and work up to an hour. We had been taking him around the court we live on however she said to stop this due to the vacs. We have taken him to Petbarn a couple of times to meet people and for the car travel and I am taking him in to work for a visit (am on hols at the moment). We will check out puppy school at the vet when we go. Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) You don't want to work up to an hour with a large breed puppy until he is much much older. A basic rule is 5minutes walk per month of age. So at 2 months, 10 minutes, and you probably won't go far if you are practicing loose leash walking. For socialising before vaccinations are done, either go to places that you know are parvo free, or carry him. If you are taking him to pet shops you definitely should not be putting him on the ground. I went to lots of places with my pup when he was young, I just carried him everywhere. Edited May 4, 2014 by LisaCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdashdot Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 An hour for a young pup is way too long, I have a 7 month old and still won't take her out for walks that long. Half an hour is about our longest so far - she gets a lot of free exercise in the backyard. I believe the "rule" is 5 mins per month of age. Training and play in the backyard is more than enough at this young age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 What a gorgeous baby!!! he has such a wise face :) My 2c worth :) Lots of brain work at this stage , so he is very comfortable with communication between you ..settled when he has a lead/collar on , and is happy doing what is asked :) Lots of car rides , both so he gets used to his harness etc , and so you can ..stop at interesting places with teh window open so he can see/hear/smell.... get into a strict routine when you have friends over , as what is cute now - like leaning/bouncing /begging/ sniffing bits of anatomy - may NOT be when he is around 25 kg ! LOL Lots of practicing good manners - like being calm on his bed ...waiting until invited to climb on the couch /car/ whatever . Short sessions of this several times a day should give him stuff to think about - which will both tire him, and strengthen his character - and help get him ready for the WALKS :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 With relation to exercising, she said he needs to start at about 15 mins and work up to an hour. We had been taking him around the court we live on however she said to stop this due to the vacs. We have taken him to Petbarn a couple of times to meet people and for the car travel and I am taking him in to work for a visit (am on hols at the moment). We will check out puppy school at the vet when we go. Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Time to find another trainer as quite frankly this person is an idiot. A larger breed puppy should be exercising off leash and playing while it's grows and develops. Obedience and mind games are great. What they need is a tired mind not an exhausted body. Over exercising a developing pup can lead to joint issues. With regards to vacs, the core vacs at 8 and 12 weeks and another at 15 months and titre test form there. Seriously I'd like to know the name of the trainer, they are a fine example of how it should not be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha bet Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Nobody should recommend both vaccines at once.... are you sure you understood what the trainer meant. the correct protocol is actually 8 week, 12 week and 16 week and then 14 months - the pups Maternal Derived Antibodies actually can kill off the vaccine, trouble is we don't know when the MDA's wear off enough to actually allow the vaccine to be effective, hence the need for the three puppy vaccines - two of the vaccines will be useless but we don't know which. You don't need to just rely on a forum for this information it is freely available : Here are some references they should answer all your questions on vaccine.... suggest you also give this information to your trainer. www.apvma.gov.au/use_safely/vaccination.php from Dr Jean Dodds DVM go to www.itsfortheanimals.com/HEMOPET.HTM also there is more information from two vet sites : www.vetsallnatural.com.au and also www.animaloptions.com.au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwirky Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 Wow. I did not expect these replies however I am so glad I posted the question. The info from the trainer is correct as both hubby and I were there. I will keep what everyone says in mind when we pop in at the vets later this week. Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphra Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 The point of giving three vaccinations is to pick the point in a puppy's immune system where maternal antibodies won't interfere with the immune response prompted by the vaccination. One vaccination will be effective, as long as it is given at that point. Giving three vaccinations over a staggered period of time is just an attempt to hit that spot. Giving two vaccinations at once makes no sense at all, because its not about the amount of vaccine but the timing. That's why adult dogs who come into rescue only need one vaccination - the presumption is that they no longer have maternal antibodies to interfere with the immune response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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