BC Crazy Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Hazy,don't be hard on yourself. I think you are handling this whole totally unfair horror story very well. You have every right to feel the extremes of all your emotions. You & your grey's have been through a traumatic situation. The damage is well & truly done both physically & mentally. This is going to take a lot of time to recover. I'd be a nervous wreck too, no doubt about that. Take care, try & relax as best you can. Things will settle down I'm sure. One day at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazyWal Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 I've had trouble with my internet all day so I'm sorry if I don't reply, stupid thing keeps dropping out. Thanks for the support everyone, your kind words and advice is very much appreciated. Maddie has always been a nervy girl so it's hard to tell any difference at the moment. She's still not allowed to go for walks so it's just sniff around the trees stuff at the moment and lifting her in and out of the car is a bloody struggle with my hand so we are just going out once a day when we usually go twice. She's still looking for Martin the cat when we go out in the yard (and it's not to say hello ) and she propped and gave a pelican a bit of a death stare at the park today so she doesn't seem to be scared of things as such but time will tell I guess. Stanley wagged his tail madly at the pelican and then walked into a tree so yeah...he's still my Stanley lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Be kind to yourself SM - you are probably all still in shock and it is going to take time to heal both physically and emotionally. Do Stan and Maddie have other doggie friends that they associate with? Obviously not yet, while they both still have injuries but once they are physically healed it might be an idea to socialise them with calm and friendly dogs (even if on lead for a while), to help them recover psychologically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 The wounds are healing, Maddie still has another week with the stitches. My foot is still quite sore but the swelling on my hand has gone down a bit. Emotionally I'm struggling, I took the dogs to a different park today where I could see for miles and just let them sniff around for a while but I left the hatch open so I could get them into the car quickly if I saw a dog coming and I was nervous the whole time. I was always nervous and on high alert when I walked them but now I'm just downright shitting myself No one should have to go through this ever. Being scared while trying to enjoy a nice walk with your dogs is crap. Do the dogs seem nervous at all? Frankly it is disgusting that you have to feel like this. If the rangers would do their jobs properly the level of anxiety that you feel would probably descrease 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Oh Stan! What a trooper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I've had trouble with my internet all day so I'm sorry if I don't reply, stupid thing keeps dropping out. Thanks for the support everyone, your kind words and advice is very much appreciated. Maddie has always been a nervy girl so it's hard to tell any difference at the moment. She's still not allowed to go for walks so it's just sniff around the trees stuff at the moment and lifting her in and out of the car is a bloody struggle with my hand so we are just going out once a day when we usually go twice. She's still looking for Martin the cat when we go out in the yard (and it's not to say hello ) and she propped and gave a pelican a bit of a death stare at the park today so she doesn't seem to be scared of things as such but time will tell I guess. Stanley wagged his tail madly at the pelican and then walked into a tree so yeah...he's still my Stanley lol Ahahaha Stan :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazyWal Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 The wounds are healing, Maddie still has another week with the stitches. My foot is still quite sore but the swelling on my hand has gone down a bit. Emotionally I'm struggling, I took the dogs to a different park today where I could see for miles and just let them sniff around for a while but I left the hatch open so I could get them into the car quickly if I saw a dog coming and I was nervous the whole time. I was always nervous and on high alert when I walked them but now I'm just downright shitting myself No one should have to go through this ever. Being scared while trying to enjoy a nice walk with your dogs is crap. Do the dogs seem nervous at all? Frankly it is disgusting that you have to feel like this. If the rangers would do their jobs properly the level of anxiety that you feel would probably descrease 50%. Thanks DD I will never walk the streets in my suburb again, not worth it. My flatmate only said today how she would feel sad when I left at the worry on my face and my usual parting comment of "wish us luck". It is out of control here with people abusing the law and then abusing those that uphold it when asked to leash their dogs. What scares me more and actually makes me feel ill is that because of my pathetic council this WILL happen again. I have no doubt and I can't stop it Thanks Staffyluv much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Maybe when you're feeling better, it's worth annoying your council and other councils that border yours for something like this? There must be other Greyhound and Whippet owners such as yourself who could utilise such a thing. http://www.mappingmanningham.com/org/manningham-greyhound-slipping-track-inc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhok Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Ranger finally called me back from my concerns two days ago and said she rang the woman this morning about not getting a padlock for the gate and the woman said her daughters boyfriend was supposedly fixing the gate this weekend. When I questioned the ranger about the fact that this will be 7 days tomorrow since we were attacked and it's still not fixed she said it's not up to council to continually drive past (and they don't have the time) and see if they have fixed anything they can only advise her and then it's up to her. I told her the old lady with the Lab said they are always out and she said nothing can be done unless the actual people that see the dogs out call, which I knew anyway. She said the Dangerous Dog Dec will take up to a month to be processed and said when the judge looks at it he will say it was too harsh, there have been no previous complaints about the dogs and after all it's not a child That is rubbish, I am so sorry you have to deal with this. It is so frustrating that council rangers don't follow up and enforce things. All it does is just excuse poor behaviour and then when the ante is upped it is "Oh we don't have the powers to enforce that we need more" --Lhok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katdogs Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Skip the rangers, go straight to the top. Yep. Local members for your ward (if you have them), Mayor, General Manager, Animal Companion Manager etc. So sorry you've had such a bad time - but onya Stan for keeping your girls amused! Actually, why can't the council go for Menacing rather than Dangerous? Isn't that the point of having the new rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Skip the rangers, go straight to the top. Yep. Local members for your ward (if you have them), Mayor, General Manager, Animal Companion Manager etc. So sorry you've had such a bad time - but onya Stan for keeping your girls amused! Actually, why can't the council go for Menacing rather than Dangerous? Isn't that the point of having the new rules? Agree with every word of this ^. Why can't the council go for menacing dogs? Keep at them, remember the squeeky wheel gets the most oil? You would think the Ranger could do something about these dogs. I'm not convinced they can't do anything, just concerned that they won't do anything. What exactly are the Ranger's duties? HazyWal my thoughts are with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue & Waldo Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 It might be worth keeping a written record of your contacts with council. I have also confirmed statements they have made..."am I correct in understanding that you are saying..." I then immediately confirm the conversation by email and it can cause panic amongst council officers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Avanti* Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Skip the rangers, go straight to the top. Yep. Local members for your ward (if you have them), Mayor, General Manager, Animal Companion Manager etc. So sorry you've had such a bad time - but onya Stan for keeping your girls amused! Actually, why can't the council go for Menacing rather than Dangerous? Isn't that the point of having the new rules? Agree with every word of this ^. Why can't the council go for menacing dogs? Keep at them, remember the squeeky wheel gets the most oil? You would think the Ranger could do something about these dogs. I'm not convinced they can't do anything, just concerned that they won't do anything. What exactly are the Ranger's duties? HazyWal my thoughts are with you. I also agree with this, thinking of you HazyWal and Maddie and Stan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I would be writing to my local paper with the pics of the injuries. I think the ranger is just being lazy. It seems they have powers but choose when to use them, often in the wrong place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash1 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I was appalled to read through this thread and so very sorry you are going through this Hazywal. I hope you get some resolution soon. As far as walking the dogs in future goes, is there any chance there are some farms/large acreage not too far from you? It was just a thought that, if there were, perhaps you could approach the owners and ask if you would be able to exercise your dogs on their land. I just mention it, as I am a large acreage owner and I know that if someone approached me and explained the situation, I would be more than happy for them to bring two well-behaved dogs for a run once or twice a day. Then you would be safe from any other strange dogs and be able to relax and enjoy your walks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I would be writing to my local paper with the pics of the injuries. I think the ranger is just being lazy. It seems they have powers but choose when to use them, often in the wrong place. They do have to act within their powers though. In this case it means applying to court to get the dangerous dog application approved. The rangers can't just say a dog is a dangerous dog and that is it. Even with the dogs near me the ranger was saying they had to build a case and if any of their evidence was wrong it could get chucked out. It is upsetting that the owner of the dog isn't doing the right thing here. There was another rather aggressive dog on the same road as the dogs that put the guy in hospital and when I walked past next time there was a big shiny chain on his gate. Makes me feel safer. After my dog got attacked I never walked out from my home again. I just didn't feel it was worth the risk. I used to drive to places I felt were safer. My farrier did suggest that I carry a walking stick with a nail poking out of it. I am still quite tense about the breed of dog that did the attacking too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I would be writing to my local paper with the pics of the injuries. I think the ranger is just being lazy. It seems they have powers but choose when to use them, often in the wrong place. They do have to act within their powers though. In this case it means applying to court to get the dangerous dog application approved. The rangers can't just say a dog is a dangerous dog and that is it. In NSW you don't have to apply to the courts to get a DD application approved - rangers CAN just declare a dog dangerous. But they have to ensure they have the evidence of the incident as the owner can appeal the declaration in court if they want to. Can't appeal menacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I would be writing to my local paper with the pics of the injuries. I think the ranger is just being lazy. It seems they have powers but choose when to use them, often in the wrong place. They do have to act within their powers though. In this case it means applying to court to get the dangerous dog application approved. The rangers can't just say a dog is a dangerous dog and that is it. In NSW you don't have to apply to the courts to get a DD application approved - rangers CAN just declare a dog dangerous. But they have to ensure they have the evidence of the incident as the owner can appeal the declaration in court if they want to. Can't appeal menacing. Why is Hazywal saying that the ranger said a judge has to look at the declaration then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I would be writing to my local paper with the pics of the injuries. I think the ranger is just being lazy. It seems they have powers but choose when to use them, often in the wrong place. They do have to act within their powers though. In this case it means applying to court to get the dangerous dog application approved. The rangers can't just say a dog is a dangerous dog and that is it. In NSW you don't have to apply to the courts to get a DD application approved - rangers CAN just declare a dog dangerous. But they have to ensure they have the evidence of the incident as the owner can appeal the declaration in court if they want to. Can't appeal menacing. Why is Hazywal saying that the ranger said a judge has to look at the declaration then? The Ranger is talking about if the owner appeals the declaration in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I would be writing to my local paper with the pics of the injuries. I think the ranger is just being lazy. It seems they have powers but choose when to use them, often in the wrong place. They do have to act within their powers though. In this case it means applying to court to get the dangerous dog application approved. The rangers can't just say a dog is a dangerous dog and that is it. In NSW you don't have to apply to the courts to get a DD application approved - rangers CAN just declare a dog dangerous. But they have to ensure they have the evidence of the incident as the owner can appeal the declaration in court if they want to. Can't appeal menacing. Why is Hazywal saying that the ranger said a judge has to look at the declaration then? The Ranger is talking about if the owner appeals the declaration in court. That is not what Hazywal appears to be saying. She said: Ranger finally called me back She said the Dangerous Dog Dec will take up to a month to be processed and said when the judge looks at it he will say it was too harsh, there have been no previous complaints about the dogs and after all it's not a child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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