Michelleva Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I've been madly googling and pretty much going around in circles. We have a sheltie who we've had since a pup. She's been tested and is sensitive to ivermectin. We also have a foster sheltie who we don't know how sensitive she is to it. So I am going to treat her the same way as our girl. Last night I found a live flea on the foster dog, and alot of flea dirt on ours. I've used sentinel spectrum and had no problems with it. I got some to treat them both, but it says it doesn't kill live fleas. Does anyone know any products that are safe to use, that will kill any live fleas on them. Tomorrow I'll be in a cleaning frenzy washing dogs, beds, blankets etc. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Permoxin :) (NOT if you have cats!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Capstar looks to be ok. But please do your own research on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelleva Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 Permoxin :) (NOT if you have cats!!!) That doesn't work here, I have way too many cats. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliecat Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 We use a combination of sentinel spectrum and capstar which works well for us. That being said we don't have any sensitivities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaMomma Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) Fleas are poop Edited March 29, 2014 by VizslaMomma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denali Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Fleas are poop Fleas are. We just recently had a huge breakout of fleas. So we flea bombed, did what seemed like hundreds of loads of washing, and capstared all our animals. Such a pain. The dogs are flea free, the cats still bring them in now. So a few more days of captsar for them. And we need to find a product that works on the cats prevention.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 There are some natural deterrents as well. Garlic is one. There's a lemon based spray that can be used on bedding etc. Check with Steve (DOL Member) as she knows a fair bit in the natural range (knows a fair bit about lots, in point of actual fact, lol ). The natural side of things won't likely to be effective on its own if there is a big flea problem, but it can help in maintenance and if the flea population is not huge, may be all you need rather than needing to use the chemical based flea treatments, especially as your dog is sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelleva Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 There are some natural deterrents as well. Garlic is one. There's a lemon based spray that can be used on bedding etc. Check with Steve (DOL Member) as she knows a fair bit in the natural range (knows a fair bit about lots, in point of actual fact, lol ). The natural side of things won't likely to be effective on its own if there is a big flea problem, but it can help in maintenance and if the flea population is not huge, may be all you need rather than needing to use the chemical based flea treatments, especially as your dog is sensitive. Thanks for the info. I was wondering if there was anything natural I could use. I'll send Steve a message and see what she recommends. I've got sentinal spectrum here for both of them, I've used that on Georgia before with no problems. But it doesn't kill live fleas, hence my question. I was just thinking I should pick up a flea comb and just give them both a thorough wash and them comb them through. Hopefully if they don't have many I can get rid of the live ones that way. But if I find that they are really infested, I'll need another product that kills live ones. My girl has the biggest coat ever, so combing all the way through is going to be a big job. So thats my plan for today, plus washing all the bedding, cleaning, vacuuming etc. I guess once I know how bad it is, I'll go from there. I'm treating Bonnie, the foster, the same way as my sensitive dog, because I just don't know if she is sensitive to it or not, so its safer to assume she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 why not just use a spot on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 A lot of the spot ons aren't safe for dogs with MDR1 sensitivity. I use sentinel spectrum and capstar on my Aussie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Here's a review of the active ingredients in many flea treatments. http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+2111&aid=598 Ivermectin is most commonly used (with dogs) for heartworm treatment, not for fleas. There are dozens of alternatives. If you want something natural, you might also try diatomaceous earth, which is not on this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Fidos flea free rinse diluted in a spray bottle. Safe for kittens, puppies, even birds and ferrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Permoxin :) (NOT if you have cats!!!) That doesn't work here, I have way too many cats. LOL What are you treating your cats with? Program injections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Wouldn't Advantage be fine? It is imidacloprid not ivermectin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Wouldn't Advantage be fine? It is imidacloprid not ivermectin. This. I don't know anyone who uses ivermec to treat fleas and can't think of any spot on treats that contain it (Advocate does contain moxidectin but that is supposed to be reasonable safe for dogs with the mutated MDR1 gene). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Treat your home & spray all your grounds with Coopex or similar product from fodder store then wash your dogs in some Martha Gardeners Wool Wash diluted & go through them with a flea comb after. Dab some on cotton wool & wipe inside the ears in case any fleas crawl in there when you shampoo. Repeat the next day. I have used this on really young dumped kittens & puppies as I was worried about strong chemicals on them. You can also rub some fennel on them afterwards. Flea deterrent, wont kill them but makes them smell nice. Edited April 2, 2014 by Christina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha bet Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I have a dog with Ivermectin Sensitivity - have been using Advantage when needed - no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karly101 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Advantage or advocate have been tested on a very small amount of MDR1 positive dogs with no side effects as long as given correctly dose to weight. Revolution is the same as long as given only in the dose rate advised.... higher doses or more than every month application (ie. for dogs with demodex mites) is not safe for MDR1 dogs. Also make sure your dog has absolutely no chance of licking the application site as oral ingestion is much more toxic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I have a dog with Ivermectin Sensitivity - have been using Advantage when needed - no problems. That's good to know :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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