Loving my Oldies Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 What was the procedure when dogs were killed? There were a few instances that involved the same bitch (corgi x) and she was not kept on her own until the third fight and third dead dog. After that, all the dogs involved in a fatal fight were separated from others for a number of days and then slowly introduced back into pairs (usually male/female with one clearly the 'boss'). Gosh, that is horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Frankly I preferred the "before" shots. I don't see how putting bow ties on a dog makes it more rehomable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 What was the procedure when dogs were killed? There were a few instances that involved the same bitch (corgi x) and she was not kept on her own until the third fight and third dead dog. After that, all the dogs involved in a fatal fight were separated from others for a number of days and then slowly introduced back into pairs (usually male/female with one clearly the 'boss'). Was she adopted out or PTS? (assuming she was the instigator in pack fights) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybun Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) The promotion got publicity in a major Sunday newspaper, and a golden opprtunity to promote the organisation. If you keep your name out there it must transalate into donations, and increased interest in what you do. After the RSPCA and AWL this rescue would probably get the most publicity in newspapers and magazines, and when a comment is needed from a rescue group then it is usually sourced from this group. Edited March 25, 2014 by honeybun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 What was the procedure when dogs were killed? There were a few instances that involved the same bitch (corgi x) and she was not kept on her own until the third fight and third dead dog. After that, all the dogs involved in a fatal fight were separated from others for a number of days and then slowly introduced back into pairs (usually male/female with one clearly the 'boss'). Was she adopted out or PTS? (assuming she was the instigator in pack fights) I can assure you that she would not have been put to sleep. She may well be out there in the community, I don't know the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfthewords Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 What was the procedure when dogs were killed? There were a few instances that involved the same bitch (corgi x) and she was not kept on her own until the third fight and third dead dog. After that, all the dogs involved in a fatal fight were separated from others for a number of days and then slowly introduced back into pairs (usually male/female with one clearly the 'boss'). Was she adopted out or PTS? (assuming she was the instigator in pack fights) I can assure you that she would not have been put to sleep. She may well be out there in the community, I don't know the dog. She was recently fostered (possibly adopted). It popped up on my facebook feed. Other dogs who killed acting on their own without pack involvement were also adopted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I thought they would have sorted out that sort of stuff after the first incident, and had policies in place I saw some attacks too and two dogs playing tug of war with another when I volunteered there 14 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I thought they would have sorted out that sort of stuff after the first incident, and had policies in place I saw some attacks too and two dogs playing tug of war with another when I volunteered there 14 years ago. It was my belief which I expressed regularly and vehemently that any dog that killed another, should be euthanased and not rehomed as it posed a risk to other dogs. I don't believe anyone would want to adopt a dog that had done this and don't imagine that this fact is disclosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfthewords Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I thought they would have sorted out that sort of stuff after the first incident, and had policies in place I saw some attacks too and two dogs playing tug of war with another when I volunteered there 14 years ago. It was my belief which I expressed regularly and vehemently that any dog that killed another, should be euthanased and not rehomed as it posed a risk to other dogs. I don't believe anyone would want to adopt a dog that had done this and don't imagine that this fact is disclosed. And that doesn't even account for the dogs who have repeatedly bitten handlers and staff and are almost unhandleable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 So, like with PR, these things are well known, presumably not rumour (?), and yet they just continue on their merry way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyCamper Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 So, like with PR, these things are well known, presumably not rumour (?), and yet they just continue on their merry way? How does stuff like this get overlooked I dont understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'm afraid it's not just PR Sheridan. Dogs are renamed, moved on. Most of it happens quietly, not in shelters with numerous witnesses. The term 'No Kill' being taken literally and the reluctance to cop criticism from OTT supporters when dogs should be PTS is responsible for this. People completely freak out when otherwise healthy dogs have to be euthed. But if you ask them if they want the dog in their backyard with their dogs and their children .... no way. Pounds also feel the pressure of public demand and activists. Sad. I don't know what to say about the comments above but it's not limited to one rescue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyCamper Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'm afraid it's not just PR Sheridan. Dogs are renamed, moved on. Most of it happens quietly, not in shelters with numerous witnesses. The term 'No Kill' being taken literally and the reluctance to cop criticism from OTT supporters when dogs should be PTS is responsible for this. People completely freak out when otherwise healthy dogs have to be euthed. But if you ask them if they want the dog in their backyard with their dogs and their children .... no way. Pounds also feel the pressure of public demand and activists. Sad. I don't know what to say about the comments above but it's not limited to one rescue. I dont understand because if a rescue told me that a dog who was an escape artist and so dog aggressive that he killed dogs had to be put to sleep after trying to rehab them didnt work I would think more highly of that rescue. When did no kill become so out of control? No kill is to me no rehomeable dog is put down, not every dog is let loose into society even when a danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpiecuddles Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Yup, my local rescue says they are 'no kill for healthy rehomable dogs", they make no promises for dogs that are very ill and can't be reasonably treated or not considered rehomable for serious behavioural reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I thought they would have sorted out that sort of stuff after the first incident, and had policies in place I saw some attacks too and two dogs playing tug of war with another when I volunteered there 14 years ago. It was my belief which I expressed regularly and vehemently that any dog that killed another, should be euthanased and not rehomed as it posed a risk to other dogs. I don't believe anyone would want to adopt a dog that had done this and don't imagine that this fact is disclosed. And that doesn't even account for the dogs who have repeatedly bitten handlers and staff and are almost unhandleable. Yep I saw a couple of those too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The task of having to take a dog to be euthed that you have tried to work with and become attached to is the reality of reputable rescue... it's not all sweetness and roses and feel good vibes all of the time... ... but some rescues will try to "save" everything with a pulse... *sigh* T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 So, like with PR, these things are well known, presumably not rumour (?), and yet they just continue on their merry way? How does stuff like this get overlooked I dont understand. It isn't overlooked, but some people are considered untouchable. Who is going to take action or try to change a mindset that is set in stone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I would hope that those who have proof of these things would take it to the RSPCA/AWL or the relevant government agency but it seems not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolineh1 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Quality of life is far more important than quantity of lives.. Some horror stories from there for sure Edited March 25, 2014 by carolineh1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) I would hope that those who have proof of these things would take it to the RSPCA/AWL or the relevant government agency but it seems not. Most of it is kept secret. Just before I left there were 2 or 3 deaths - all explained away to me as if it was perfectly reasonable for these things to occur. I was very angry, I didn't find it at all acceptable and said so and it was one of the reasons I left. I'm sure there were far more deaths than I knew about - reading the comments above. Edited March 25, 2014 by dogmad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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