apocalypsepwnie Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 So I've discussed previously about the fencing at my house. Vinnie is totally not interested in getting out and the next door kids have stopped their visiting. The problem we have is the other neighbour's aussie bulldog. While completely adorable and really enjoys Vinnie's company he has some resource guarding problems. Can't say I blame him. We have a chain link fence which the previous dog used to scale, get into the other dog's yard and pinch his goodies. This has had a significant impact on the aussie bulldog. Whenever Vinnie approaches the fence with a toy or treat, the dog will contort himself into whatever position possible to snatch the item away. Somehow, not sure at all becase he doesn't fit under the fence and I've seen his earnest but pathetic attempts to get over it, the aussie got into our yard the other day and I was alerted by different barking than I've heard before. The aussie had gotten into the yard and had pinched the pig's ear, he was making very aggressive movements towards Vinnie and even went for the head a few times. I removed Vinnie from the yard immediately and went to alert the neighbours. I was not going to approach the dog again with the food and left a note for them to remove him from my yard when they returned. The tenants have reported the fence to the landlord who is going to take it up my with landlord and in the mean time we are plugging all holes with bricks and reinforcing the wire along the poles at every point. We still can't work out how he got in. I'm worried he'll return when I'm not home but have removed all food items from the yard. Vinnie is happy to share and wont chase for toys but will for food, he doesn't chase to get it back but more of a game. He doesn't approach the item until the other dog has walked away. He has NEVER chased another dog's ball or his toy when another dog has it. He also doesn't get upset when his toys have all made it over to the other yard. I'm worried he'll attack Vinnie and the neighbour not take responsibilty. They seem to feel I shouldn't allow Vinnie to have toys if he's going to leave them near the fence but how can I train him not to do that? They always throw them back over but I can't get in there to get them back if they aren't home in case the other dog gets aggressive as I need to climb the fence. IMO my fault if I get bitten climbing a fence without the owner present. Would I be right in talking to them about the issue and warning them so they are aware their dog could attack my dog and he has resource issues? Is it also my fault that their dog will bark loudly through the fence at Vinnie even if he's not near it? It annoys their baby. Vinnie has only barked that I've heard when the bulldog has pinched a food treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypsepwnie Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 Oh and my yard has 6-10 different rotating toys at any one time. Made up of bought things and other random junk he likes such a massive bits of bark and water bottles. His favourite right now is a dustpan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 No idea who's fault but I'd be talking to your landlord as well. Or just fixing it and footing the bill. That's not on at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypsepwnie Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 I'm on friendly terms with my landlord and they'd be horrified if my dog got attacked. I'd doubt that I'd have to foot the bill for it. I think it's more of a negotiation between both landlords, as my neighbours are tenants, who should foot the bill of fixing or replacing a fence when it's the tenant's dog causing the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Absolutely unacceptable that their dog is able to get into your yard and potentially harm your dog! Both you and your neighbours need to take immediate action to rectify this and remove the risk of harm to either dog. Surely the chain wire can be covered with mesh or something similar to prevent the dogs seeing each other and also to prevent one climbing over? It can't be that hard to work out that it's best if they can't see each other and be set off by something. It's not too expensive and can easily be removed if you are moving out of your rented home. Alternatively the neighbours need to buy a dog run to keep their dog in - this is their responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypsepwnie Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 He certainly couldn't climb. I've watched him try from his side and watched him try getting back in the other day. That's why it's so weird, there are no spaces physically big enough and he couldn't get over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I'm on friendly terms with my landlord and they'd be horrified if my dog got attacked. I'd doubt that I'd have to foot the bill for it. I think it's more of a negotiation between both landlords, as my neighbours are tenants, who should foot the bill of fixing or replacing a fence when it's the tenant's dog causing the issue. Perhaps then it you could get some quotes for them and expedite the process. I'd be moving if they didn't fix it in a very timely manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hankodie Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Eek, sounds scary. Could you cover the fence with shade cloth or something similar in the meantime so the dogs won't be able to see each other while you sort it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 How would he get into the yard then? It's still best to keep the fence covered over. My neighbour's dog accessed my yard on a regular basis over a 2 year period, she's a large dog and luckily for me she was very good with small dogs. This was stopped finally by the neighbour putting up an electric fence after 2 years of trying to make changes in the yard by chopping down all the trees and bushes she'd climb up (she wasn't always trying to get into my yard but wanted to escape anywhere from her yard). For that 2 year period I thought she was getting over the back gate but one day last year I caught her going up a wall and through another part of the fence that I didn't realise she could fit through. She's about 8 now and highly anxious - 2 weeks ago she started chomping on the panel fences and made huge holes that my dogs could get through. Have a good look around - this dog could be getting through a space you can't believe possible, either way it has to be stopped from happening and the fence covered over if he's coming in to get the toys or food he can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Put your dog in the house. Go out with a yummy bone show the other dog the bone. Put down just out of reach of the fence, go hide and watch! Hopefully the dog will then show you how he is getting in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Hopefully both landlords can help with either building a better fence or covering it somehow. Either way, their dog is the one causing an issue, but if I was you I'd keep my dog inside when I wasn't home in case it gets over again and does decide to attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ams Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Could you try putting black plastic along the fence line so the ABD can't see your dog? If it can't see then it may not react and want to get into your yard. It worked for me when I had three Shar Pei and the back neighbour had a standard poodle that was uber hypo and would bark every time it even glimpsed one of my pei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuralPug Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Most garden places have that split bamboo screening - you can attach it to your side of the fence (their dog would probably chew holes in it so definitely your side) as a temporary block while the landlords come to an agreement about the new fence. Or a cheaper but less attractive option might be to source some second-hand roofing iron and attach it horizontally to the fence. Your dog has the right to enjoy toys and foods in his own yard without incursion from your neighbour's dog and vice versa. The current fence is secure enough to keep your dog in, but not the neighbour's dog, and if the two landlords don't come to an agreement about a new solid fence (which is the ideal solution) then your neighbours will have to find some other way to keep their dog in their own yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Is this the 4 ft fence you mentioned in a previous post .If it is irrespective of what is happening i wouldn't trust that height fence anyway with both breeds in question anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypsepwnie Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 He's a really squat aussie, looks more like an english tbh but the owner said he's aussie. I might go with putting a bone out so I can see what he's doing. lol. If I put up any kind of plastic or screening I KNOW Vinnie would kick it to crap. He LOOOOOOOVES tearing at things with his teeth and will snatch at anything flapping or that he can shred. I do have some roofing iron in the yard which I can stick up though. I honestly wish I could throw over an ear - I use the veggie ones - or a bone but he needs to lose weight so I don't want to mess with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I doubt feeding g him would help, honestly. Might just make your yard more appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I might go with putting a bone out so I can see what he's doing. lol. Film it if you can :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypsepwnie Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 He might also be really bored I looked in his yard yesterday and there is nothing there other than the normal food bowls and bed. He gets walked every few days but maybe seeing vinnie with his yard full of fun has upset him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 He might also be really bored I looked in his yard yesterday and there is nothing there other than the normal food bowls and bed. He gets walked every few days but maybe seeing vinnie with his yard full of fun has upset him. sounds as if he is looking to expand his territory/collection ...be very careful..and put up some sort of second fence in your yard . if there is an incident while you are not there ,it could be nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrie Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Is this the 4 ft fence you mentioned in a previous post .If it is irrespective of what is happening i wouldn't trust that height fence anyway with both breeds in question anyway I would put shade cloth along the fence but if it is 4 foot I would suggest doing some kind of extension (either temporary or permanent depending what you and the landlord decide is preferred). If the fencing is not in disrepair then I personally don't think it should be the landlords responsibility to pay to keep your dog safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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