Incidents At The Dog Park :-(

[Tibbie_tabbie]

Sorry this happened to you I find the local ovals tend to be attended by the less trained/managed dogs, whilst the bigger 'parks' such as Yokine in the north (unless it was this park lol) has better behaved dogs and owners. This may be because you can walk on the path around the park, so dogs tend to say hi and then move on. Of course a lot of people stand in the middle of the park and chat, not keeping an eye on what is going on

I hope you can get your pup some good experienced with some older dogs quickly and this experience doesn't scar him.

[RiverStar-Aura]

It's such a horrible thing that people assume that as it's an off lead area that ALL DOGS MUST BE OFF LEAD. I don't know where this mentality came from but it s***s me to tears. No, I do not have to have my dog off lead if I don't want

Sorry your pup was attacked Yonjuro and a thing to remember, if you see a dog you don't know charging towards you, don't be afraid to pick your little guy up. If it means protection then I'm all for picking my dog up.

[Yonjuro]

Sorry this happened to you I find the local ovals tend to be attended by the less trained/managed dogs, whilst the bigger 'parks' such as Yokine in the north (unless it was this park lol) has better behaved dogs and owners. This may be because you can walk on the path around the park, so dogs tend to say hi and then move on. Of course a lot of people stand in the middle of the park and chat, not keeping an eye on what is going on

I hope you can get your pup some good experienced with some older dogs quickly and this experience doesn't scar him.

Thanks TT,

It wasn't Yokine, but I live right next to Yokine, which is the one you are referring to as I wouldn't mine checking it out ? This one was Les Lillyman reserve in North Perth

[Yonjuro]

It's such a horrible thing that people assume that as it's an off lead area that ALL DOGS MUST BE OFF LEAD. I don't know where this mentality came from but it s***s me to tears. No, I do not have to have my dog off lead if I don't want

Sorry your pup was attacked Yonjuro and a thing to remember, if you see a dog you don't know charging towards you, don't be afraid to pick your little guy up. If it means protection then I'm all for picking my dog up.

Thanks RiverStar,

Yeah, I keep thinking of things I could or should have done, but it happened so fast. My 17 week old in nearly 15kg, which I could pick up, but not super fast :)

Having a Husky off lead in a non-enclosed area is not really an option so I suppose on-lead means that he can be more of a target which is a shame but, it is what it is.

There is a little fenced in strictly on lead that we can go to. I have seen the odd off lead dog there but it is pretty safe. When I taking Ronin for a 5:30am walk, I let him have a run around, but I stay near the gate so I can immediately leash him if someone comes by. At 5;30 there is no one there though, except for Tues morning when an old chap does Tai Chi, so we just walk on by and leave him to his peace LOL. At other times 7.00am onwards he is always on lead even if no one is in this little park.

[HazyWal]

Sounds like an average walk around the block here

I don't blame you for going off your nut I do it on a daily basis, there are so many inconsiderate people it's gobsmacking. There is a chi that has moved in down the street from me and I've had one altercation with the young girl and that's the one and only chance she gets from me, especially when I told her not only is the dog running out onto the road with traffic swerving to try and miss it, my muzzled and on lead greyhounds go mental. She told me to get f**ked. I've reported it to council and they weren't interested, much easier for the rangers here to wander around the surf club carpark and slip a ticket under a windscreen than actually do their job.

We are so lucky here having two offleash beaches and a large offleash park all within 2k's but nooooo that's not enough, people think the whole bloody suburb is offleash...so sick of it

I hear ya Hazy,

Ya know a simple apology from people like these when they are in the wrong would go a long way. I would be mortified if my dog was the offender. When the one in the wrong starts up or get abusive it is insult to injury and definitely a red rag to me.

Oh for sure but apologies are far and few between, it apparently becomes all our fault I had a guy a while ago who's SWF (and I'm not bashing small breeds, we've been rushed by all sorts) who after his dog bolted across the oval to snarl and have several nips at my greys legs before he FINALLY caught up with it yell at ME and say "why would you own those sort of dogs that want to kill everything?" WTF, I said "mate, put your dog on a lead it's not hard". Of course my blood pressure was rising fast as he chased this snarling little dog around in circles until he finally caught it and then I find out he didn't even have a lead! He just let it out of the car and off it went. He then told me he was reporting us, yeah go your hardest mate, honestly you can't put brains in statues.

[Yonjuro]

Sounds like an average walk around the block here

I don't blame you for going off your nut I do it on a daily basis, there are so many inconsiderate people it's gobsmacking. There is a chi that has moved in down the street from me and I've had one altercation with the young girl and that's the one and only chance she gets from me, especially when I told her not only is the dog running out onto the road with traffic swerving to try and miss it, my muzzled and on lead greyhounds go mental. She told me to get f**ked. I've reported it to council and they weren't interested, much easier for the rangers here to wander around the surf club carpark and slip a ticket under a windscreen than actually do their job.

We are so lucky here having two offleash beaches and a large offleash park all within 2k's but nooooo that's not enough, people think the whole bloody suburb is offleash...so sick of it

I hear ya Hazy,

Ya know a simple apology from people like these when they are in the wrong would go a long way. I would be mortified if my dog was the offender. When the one in the wrong starts up or get abusive it is insult to injury and definitely a red rag to me.

Oh for sure but apologies are far and few between, it apparently becomes all our fault I had a guy a while ago who's SWF (and I'm not bashing small breeds, we've been rushed by all sorts) who after his dog bolted across the oval to snarl and have several nips at my greys legs before he FINALLY caught up with it yell at ME and say "why would you own those sort of dogs that want to kill everything?" WTF, I said "mate, put your dog on a lead it's not hard". Of course my blood pressure was rising fast as he chased this snarling little dog around in circles until he finally caught it and then I find out he didn't even have a lead! He just let it out of the car and off it went. He then told me he was reporting us, yeah go your hardest mate, honestly you can't put brains in statues.

oh now, that is one that would burst my piston for sure.

[Tibbie_tabbie]

Sounds like an average walk around the block here

I don't blame you for going off your nut I do it on a daily basis, there are so many inconsiderate people it's gobsmacking. There is a chi that has moved in down the street from me and I've had one altercation with the young girl and that's the one and only chance she gets from me, especially when I told her not only is the dog running out onto the road with traffic swerving to try and miss it, my muzzled and on lead greyhounds go mental. She told me to get f**ked. I've reported it to council and they weren't interested, much easier for the rangers here to wander around the surf club carpark and slip a ticket under a windscreen than actually do their job.

We are so lucky here having two offleash beaches and a large offleash park all within 2k's but nooooo that's not enough, people think the whole bloody suburb is offleash...so sick of it

I hear ya Hazy,

Ya know a simple apology from people like these when they are in the wrong would go a long way. I would be mortified if my dog was the offender. When the one in the wrong starts up or get abusive it is insult to injury and definitely a red rag to me.

Oh for sure but apologies are far and few between, it apparently becomes all our fault I had a guy a while ago who's SWF (and I'm not bashing small breeds, we've been rushed by all sorts) who after his dog bolted across the oval to snarl and have several nips at my greys legs before he FINALLY caught up with it yell at ME and say "why would you own those sort of dogs that want to kill everything?" WTF, I said "mate, put your dog on a lead it's not hard". Of course my blood pressure was rising fast as he chased this snarling little dog around in circles until he finally caught it and then I find out he didn't even have a lead! He just let it out of the car and off it went. He then told me he was reporting us, yeah go your hardest mate, honestly you can't put brains in statues.

I can't believe there are people like that out there?! Wtf?!

Can you image the report? Well they had their muzzled dogs on lead and mine ran over..... Hopefully they did 'report' you and got a warning themselves!

[Tibbie_tabbie]

Sorry this happened to you I find the local ovals tend to be attended by the less trained/managed dogs, whilst the bigger 'parks' such as Yokine in the north (unless it was this park lol) has better behaved dogs and owners. This may be because you can walk on the path around the park, so dogs tend to say hi and then move on. Of course a lot of people stand in the middle of the park and chat, not keeping an eye on what is going on

I hope you can get your pup some good experienced with some older dogs quickly and this experience doesn't scar him.

Thanks TT,

It wasn't Yokine, but I live right next to Yokine, which is the one you are referring to as I wouldn't mine checking it out ? This one was Les Lillyman reserve in North Perth

This one is very close to Les Lillyman - about 2 mins away!

It's called Yokine Reserve and is huge - pretty much four multi use fields (sports and on the weekend model aircraft) with a path around them all.

There is also supposedly a fenced in dog park near by (city of Stirling may have it on web page) but no one seems to know about it so I doubt it'll be busy. Maybe you'll get the place to yourself :)

[Yonjuro]

Sorry this happened to you I find the local ovals tend to be attended by the less trained/managed dogs, whilst the bigger 'parks' such as Yokine in the north (unless it was this park lol) has better behaved dogs and owners. This may be because you can walk on the path around the park, so dogs tend to say hi and then move on. Of course a lot of people stand in the middle of the park and chat, not keeping an eye on what is going on

I hope you can get your pup some good experienced with some older dogs quickly and this experience doesn't scar him.

Thanks TT,

It wasn't Yokine, but I live right next to Yokine, which is the one you are referring to as I wouldn't mine checking it out ? This one was Les Lillyman reserve in North Perth

This one is very close to Les Lillyman - about 2 mins away!

It's called Yokine Reserve and is huge - pretty much four multi use fields (sports and on the weekend model aircraft) with a path around them all.

There is also supposedly a fenced in dog park near by (city of Stirling may have it on web page) but no one seems to know about it so I doubt it'll be busy. Maybe you'll get the place to yourself :)

Thanks TT, I think I know the one you are talking about, just didn't know the name. It is quite funny you say no one seems to know because I was in City of Stirling a few weeks ago paying Ronin's rego and I asked if there was any fenced in dog parks in Stirling and she said there weren't and then added, wouldn't that be dangerous for the dogs to be fenced in? Maybe I will explore this further, please let me know if you hear any more about it.

[HazyWal]

Tibbie tabbie they are everywhere. I think people like to blame or justify their dogs behaviour by attacking my one reactive Greyhound because it's easier to blame those bloody greyhounds. The thing that annoys me is Maddie was never reactive until she was harassed by offlead dogs to the point that she is now a nightmare with most dogs. So thanks to irresponsible arseholes I now have a reactive dog AND get abused for their stupidity.

[Brandiandwe]

Tibbie tabbie they are everywhere. I think people like to blame or justify their dogs behaviour by attacking my one reactive Greyhound because it's easier to blame those bloody greyhounds. The thing that annoys me is Maddie was never reactive until she was harassed by offlead dogs to the point that she is now a nightmare with most dogs. So thanks to irresponsible arseholes I now have a reactive dog AND get abused for their stupidity.

(Waves at fellow sufferer). Brandi is now also protective of me thanks to the stupidity of others. So I have two reactive greys and one who also carries on between me and the person screaming abuse at me for having dogs who react poorly to being rushed by others. Thankfully Hermon is bombproof

[dididog]

Yikes that sounds like a very bad experience, I'm glad you're both okay! My puppy is only a bit older than yours and I too worry at our reserve even though it is very nice and big and most people are courteous/are just their to throw a ball not play. I've only had one run in in the 2 months I've been taking her almost every day. We were with a group of owners and dogs all playing nicely when this guy with a maybe 6 month old boxer puppy sat down 50 metres away and let it charge over to our group and I thought oh it's just an excited, poorly controlled puppy but then despite being smaller than Didi it pinned her to the ground and started playing really aggressively and Didi looked extremely unhappy so I ripped the boxer off of her and when it came back for more Didi growled and told it off and it left. But after that Didi was kind of upset and not keen to play so we started leaving and again the boxer tried to harrass Didi as we left so I told it to leave and shoved it in the direction of its owner. Even though my puppy is well behaved I would never let her run across a park up to a large group of unknown dogs for the puppy's safety alone! This is the only run in and she was fine apart from a nick on her ear but I seriously don't get some people's thought process and just assume every dog wants to play with every other dog.

[Tibbie_tabbie]

Urgh! It must also be so hard to work with reactive dogs that need to be muzzled by law. As well as the idiot comments I imagine you also can't use treats easily due to the muzzle?

[HazyWal]

Tibbie tabbie they are everywhere. I think people like to blame or justify their dogs behaviour by attacking my one reactive Greyhound because it's easier to blame those bloody greyhounds. The thing that annoys me is Maddie was never reactive until she was harassed by offlead dogs to the point that she is now a nightmare with most dogs. So thanks to irresponsible arseholes I now have a reactive dog AND get abused for their stupidity.

(Waves at fellow sufferer). Brandi is now also protective of me thanks to the stupidity of others. So I have two reactive greys and one who also carries on between me and the person screaming abuse at me for having dogs who react poorly to being rushed by others. Thankfully Hermon is bombproof

Yeah right back at ya BnW Thankfully Stan is not too worried about the s*&tfight but if he is pushed he will snap. It takes a LOT but sometimes he is just over it, and why not? I am.

[Tibbie_tabbie]

Sorry this happened to you I find the local ovals tend to be attended by the less trained/managed dogs, whilst the bigger 'parks' such as Yokine in the north (unless it was this park lol) has better behaved dogs and owners. This may be because you can walk on the path around the park, so dogs tend to say hi and then move on. Of course a lot of people stand in the middle of the park and chat, not keeping an eye on what is going on

I hope you can get your pup some good experienced with some older dogs quickly and this experience doesn't scar him.

Thanks TT,

It wasn't Yokine, but I live right next to Yokine, which is the one you are referring to as I wouldn't mine checking it out ? This one was Les Lillyman reserve in North Perth

This one is very close to Les Lillyman - about 2 mins away!

It's called Yokine Reserve and is huge - pretty much four multi use fields (sports and on the weekend model aircraft) with a path around them all.

There is also supposedly a fenced in dog park near by (city of Stirling may have it on web page) but no one seems to know about it so I doubt it'll be busy. Maybe you'll get the place to yourself :)

Thanks TT, I think I know the one you are talking about, just didn't know the name. It is quite funny you say no one seems to know because I was in City of Stirling a few weeks ago paying Ronin's rego and I asked if there was any fenced in dog parks in Stirling and she said there weren't and then added, wouldn't that be dangerous for the dogs to be fenced in? Maybe I will explore this further, please let me know if you hear any more about it.

I just checked the Stirling website and it's on there (lol - guess the lady you spoke to doesn't usually work on the dog area ; p)

http://www.stirling.wa.gov.au/resident/services/animals-and-pets/dogs/pages/dog-exercise-areas-and-beaches.aspx

[tdierikx]

I have a dog that is timid of people she hasn't met before, and will bark and carry on and hide behind me... but she's plenty happy to be approached by strange dogs... go figure?

I would have the backward dog, wouldn't I?

T.

[Guest hankodie]

These dog owners are literally everywhere. EVERYWHERE. They outnumber the sensible, responsible and educated dog owners by a long shot.

There is one man who walks his little dog without a lead every afternoon where I live. He follows it around while it trots along ahead of him. I've seen this dog dart across the road more than a handful of times now yet I have not once since it on a leash. Every time I come across the owner when I'm out walking my 2 he gives me a smug look, like he's so clever that he's walking his dog off lead while both of mine are leashed. He walks this dog along busy roads and I swear it's just an accident waiting to happen. Drives me nuts.

Don't get me started on my local park/oval where I take Hank. SWFs and little dogs love to target him - not having a go at little dogs, I own one myself, but for some reason a lot of the SWF owners I encounter here are idiots who have never heard of a leash before. I had one charge Hank a few days ago (in an area where dogs were supposed to be on lead). The lady took her sweet time coming over and she laughed because Hank was hiding behind my legs while I was trying to pick up her snarling dog to keep it from attacking mine. When I called her out on it her retort was "what do you care, my dog couldn't do a thing to yours he's so small! YOUR dog on the other hand could do a lot of damage, you should be careful. If he's so unfriendly you shouldn't bring him to places with other dogs". Unbelievable.

Sorry for going OT - I agree with the obedience club advice Yonjuro, they are a great place to go for some controlled socialisation and it's a much safer setting than a dog park. I'm sorry you had such a terrible experience with Ronin, hopefully he bounces back and forgets all about it!

[Yonjuro]

Sorry this happened to you I find the local ovals tend to be attended by the less trained/managed dogs, whilst the bigger 'parks' such as Yokine in the north (unless it was this park lol) has better behaved dogs and owners. This may be because you can walk on the path around the park, so dogs tend to say hi and then move on. Of course a lot of people stand in the middle of the park and chat, not keeping an eye on what is going on

I hope you can get your pup some good experienced with some older dogs quickly and this experience doesn't scar him.

Thanks TT,

It wasn't Yokine, but I live right next to Yokine, which is the one you are referring to as I wouldn't mine checking it out ? This one was Les Lillyman reserve in North Perth

This one is very close to Les Lillyman - about 2 mins away!

It's called Yokine Reserve and is huge - pretty much four multi use fields (sports and on the weekend model aircraft) with a path around them all.

There is also supposedly a fenced in dog park near by (city of Stirling may have it on web page) but no one seems to know about it so I doubt it'll be busy. Maybe you'll get the place to yourself :)

Thanks TT, I think I know the one you are talking about, just didn't know the name. It is quite funny you say no one seems to know because I was in City of Stirling a few weeks ago paying Ronin's rego and I asked if there was any fenced in dog parks in Stirling and she said there weren't and then added, wouldn't that be dangerous for the dogs to be fenced in? Maybe I will explore this further, please let me know if you hear any more about it.

I just checked the Stirling website and it's on there (lol - guess the lady you spoke to doesn't usually work on the dog area ; p)

http://www.stirling.wa.gov.au/resident/services/animals-and-pets/dogs/pages/dog-exercise-areas-and-beaches.aspx

Bewdy, thanks for that! I will check it out solo and see what its like for sometime in the future hopefully.

[HazyWal]

I have a dog that is timid of people she hasn't met before, and will bark and carry on and hide behind me... but she's plenty happy to be approached by strange dogs... go figure?

I would have the backward dog, wouldn't I?

T.

Yes but you don't have a muzzled dog T.

[Brandiandwe]

As for muzzles, it is possible to wedge treats through them. It's the only way I've found of redirecting Paige's prey drive. She would fixate, whine, shake, give this completely unearthly noise which made my hair stand up, then explode on the end of the leash barking and leaping. All this while the other dog was the other end of the oval. I discovered that when she fixated and whined, her mouth was open just a little and, if I was quick, jerky could be firmly wedged through the muzzle and between her teeth. This prevented her from escalating if I was quick enough and if it was chewy enough, she had something to do while watching the dog. Now, she tends to go to prancing, dancing and capering on the end of the leash, with a quick eye flick at me and occasionally a quick bark to hurry me up with the treats. It's more of a game but I still would never trust her off leash, or Brandi either.

So I'm very sympathetic with everyone here. I work damn hard to keep my dogs away from others and to socialise them where possible. We manage with some dogs, but there's one locally that all if mine dislike because of the rushing, but the owner is oblivious. Then I'm in the position of having to sort mine out because of them.

Mind you, when people shout out 'Don't worry! He's friendly!' the response 'But mine aren't!' tends to focus their attention, especially when the girls get going. And they settle as soon as the rusher is about ten feet away.