persephone Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) earlier today I was sitting outside with the pups ..and thought I'd try something. I don't talk to dogs much , except if I want something, or to praise them - so it wasn't such a change ...anyhow , these two know that they do not get patted unless they are sitting - so that's done (most times) .... now Ess is getting very quick at raising a paw to my hand, when it is presented - then she gets patted .Don has been poking my hand with his nose to get his pat - all without a collar, word, or a piece of food - both of them with me together , with other dogs meandering past ....They were just so calm - I may try more like this - very pleasant indeed! Think it is each of us teaching the other ;) They both got a big reward - lying in my arms like babies ..and nodding off for a few minutes ;) the victims of the experiment .... Edited February 26, 2014 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teekay Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 earlier today I was sitting outside with the pups ..and thought I'd try something. I don't talk to dogs much , except if I want something, or to praise them - so it wasn't such a change ...anyhow , these two know that they do not get patted unless they are sitting - so that's done (most times) .... now Ess is getting very quick at raising a paw to my hand, when it is presented - then she gets patted .Don has been poking my hand with his nose to get his pat - all without a collar, word, or a piece of food - both of them with me together , with other dogs meandering past ....They were just so calm - I may try more like this - very pleasant indeed! Think it is each of us teaching the other ;) They both got a big reward - lying in my arms like babies ..and nodding off for a few minutes ;) Is this their reward or yours? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Is this their reward or yours? definitely theirs! :p :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 There is some research on dogs and learning and responses to human contact and it is certainly effective. It depends on how motivated the dog is of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 ..yes, it's interesting , as our workers are , as a rule, not overly patted etc like a pet house/lap dog - so they see it as a pretty special thing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifecta Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 ..yes, it's interesting , as our workers are , as a rule, not overly patted etc like a pet house/lap dog - so they see it as a pretty special thing . I first started formal obedience 26 years ago with a rescue BC x Kelpie. She didn't like corrections from a check chain so I trained her on a flat collar with praise & pats. There was no talk of food or toy motivation back then.....as many of you will remember! But, do you know, she went the furthest of any of my dogs in obedience! Maybe it was because she was an only dog & I had more time? Maybe I had more time because I was younger & not weighed down by responsibility?! Anyway perse, thanks for reminding me about an awesome dog! And, by the way.....those pups are gorgeous :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Glad you have some good memories, trifecta :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Lovely Pers. I think what's true too is that we're starting a step ahead (or can be) when we have a working breed which as part of generations of breeding has been selected for willingness, even eagerness to work with the human. I find with the BCs, as long as they're doing stuff with me, they don't care what the 'stuff' is - our attention alone is rewarding - the pats and so on are a bit of a bonus - a very nice bonus - and only fair in my view to pay them well when they're doing what are essentially tricks for us, but there seems to be an inherent desire to work. Love your little guys! Look at that attention :D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 I think that is true. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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