Teeth Cleaning

[nativemetal]

Hi

I have a 7 year old Sheltie, she has already had several teeth extracted due to an apparent genetic issue so the vet tells me, her teeth have been cleaned by the vet twice in a year and i feel by the look of her teeth she is due for another clean, i don't like the idea that she needs to be put under and anesthetic every time her teeth get cleaned by the vet, so my question is does anyone know of a service or vet that will clean her teeth without putting the dogs under anesthetic? I clean her teeth daily and she is fine with me doing so, i imagine if a vet is genital doing a pro clean then anesthetic is not really necessary, we are humans don't need anesthetic for a dental clean so it not necessary for a little dog also unless extractions are required.

Thanks

[Jumabaar]

A dentist can tell us that we need to hold our mouth open. The machines we use to clean teeth make notice and vibrate and can be uncomfortable just like when we have our teeth done so anaesthesia is recommended for safety and welfare reasons.

[Jumabaar]

A dentist can tell us that we need to hold our mouth open. The machines we use to clean teeth make notice and vibrate and can be uncomfortable just like when we have our teeth done so anaesthesia is recommended for safety and welfare reasons.

[Jumabaar]

A dentist can tell us that we need to hold our mouth open. The machines we use to clean teeth make notice and vibrate and can be uncomfortable just like when we have our teeth done so anaesthesia is recommended for safety and welfare reasons.

[Jumabaar]

A dentist can tell us that we need to hold our mouth open. The machines we use to clean teeth make notice and vibrate and can be uncomfortable just like when we have our teeth done so anaesthesia is recommended for safety and welfare reasons.

[Jumabaar]

A dentist can tell us that we need to hold our mouth open. The machines we use to clean teeth make notice and vibrate and can be uncomfortable just like when we have our teeth done so anaesthesia is recommended for safety and welfare reasons.

[cavNrott]

I doubt it would be possible to clean dogs teeth without a GA. I think the vets probably use gas rather than putting the dogs in deep anaesthesia.

BTW I think you mean gentle, not 'genital'. There are no teeth in the genital area, thank goodness.

Jumabaar, I hear ya :)

[karly101]

the dental scaler makes noise and sprays water as well - then as the scaler creates micro scratches on the tooth surface the vet needs to follow with a polisher which also vibrates and is noisy. So yes the answer is no, its not possible without a GA. You could physically try and chip off some of the tarter manually but no way is it anyway near the same level of a proper scale and polish. Also this method its impossible to get to each tooth in an awake dog - risk of bite is too high.

[JulesP]

Teeth cleaning without a GA is a service that is offered overseas so it obviously can be done.

[Queen Maeby]

Does a regular vet do the job or do you have to see a specialist to have their teeth cleaned?

(I've never had any of my dogs' teeth cleaned.)

Edited February 3, 2014 by puggedforlife

[Steve]

Hi

I have a 7 year old Sheltie, she has already had several teeth extracted due to an apparent genetic issue so the vet tells me, her teeth have been cleaned by the vet twice in a year and i feel by the look of her teeth she is due for another clean, i don't like the idea that she needs to be put under and anesthetic every time her teeth get cleaned by the vet, so my question is does anyone know of a service or vet that will clean her teeth without putting the dogs under anesthetic? I clean her teeth daily and she is fine with me doing so, i imagine if a vet is genital doing a pro clean then anesthetic is not really necessary, we are humans don't need anesthetic for a dental clean so it not necessary for a little dog also unless extractions are required.

Thanks

I think it would be pretty stressful for the dog to be awake and having someone trying to clean her teeth but Im with you I dont like the idea of an anaesthetic

Couple of questions - what are you cleaning her teeth with and how and is the genetic condition a gum issue or teeth issue?

Julie

[Erny]

Teeth cleaning without a GA is a service that is offered overseas so it obviously can be done.

I've read of this as well.

I don't like the affects of GA and avoid it wherever possible. If ever GA is required for something else, I usually ask for a scale and polish at the same time, to take advantage.

But I do get very hesitant about GA just for teeth clean. GA upsets my boy's system and we work so hard to right it.

Edited February 3, 2014 by Erny

[Steve]

I can give you a recipe to make a great dog's tooth paste, help you with which herbs to add to its food to help keep bacteria away from the teeth and dissolve some of the plaque + offer you some suggestions for some common foods to feed to help if you like - depending on how bad the teeth are now you may need to go and have one more vet clean but there are several things you can do to prevent it needing to happen again. There's also nothing stopping you from using a tooth scaler yourself = a little bit every few days if your dog is O.K. about you doing stuff like that.

[Jumabaar]

Teeth cleaning without a GA is a service that is offered overseas so it obviously can be done.

I've read of this as well.

I don't like the affects of GA and avoid it wherever possible. If ever GA is required for something else, I usually ask for a scale and polish at the same time, to take advantage.

But I do get very hesitant about GA just for teeth clean. GA upsets my boy's system and we work so hard to right it.

Lots of dogs also need teeth removed overseas because the teeth cleaning done while the animal is awake is inadequate, but they market them well.......

[Erny]

I can give you a recipe to make a great dog's tooth paste, help you with which herbs to add to its food to help keep bacteria away from the teeth and dissolve some of the plaque + offer you some suggestions for some common foods to feed to help if you like - depending on how bad the teeth are now you may need to go and have one more vet clean but there are several things you can do to prevent it needing to happen again. There's also nothing stopping you from using a tooth scaler yourself = a little bit every few days if your dog is O.K. about you doing stuff like that.

Hi Steve.

I'd be very interested. I have to be reasonably cautious about what I use/feed as he has proven to be very sensitive to protein. What I initially thought were gum ulcers have been diagnosed (via Melbourne Zoo Dental specialist) to be the gum's reaction to protein. I did try that stuff that a number of us bought in ….. what was the name of it? Ummm, something to do with seaweed or something or other. I didn't see any great difference from its use and I admit that I wasn't comfortable with it working on the basis of altering the acidity of the dog's natural saliva. Especially not for Mandela, who is so super sensitive to so much, and especially back then when I really was having so much trouble with his digestive system.

I've used a scaler, but I don't seem to get very far. It doesn't 'crack' off and I can spend an absolute age, with the teeth not looking all that much better/whiter. My boy is really very good - he's well used to being poked and probed by me :D .

I admit that I should be paying his teeth more attention more frequently, but it does seem to be a constant thing that doesn't achieve much, in my instance.

He won't chew on bones anymore, or if he does, it is very rarely and not for long. I'm only thinking that the reason for this is that perhaps his gums are tender due to the sensitivity reaction to protein.

Edited February 3, 2014 by Erny

[Yonjuro]

I can give you a recipe to make a great dog's tooth paste, help you with which herbs to add to its food to help keep bacteria away from the teeth and dissolve some of the plaque + offer you some suggestions for some common foods to feed to help if you like - depending on how bad the teeth are now you may need to go and have one more vet clean but there are several things you can do to prevent it needing to happen again. There's also nothing stopping you from using a tooth scaler yourself = a little bit every few days if your dog is O.K. about you doing stuff like that.

Hi Steve.

I'd be very interested. I have to be reasonably cautious about what I use/feed as he has proven to be very sensitive to protein. What I initially thought were gum ulcers have been diagnosed (via Melbourne Zoo Dental specialist) to be the gum's reaction to protein. I did try that stuff that a number of us bought in ….. what was the name of it? Ummm, something to do with seaweed or something or other. I didn't see any great difference from its use and I admit that I wasn't comfortable with it working on the basis of altering the acidity of the dog's natural saliva. Especially not for Mandela, who is so super sensitive to so much, and especially back then when I really was having so much trouble with his digestive system.

I've used a scaler, but I don't seem to get very far. It doesn't 'crack' off and I can spend an absolute age, with the teeth not looking all that much better/whiter. My boy is really very good - he's well used to being poked and probed by me :D .

I admit that I should be paying his teeth more attention more frequently, but it does seem to be a constant thing that doesn't achieve much, in my instance.

He won't chew on bones anymore, or if he does, it is very rarely and not for long. I'm only thinking that the reason for this is that perhaps his gums are tender due to the sensitivity reaction to protein.

was it wakame?

[Boronia]

Proden Plaque Off https://www.google.c...YCQCQ&gws_rd=cr

I use this product instead of Plaque Off, as it is HEAPS cheaper and is the same seaweed as Plaque Off ( Ascophyllum Nodosum D1070), it seems to soften the plaque so it's easier to remove http://www.iherb.com...anic-1-lb/22573

I also use PetzLife Oral Care on Penny's teeth as an added tarter-precaution as she will try to swallow bones whole (this gets expensive due to the removal costs at the vet) http://www.glowgroom...ith-salmon-oil/

Edited February 3, 2014 by Boronia

[oakway]

Proden Plaque Off https://www.google.c...YCQCQ&gws_rd=cr

I use this product instead of Plaque Off, as it is HEAPS cheaper and is the same seaweed as Plaque Off ( Ascophyllum Nodosum D1070), it seems to soften the plaque so it's easier to remove http://www.iherb.com...anic-1-lb/22573

I also use PetzLife Oral Care on Penny's teeth as an added tarter-precaution as she will try to swallow bones whole (this gets expensive due to the removal costs at the vet) http://www.glowgroom...ith-salmon-oil/

Hi Boronia, is this product available in Aust.?.

[cavNrott]

Proden Plaque Off https://www.google.c...YCQCQ&gws_rd=cr

I use this product instead of Plaque Off, as it is HEAPS cheaper and is the same seaweed as Plaque Off ( Ascophyllum Nodosum D1070), it seems to soften the plaque so it's easier to remove http://www.iherb.com...anic-1-lb/22573

I also use PetzLife Oral Care on Penny's teeth as an added tarter-precaution as she will try to swallow bones whole (this gets expensive due to the removal costs at the vet) http://www.glowgroom...ith-salmon-oil/

Hi Boronia, is this product available in Aust.?.

Kelp is available at most health stores. I used to include in my BARF recipe before I switched to Big Dog BARF.

[silentchild]

I use plaque off too, it does soften the plaque a little but I also don't find that much difference. I brush my girl's teeth and also try picking at it with my fingernails, it doesn't seem to make much difference. Next thing I will try a tooth scaler but I worry about accidentally stabbing her LOL. My girl is missing teeth (genetically inherited) so I have a lot of trouble keeping her teeth clean even tho I give her bones and stuff to chew regularly. I too want to avoid a GA for teeth cleaning because of her sensitivity to certain types of medication. I'd be interested in any other tips anyone has.