apocalypsepwnie Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Vinnie had needles at 6 weeks, 8 weeks and another lot today at just before 12 weeks. Before his 8 week ones we didn't take him anywhere that we weren't carrying him, didn't let him socialize with other dogs or let him on the grass at home. When he was 8 weeks he had his kennel cough and second lot of parvo. A week later we were allowed to walk him. I asked the first vet in dubbo when he got his 6 weeks and my vet here in newcastle at 8 weeks. He had a booster today and that's it for a while. Wow I have to say you guys assumed a lot before I had a chance to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hankodie Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Vinnie had needles at 6 weeks, 8 weeks and another lot today at just before 12 weeks. Before his 8 week ones we didn't take him anywhere that we weren't carrying him, didn't let him socialize with other dogs or let him on the grass at home. When he was 8 weeks he had his kennel cough and second lot of parvo. A week later we were allowed to walk him. I asked the first vet in dubbo when he got his 6 weeks and my vet here in newcastle at 8 weeks. He had a booster today and that's it for a while. Wow I have to say you guys assumed a lot before I had a chance to answer. Sorry I'm still confused - are you saying that you brought him home before he was 8 weeks old? If so that's way too young to be leaving the breeder's house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypsepwnie Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 From reading the above and checking his records he got the 6-8 week one at 6 weeks, the 12 week one at 8 weeks and we are in an endemic area for parvo so had the 16 week one today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypsepwnie Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Yes hankodie I'm aware of that now. It's been pointed out to me several times. I thought I had the right information when I researched and from my experience 6 weeks was fine if they were on solids. Unfortunately there isn't anything I can do about that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Yes hankodie I'm aware of that now. It's been pointed out to me several times. I thought I had the right information when I researched and from my experience 6 weeks was fine if they were on solids. Unfortunately there isn't anything I can do about that now. Yes, and the breeder is the one who hasn't done the right thing, not you. It is also not an insurmountable issue. I'd suggest a good puppy school and /or puppy obedience class with a good trainer with behavioural experience would be really helpful in providing good controlled socialisation and advice on some of the issues that may arise as a result of early separation from mum and litter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 From reading the above and checking his records he got the 6-8 week one at 6 weeks, the 12 week one at 8 weeks and we are in an endemic area for parvo so had the 16 week one today. Quick word of caution. Some vaccinated pups can still catch parvo. I'd be keeping him out of more heavily dog populated areas for a while yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hankodie Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Yes hankodie I'm aware of that now. It's been pointed out to me several times. I thought I had the right information when I researched and from my experience 6 weeks was fine if they were on solids. Unfortunately there isn't anything I can do about that now. Thanks for clarifying, sorry I wasn't trying to attack you, I must've missed where it's been brought up. I think you know now from the feedback here that it was incredibly irresponsible for the "breeder" to let the pup go at 6 weeks. Even if the pup has been weaned and is eating solids, the full 8 weeks with his litter mates and mum are crucial for the puppy's socialisation. Like SG mentioned taking him to a good behaviourist/trainer is a good idea in case any issues arise from him being taken away from his litter so young. I've also read how you feel about taking him to dog parks but I would also strongly, strongly advise you that you manage each and every interaction with other dogs from here on out very carefully, especially as he is so young and will be entering the puppy fear period soon (if not already). I would avoid any and all situations where you might have unpredictable encounters and that includes at a dog park. I own a bull breed as well who happens to be reactive. I wish I had known all of this when I first got her as a puppy, I would've managed her interactions with other dogs MUCH more carefully if I knew what I know now. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with your pup and I hope you stick around, there is a wealth of information here on DOL, it's a fantastic resource especially if you are raising a pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 From reading the above and checking his records he got the 6-8 week one at 6 weeks, the 12 week one at 8 weeks and we are in an endemic area for parvo so had the 16 week one today. Quick word of caution. Some vaccinated pups can still catch parvo. I'd be keeping him out of more heavily dog populated areas for a while yet. So would I. No one is having a go at you, just cautioning. I have seen vaccinated pups with parvo, the vaccination is not 100% effective. Walking is fairly safe but dog parks are a very big risk, especially if you are in an area with a lot of parvo. Of course what you do with your puppy is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 From reading the above and checking his records he got the 6-8 week one at 6 weeks, the 12 week one at 8 weeks and we are in an endemic area for parvo so had the 16 week one today. Quick word of caution. Some vaccinated pups can still catch parvo. I'd be keeping him out of more heavily dog populated areas for a while yet. Definitely!! he is such a gorgeous boy ..his immune system will be working hard to assimilate the vaccines .. Hope he realises that his owner is trying very hard :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dididog Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Wow I have to say you guys assumed a lot before I had a chance to answer. Sorry if I seemed accusing, I just assumed he had the conventional vaccine times and therefore would have been at risk at the dog park! Just by putting yourself out there and joining a forum to ask questions you're doing better than a lot of other dog owners as you obviously care and worry about the upbringing of your pup and want to know as much as possible :) But yes as others have said you should still wait a bit to let his vaccine do its job before venturing to higher risk areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypsepwnie Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Sorry if I seem snappy and I don't mean to be. It's hard explaining myself each time it comes up with the same reaction from people. Training is a must. Unfortunately he missed the training starting when he was 8.5 weeks as it was still within the week of vaccination and the one we prefer runs the course every 4 weeks. So we start in a week. We've already started basics like sit, come, lay down and stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Ah, DOL can be a challenge, along with the rest of the "dog world". You seem to be doing fine, carry on with the training you have booked, keep asking questions and take on board what works for you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 That's great, he will love the training :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Please report the breeder to their council for selling underage puppies. By law in NSW no puppy may be sold or given away until they are 8 weeks old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic.B Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I would not ask a dog in such a situation to sit. You're increasing the dog's vulnerability to attack when its clear that what the dog wants is more space. You're also prolonging the encounter. Deny a dog the opportunity to flee and you give it one choice only - fight. Potentially you're also encouraging the dog to ignore you for its own preservation. I would position myself between the dog and the oncoming dog and get out of the situation as fast as possible. As for dogs rushing out of property? Report it. People are required to have their dogs securely contained. Perhaps a visit from the ranger might encourage the owner to take the issue a bit more seriously in future. This is interesting, thanks. I have always wondered if I had done the wrong thing by putting Fern into a drop when approached by three dogs who did attack. It all happened so quickly, though at the time I thought Ferns size might have intimidated the other dogs and added to their aggresion, so I put her into a drop Poor Ferny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boronia Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Please report the breeder to their council for selling underage puppies. By law in NSW no puppy may be sold or given away until they are 8 weeks old. can you clarify this for me please dancingbc's, is it a law or a 'Code of Practice' ? If it is a code of practice are there fines for Mr Joe-Bloggs BYBer selling pups under 8 weeks? I had phoned the RSPCA and our local (in QLD) council to find out that very thing and it appeared to be a recommendation only, unless it was a pet shop ( http://kb.rspca.org.au/How-old-should-a-puppy-be-before-they-are-adoptedpurchased_311.html ) There appears to be no exact laws (that I can find easily) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy21 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I like to let my dog greet others in as natural position as possible with their tail position showing and with them a long lead at least to enable them to communicate with their whole body, and let sniffing etc occur. It also lets me read my own dogs' body language better and see how they might be feeling about greeting right now. This has become important with my girl having a few spats in the last year. Nic B. - my big girl sometimes drops to encourage small dogs to greet, but it seems to frighten them even more when she suddenly stands up and looms over them, so I have discouraged it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Please report the breeder to their council for selling underage puppies. By law in NSW no puppy may be sold or given away until they are 8 weeks old. can you clarify this for me please dancingbc's, is it a law or a 'Code of Practice' ? If it is a code of practice are there fines for Mr Joe-Bloggs BYBer selling pups under 8 weeks? I had phoned the RSPCA and our local (in QLD) council to find out that very thing and it appeared to be a recommendation only, unless it was a pet shop ( http://kb.rspca.org.au/How-old-should-a-puppy-be-before-they-are-adoptedpurchased_311.html ) There appears to be no exact laws (that I can find easily) :) She said NSW. QLD may be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boronia Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Please report the breeder to their council for selling underage puppies. By law in NSW no puppy may be sold or given away until they are 8 weeks old. can you clarify this for me please dancingbc's, is it a law or a 'Code of Practice' ? If it is a code of practice are there fines for Mr Joe-Bloggs BYBer selling pups under 8 weeks? I had phoned the RSPCA and our local (in QLD) council to find out that very thing and it appeared to be a recommendation only, unless it was a pet shop ( http://kb.rspca.org....chased_311.html ) There appears to be no exact laws (that I can find easily) :) She said NSW. QLD may be different. Yep, I realise that Minimax but I can't find anything definitive in NSW either (this includes the RSPCA site) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Please report the breeder to their council for selling underage puppies. By law in NSW no puppy may be sold or given away until they are 8 weeks old. can you clarify this for me please dancingbc's, is it a law or a 'Code of Practice' ? If it is a code of practice are there fines for Mr Joe-Bloggs BYBer selling pups under 8 weeks? I had phoned the RSPCA and our local (in QLD) council to find out that very thing and it appeared to be a recommendation only, unless it was a pet shop ( http://kb.rspca.org....chased_311.html ) There appears to be no exact laws (that I can find easily) :) She said NSW. QLD may be different. Yep, I realise that Minimax but I can't find anything definitive in NSW either (this includes the RSPCA site) Try department of primary industries. It's the first result when I use Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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