twodoggies2001 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Yesterday, I took my two mini Schnauzers, as I have done over the years, to the of leash dog park. There was a young woman there with a largish cross breed dog which has the colouring of a dobie. The dog was a young and exuberant boy, not a vicious bone in his body and for a while was playing with my boys. Then his play got a bit too exuberant and my boys were warning and chasing him off. I indicated to the owner that she call him off and her reply was that he's OK. Well, he was not OK. I must stress that it was only play, but that's not the point. The owner had absolutely no control over her dog and just walked away, leaving him being growled and barked at and chased off by my two. She seemed indifferent to what was going on. I yelled and growled at him until he finally left. I know it's too late now, but should I have reported this to council? My boys were not afraid of him and I don't mollycoddle them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah82 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I'm not sure you can report a dog for being overly enthusiastic, playful and rude. If it happens again perhaps you can explain why the other owner should call their dog back "Your dog is making mine uncomfortable with his level of play, would you mind calling him away" If they don't listen then just take your dogs home and maybe they'll realize next time that your serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dory the Doted One Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 For me, if the dog was just playing, wasn't getting the message from my dog and the owner was unwilling to step in...I would just leave the park. The park that I go to is used by a largely excellent bunch of owners and dogs, occasionally you get numpty dogs and numpty owners. I've noticed that when this occurs there is a mass exodus of the regular users and the offending dog and owner are left on their own wondering why. There have been times when the same numpty owner is treated the same way and on subsequent visits it's like the light bulb goes on and they realise we don't like the way their over enthusiastic dog is behaving. (I'm sure that they get told by other park users, there are plenty of them that will 'nicely' mention the inappropriatness of their dogs conduct...or the owners). These people go there so their dogs can 'play' and 'socialise' with other dogs. Their intent is to go there and let their dogs run amok. You see their disappointment when there are no dogs at the park when they arrive or when everyone leaves soon after they get there. They don't see the inappropriateness of their dogs behaviour because 'they are just playing', 'isn't it cute'. They are as clueless as their dogs. Sometimes a bit of social ostracization can work wonders. You leave and the owner doesn't get the fuzzy feeling they are seeking by being good doggie mums and dads and letting their 'babies' play with other peoples 'children'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozzie Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Report what????? I would have left with my dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Report what exactly - to Joe Public it would have been your dogs who were "bad" as they were "being aggressive" (growling). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 LOL Not a thing to report going by that description but if your dogs had snapped there would have been. Glad I do not have to worry about parks etc ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Report what????? I would have left with my dogs. Well, that's why I asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Report what exactly - to Joe Public it would have been your dogs who were "bad" as they were "being aggressive" (growling). I wouldn't have called it aggressive. They took the rude behaviour for quite a while and then warned the dog. And by the way, I was not just standing around watching. I was trying to go my own way in the opposite direction to where the mindless owner was going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agility Dogs Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 This is exactly why my dogs don't go to dog parks any more. My boy was hurt when he was a youngster by a boisterous young lab. I didn't know enough to get him out of the way. It took me years to get him comfortable around bouncy dogs. (as opposed to interacting with them.) I don't think you have anything to report, but I do think you owe it to your dogs to get them out of harm's what when you can see potential for problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 They have breached the law. Dogs off lead are REQUIRED to be under effective voice control. That means that if someone says "call your dog away from mine " you have to do it immediately and your dog must come immediately . Personally I would have left before it hot to this. Which is easier said than done when the other fog follows you and continues to harass your dogs . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 If you have asked the owner to call their dog and they refuse, or they call and the dog does not return, you can call the ranger to come down. You need to do it immediately whilst the person is still at the park. They can't just walk away from their dog and refuse to call it, they must be with their dog and supervising it, the ranger can educate them on this. For those that 'just leave' - there is no education of appropriate off lead dog park interactions if problem owners are not made accountable for their lack of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Yesterday, I took my two mini Schnauzers, as I have done over the years, to the of leash dog park. There was a young woman there with a largish cross breed dog which has the colouring of a dobie. The dog was a young and exuberant boy, not a vicious bone in his body and for a while was playing with my boys. Then his play got a bit too exuberant and my boys were warning and chasing him off. I indicated to the owner that she call him off and her reply was that he's OK. Well, he was not OK. I must stress that it was only play, but that's not the point. The owner had absolutely no control over her dog and just walked away, leaving him being growled and barked at and chased off by my two. She seemed indifferent to what was going on. I yelled and growled at him until he finally left. I know it's too late now, but should I have reported this to council? My boys were not afraid of him and I don't mollycoddle them either. For what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Yesterday, I took my two mini Schnauzers, as I have done over the years, to the of leash dog park. There was a young woman there with a largish cross breed dog which has the colouring of a dobie. The dog was a young and exuberant boy, not a vicious bone in his body and for a while was playing with my boys. Then his play got a bit too exuberant and my boys were warning and chasing him off. I indicated to the owner that she call him off and her reply was that he's OK. Well, he was not OK. I must stress that it was only play, but that's not the point. The owner had absolutely no control over her dog and just walked away, leaving him being growled and barked at and chased off by my two. She seemed indifferent to what was going on. I yelled and growled at him until he finally left. I know it's too late now, but should I have reported this to council? My boys were not afraid of him and I don't mollycoddle them either. For what? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dory the Doted One Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 If you have asked the owner to call their dog and they refuse, or they call and the dog does not return, you can call the ranger to come down. You need to do it immediately whilst the person is still at the park. They can't just walk away from their dog and refuse to call it, they must be with their dog and supervising it, the ranger can educate them on this. For those that 'just leave' - there is no education of appropriate off lead dog park interactions if problem owners are not made accountable for their lack of action. I'm not sticking around to lecture people whilst their idiot dogs are bouncing off my dog, especially if my dog is not coping with it. I also have no patience. If the owner is open to a conversation, fine. But if all I'm going to get is excuses or abuse, I'm not interested. I don't enjoy the confrontation and would rather avoid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 If you have asked the owner to call their dog and they refuse, or they call and the dog does not return, you can call the ranger to come down. You need to do it immediately whilst the person is still at the park. They can't just walk away from their dog and refuse to call it, they must be with their dog and supervising it, the ranger can educate them on this. For those that 'just leave' - there is no education of appropriate off lead dog park interactions if problem owners are not made accountable for their lack of action. I'm not sticking around to lecture people whilst their idiot dogs are bouncing off my dog, especially if my dog is not coping with it. I also have no patience. If the owner is open to a conversation, fine. But if all I'm going to get is excuses or abuse, I'm not interested. I don't enjoy the confrontation and would rather avoid it. I'm not suggesting that you do. Walk your dogs outside of the park confines and call the ranger whilst the offending owner is still there. It is the ranger's job to do the education, and give fines where appropriate for owners who are not abiding by local laws. Their title is Animal Management Officer, their job is to enforce local laws. You pay their wages, just sayin'. Mine are currently door knocking every house in the municipality to check that all animals are registered. I could think of better uses for their time quite honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 They don't make money out of educating people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave73 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Rangers, I do not have a high opinion of that bunch. My mum had just got a Bull mastiff x rescue dog female 5 yrs old a absolute gentle giant. I had picked her up and when got back to mums took her for a walk as she had been couped up in a pen for god knows how long. Anyway 2 days later my mum calls me that a ranger had left a note that they needed to speak to her about a dog attack by her dog. Anyway I went straight down and lucky I did as this punk was trying to bully my 70 yr old mum, luckily for him he got away from me and hid in his car and called the police. Anyway the attack happened 2 days before we even got the dog this fool would not listen wouldn't look at the receipt a witness had said that they saw me walking it and it was the dog. Anyway the police cleared it up but they have no idea!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Yesterday, I took my two mini Schnauzers, as I have done over the years, to the of leash dog park. There was a young woman there with a largish cross breed dog which has the colouring of a dobie. The dog was a young and exuberant boy, not a vicious bone in his body and for a while was playing with my boys. Then his play got a bit too exuberant and my boys were warning and chasing him off. I indicated to the owner that she call him off and her reply was that he's OK. Well, he was not OK. I must stress that it was only play, but that's not the point. The owner had absolutely no control over her dog and just walked away, leaving him being growled and barked at and chased off by my two. She seemed indifferent to what was going on. I yelled and growled at him until he finally left. I know it's too late now, but should I have reported this to council? My boys were not afraid of him and I don't mollycoddle them either. For what? Huh? I really don't understand that the OP proposed to report. That the dog wasn't under effective voice control? The owner didnt' call it. That the owner didnt' seem to give a toss that her dog was annoying others and did nothing when it was brought to their attention? Not a reportable issue as far as I can ascertain. Lets not forget that the encounter was orignally agreeable to both owners. You want a high level of control and courtesy fromm other users in a public dog park? Easily fixed. Go when the park is empty. Otherwise, expect more of the same. Or find one that is divided into big and small dog sections and hope that people actually respect the divide. Edited January 22, 2014 by Haredown Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yesterday, I took my two mini Schnauzers, as I have done over the years, to the of leash dog park. There was a young woman there with a largish cross breed dog which has the colouring of a dobie. The dog was a young and exuberant boy, not a vicious bone in his body and for a while was playing with my boys. Then his play got a bit too exuberant and my boys were warning and chasing him off. I indicated to the owner that she call him off and her reply was that he's OK. Well, he was not OK. I must stress that it was only play, but that's not the point. The owner had absolutely no control over her dog and just walked away, leaving him being growled and barked at and chased off by my two. She seemed indifferent to what was going on. I yelled and growled at him until he finally left. I know it's too late now, but should I have reported this to council? My boys were not afraid of him and I don't mollycoddle them either. For what? Huh? I really don't understand that the OP proposed to report. That the dog wasn't under effective voice control? The owner didnt' call it. That the owner didnt' seem to give a toss that her dog was annoying others and did nothing when it was brought to their attention? Not a reportable issue as far as I can ascertain. Lets not forget that the encounter was orignally agreeable to both owners. You want a high level of control and courtesy fromm other users in a public dog park? Easily fixed. Go when the park is empty. Otherwise, expect more of the same. Or find one that is divided into big and small dog sections and hope that people actually respect the divide. I reiterate that is why I asked should I have reported it. Yes it was because the dog was not under the control of the owner and yes, she didn't give a toss when brought to her attention. I didn't say that the first encounter was agreeable to both of us as owners. It may have been agreeable to the mindless owner and I did say that I don't mollycoddle my dogs but it was not of my choosing that this dog came bounding over at speed and nothing was done top try and stop him by his owner. Now tell me in all honesty. How can you pick the times when there is nobody else using the facility? There are always other dog people there and I have never come across an ignorant, mindless dog owner as this one. Anyway, I believe in karma so, one day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I reiterate that is why I asked should I have reported it. Yes it was because the dog was not under the control of the owner and yes, she didn't give a toss when brought to her attention. I didn't say that the first encounter was agreeable to both of us as owners. It may have been agreeable to the mindless owner and I did say that I don't mollycoddle my dogs but it was not of my choosing that this dog came bounding over at speed and nothing was done top try and stop him by his owner. Now tell me in all honesty. How can you pick the times when there is nobody else using the facility? There are always other dog people there and I have never come across an ignorant, mindless dog owner as this one. Anyway, I believe in karma so, one day.... You go very very early, or very very late. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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