SLF Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 This is a long story but I will keep it brief as this matter will be handed to authorities. I have a 12mth female dog in my care. I bred her and through a turn of events she has ended back with me after a period of being very badly treated. About 2 weeks ago a lump was discovered at the time believed to be a pregnancy and therefore she has been very closely monitored. Today she was diagnosed with a pyometra. She is still bright so I opted to try antibiotics first, without jumping into having her speyed. I am wondering if any of you have successfully treated a bitch for this without having to spey her. This little dog is of excellent breeding and even though she has suffered misfortune she is a wonderfully natured dog. I will of course do what is best for her long term health. I just want to explore all avenues first, while she is well enough to try. Also if you have successfully treated a bitch, have you bred from her later down the track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I know of one bitch who was successfully treated and went on to have a litter but most need to spayed. Conservative treatment is worth a try so long as she stays well in herself but be aware that they can crash suddenly and need emergency surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I think the success will also depend on if it is closed or open. I only know of one with an open pyo treated then had babies next heat no issues. Most people opt to desex. My bitch had an open, treated her with AB's but desexed her before her next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Yes - treated with AB and a mixture of other drugs. Kept from coming into season for 6+ months. TCI with fresh semen, litter of 5 puppies Back to back mating TCI frozen semen 4 puppies. Desexed before next season. Treated by Stuart at Monash vet, Vic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wundahoo Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 It's possible but needs to be done by a repro specialist or at least by a very experienced general practice vet. Some years ago, one of my bitches suffered a septic abortion at about 6 1/2 weeks gestation. She had a uterus full of pus and all the puppies were dead. Of course it happened on a weekend when just about every vet in the state was at a weekend course on reproduction given by an internationally acknowledged repro expert !! Where were they all when I needed them ?????? ...... Sitting on their butts in a lecture theatre !!! Luckily I was able to contact the lecturer himself and he was very happy to have a readily available example of what can be achieved. My girl was treated free of charge over the next couple of weeks, under his guidance and instructions. While she was not particularly well, she did OK and after a few weeks was back to her normal self. I was told to mate her at her very next oestrus, which we did. The litter was lovely and I kept a male who was quite successful in the show ring but best of all, he went on to become an important stud. He and his son still feature heavily in my pedigrees today. If it was not for that particular vet being in town at that particular weekend, my bitch would proably have been sterilised and my wonderful stud dog would never have existed, nor his children, grand and great grandchildren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowanbree Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I know of a couple of bitch's who have been treated successfully but I am given to understand it that they must be mated the next season and then desexed as once they have had pyo it will come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Many years ago a bitch of mine got pyo on her first heat, so very young. Treated with ABs and she went on to have a successful breeding career. She was bred on her 2nd heat - normal back then but not every heat and had no issues. Older bitches are a different proposition IME. Definitely needs a vet with experience with the condition and very careful monitoring. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbreedlover Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I know you were asking for positive experiences but in my opinion every experience helps. Good and bad. I had a bitch(was 18 months old. Normal seasons, but had never been mated. She develop open Pyo and I opted to medicate. A heartwrenching experience and certainly not one for the fainthearted. You have to be with them 24 hours a day and then some until the treatment is finished(unless they stay at the vets) Everything went well and Abbey recovered. I had to mate her at the next season which I did. I also mated her Mum as she came into season 1 week before Abbey did. Normal matings, everything seemed to go well 3 weeks and then another week after that I had two bitches in at the vets getting desexed as both had closed pyo. First Abbey and then her Mum. Not everything is rosie so please be prepared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLF Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Thankyou, yes I appreciate all the experiences. I should have mentioned this is an open Pyo. so is freely draining atm, though we are unsure at this point if it is a normal pyo infection or the result of a terminal pregnancy, which seems more likely as she had been running with male dogs and the lump detected earlier was thought to be a puppy in utero . However we are working on limited information due to the circumstances in which she has come into my care. I can say that I did not sleep well last night with this all going around in my head. Though was happy to she her licking her bowl for more breakfast this morning. I am working with my local Vet under the guidance of an experienced Vet, due to my location. We have not yet spoken about next heats or mating. Do you know why they need to be mated next heat? Thankyou for your words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyosha Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) One of mine was successfully treated, by my normal GP vet. She was 2 at the time, it was open and draining. She was treated with antibiotics, and with the standard abortion injection (can't remember the name sorry!) to assist in producing contractions to expel any infection material. Vet advice was to breed her on the next season for the best chance of fertility and flush the uterus. That was an absolute impossibility at the time. She was young and immature, and her half sister was nearly due to whelp a huge litter. So I took my chances and didn't. We agreed not to give her antibiotics following her next season and she cycled normally afterwards. I crossed my fingers and toes last year and bred her. One mating & tie and she produced 12 healthy and beautiful puppies in November. She was pregnant and whelped without a hitch, and has been a spectacular mother. She had her Pyo in June 2011 and whelped her litter in November 2013. Not sure why it happened as it is not known in her family. She had only had one season prior to her Pyo and she had a very strong phantom afterwards (also not known in her family). So possibly linked to that, but I suppose we'll never know. Edited January 9, 2014 by Alyosha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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