megan_ Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Amazing how many people on a dog forum think it is ok to leave a baby puppy alone all day by itself. How caring. Says some special things about a lot of you, doesn 't it? Some very special things!! You have made an assumption that if someone works full time the pup is alone all day. I paid someone to visit my pup while I was at work. Simple. Assumptions don't benefit anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Well sorry guys. We are all useless puppy raisers and should all be ashamed. I for one am off to take my miserable and disposable dogs out for tea and then to a friends place for a play with their dogs and a swim for new years eve. Beats being blatantly insulted by someone who so clearly knows my dog and my situation better than I. Yep. My bored, miserable dogs are lying out in the sun with a nice juicy bone, though I guess if they could they would run away. Oh dear is all I can manage :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 When I bring home a new pup it is raised separately to my other dogs, they don't run or play together. I don't get a dog to keep my other dogs company. When it comes to the amount of time you spend with pups and your dogs IMO quality is far more important than quantity. Every interaction we have with our dogs is training them and spending lots of time with your dog doesn't mean it is valuable time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Amazing how many people on a dog forum think it is ok to leave a baby puppy alone all day by itself. How caring. Says some special things about a lot of you, doesn 't it? Some very special things!! How do you know what People do with their dogs, you discount them as soon as you hear the words "work full time". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeluca Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 i Just homed my litter Golden retrievers. Arguably one of the most human orientated breed. 2 out of 9 will go to full time workers, and yes will spend 5 days out of 7 alone for 10 hours per day about 44- 46 weeks of the year. In other other times will enjoy walks, couch time, beach or bush walks on weekends, camping trips, family visits and visitors, obedience training, playing in the yard with humans. When assessed they were given confident independent pups whom more often away from most of the litter but are happy to be joining in the fun as well, very sociable and affectionate. I have multiple dogs yes but at any one time I can separate and have any one dog by themselves for hours in a day a couple of weeks at a time without destruction or howling. this occasionally has to be done to separate girls in season. They cope just fine. I am home most days but I may be busy all day and don't see my dogs for 8-10 hours, this includes the one that may be by it's self. what is your issue exactly? where is the problem with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 So at what point does it become OK to go back to work? How is the transition expected to go. Pup leaves mum, arrives in a new place where someone e is always around to entertain, feed and stimulate pup, month passes and pup finds himself home alone of a day. Personally I feel you start the way you intend to carry on, its gotta be a nasty shock when pup hasn't learned how to amuse himself and decides to dig/chew or bark. None of which are problems here with Gus. Again, Rosie who was raised with someone always around is the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Well sorry guys. We are all useless puppy raisers and should all be ashamed. I for one am off to take my miserable and disposable dogs out for tea and then to a friends place for a play with their dogs and a swim for new years eve. Beats being blatantly insulted by someone who so clearly knows my dog and my situation better than I. Yep. My bored, miserable dogs are lying out in the sun with a nice juicy bone, though I guess if they could they would run away. Oh dear is all I can manage :laugh: You heartless wench! I'll go open their gate and help them, shall I? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Well sorry guys. We are all useless puppy raisers and should all be ashamed. I for one am off to take my miserable and disposable dogs out for tea and then to a friends place for a play with their dogs and a swim for new years eve. Beats being blatantly insulted by someone who so clearly knows my dog and my situation better than I. Yep. My bored, miserable dogs are lying out in the sun with a nice juicy bone, though I guess if they could they would run away. Oh dear is all I can manage :laugh: You heartless wench! I'll go open their gate and help them, shall I? :p :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 What a load of cow dung. I work 24/7. My poor dogs. So glad I bought from breeders who didnt have a rod up their bum. It's your fault your Pug is nuts , you weren't home enough to mummy it :laugh: I think you are both to blame. and I think you both know why!! :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosetta Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 what a load of crap the reason most of the 'disasters' you speak of are from people that work full time is because..... most people have to work full time we're not living in the 80's here where families can live off one income. I haven't had a puppy for a long time but we have a 6 year old cocker who we had to get a friend for because he suffered from separation anxiety when he was alone. This is a dog who spent the first 10 months of his life with his breeder and after that always had another dog around to play with. Can't help but think he'd be better off if he spent more time alone in his younger days :p Sorry but :laugh: . As someone who had kids in the 80's and paying a 17% mortgage one wage would have been a bit of a struggle. Breeders obviously can sell a pup to whoever they think is suitable and if the breed is "in demand" then they can be more fussy. I think it is better to treat each application on merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I want to know where all these perfect unemployed owners get their cash! Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 tdierikx - I have never known you to have just one dog. I did have one dog raised from a 6 week old pup (FTGH) when I was working 12 hour shifts - 4 days on, 4 days off... I had to start my dog addiction somewhere... *grin* She was 4 before I decided to get another dog... and it kinda snowballed from there... lol! I've never really been into going out (since I gave up drinking and got my first dog), so all non-working hours were spent with my dog - she even went ice skating with me... which was my one night out per week. I'm sure that it would feel wierd to only have one dog now... 4 is my magic number. T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roova Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 If i didn't work full time I wouldn't be able to pay for my dogs supply of Atopica medication haha. I think one thing you are assuming wrong is that full time workers work a normal working day! I work on a rotating roster and rarely do 730 - 5 every day. I have one dog (my sisters dog lives with me but he's an unsociable dog who spends very little time with mine). I don't have a dog walker but when I'm not working I tend to be spending time with my dog. I was able to take my pup into work occasionally at a young age or a friend sometimes stopped over but sometimes he was alone for that period of time. He's never suffered from separation anxiety and is always left with stuff to do (yes occasionally as a pup he'd create his own fun!). He's now 3, and now my sister is home and she says all he does is sleep most of the day. Everyone's situation is different, I know plenty of people who do not work and the dog sits in the back yard all day. Plenty of retirees who have a dog but are never at home or always travelling (and dog ends up constantly at the kennels). Do you apply the same criteria to them too or just assume because they aren't working they will be with the dog? No, I apply the same criteria to all enquiries. That is whether they can give the dog a suitable home or not. As you can see from the previous post, "a suitable home" can be different in each situation. What is important is company, socialisation, training, affection, care. I am over this thread now. Some of you can't read, or wanted to have a go, or are offended. karly 101 didn't need to be offended, my post didn't refer to her. I have to wonder why people who fall very far outside the category are offended. If you didn't want to offend maybe you should have just posted 'if you don't plan on providing consistent care, training and socialising, rethink buying a puppy'. You instead inferred anyone who works full time shouldn't buy a single puppy because they won't take care of it. Easy to take offence to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hankodie Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Well I guess I'll chime in. I'm 25 and I work from home as a freelance designer. I'm pretty much home all day and have raised my 2 year old frenchie and currently raising 6 month old Hank (golden retriever). I realise that my circumstances are unusual, especially for someone my age. My dogs are no more better adjusted than some of the owners I meet who work full time. In fact, I worry that me being home all the time is actually more detrimental to them than anything. I've always made sure that they learn to have alone time but I worry how they will cope if one day the circumstances change. I've met plenty of wonderful owners who work full time and who have well socialised, well behaved dogs. Commitment is what you should be looking for - like someone else said it's quality not quantity. If you're talking about someone who works full time and commutes, spends zero time at home, would rather go out 24/7 and leave the dog chained up never to see the outside world then yes, of course they would not be the ideal owners for your puppies. But you can probably pick these people out straight away. Edited December 31, 2013 by hankodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Amazing how many people on a dog forum think it is ok to leave a baby puppy alone all day by itself. How caring. Says some special things about a lot of you, doesn 't it? Some very special things!! Jed, if you're wondering why people are getting offended, you need go no further than reading this response from you. You've assumed (wrongly for some) that a full time job means that people are leaving baby pups home alone all day. A number of us have explained how that isn't so. It's not fun to be written off as uncaring because you have a full time job, especially when you make special effort to see to the needs of a growing pup. Sweeping generalisations about the standard of dog care given by full time workers was always bound to offend some. I'm not offended but I can see why some are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danois Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 So at what point does it become OK to go back to work? How is the transition expected to go. Pup leaves mum, arrives in a new place where someone e is always around to entertain, feed and stimulate pup, month passes and pup finds himself home alone of a day. Personally I feel you start the way you intend to carry on, its gotta be a nasty shock when pup hasn't learned how to amuse himself and decides to dig/chew or bark. None of which are problems here with Gus. Again, Rosie who was raised with someone always around is the opposite. Current dog - he came home at 11 weeks and I took the following day off and then had the weekend and worked a half day on the Monday and then in the first week kept to 9-5 hours. Used the first few days to come and go and extend the away periods. Started as I meant to go on and I was lucky that my breeder had done a great job of raising a litter of pups who could cope with being alone for periods. I don't need to face up to a reality that I've done a bad job raising my dog. I'll stick to the reality that I see every day and which I get complimented for - I raised my dog pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danois Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Actually Wreckit - perhaps my abandonment of him as a puppy was the reason he needed to pogo stick outside your kitchen window... Obviously a psychological issue festering there. Edited December 31, 2013 by Danois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeluca Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) I want to know where all these perfect unemployed owners get their cash! Anyone? before it was taken back i suppose they had kids at $5000 a pop, then of course the $700 - $800 per child family tax benefit in July, and the $1200 for 3 kids in a "single parent pension" then rent assistance per fortnight. owning a dog don't cost much $30 bag of dog food per month, vet visit once a year $150. a lead $15, a collar $10, council reg $70 approx, bucket for water $2 maybe needed to be replaced a few times a year $10. maybe a bag of bones each month $5, and bathing in flea and tick over the year $60. = $650 - $900 per year. This is how most dogs live. They don't spend $100 + per bag or feed or make it from scratch. Some times these dogs just sit in a yard as well. Not sayin it's good or bad, others who spend $1500+ per year on them may neglect the dogs in obedience or attention or whatever. OH BUT BY THE WAY someone who earns $150k per year may spend the exact same amount on a dog per year. It it Called Judging a book by it's cover and not knowing the full situation or circumstance. Maybe it hasn't worked out for you in the past because you didn't suit the dog and family right?????? Edited December 31, 2013 by Angeluca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I think that there has been a heck of a lot of vehemence directed at Jed in the responses here by quite a few people. We all could have explained ourselves and our stance on the topic without making our posts look like personal attacks on Jed's character, yes? I apologise if any of my responses have offended you Jed - you will always have my respect, even if I don't necessarily agree with you on this particular topic, OK? In the end, Jed knows what her pups will require to be raised as happy and healthy and socially acceptable pets - and maybe we should just agree to disagree... at least we know what Jed expects from her puppy buyers in case we get the urge to apply for one... *grin* T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentchild Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) This thread is turning into a trainwreck!! No problem there' date=' the dog does not appear to be alone all day. You have made provisions to cater for his needs It is ok if you can make arrangements for the pup to have alternatives but not if you can't.[/quote'] Even tho I do try and make every effort so animals aren't alone for too long, like shuffling work hours with partner etc, sometimes it is inevitable if something urgent pops up at work, or traffic is really bad, or break ups occur so back to single income, etc, things happen. And during Christmas periods we both have to work extra so she is left home for the day, about 8 hours every day. She has plenty of toys and chews to keep her occupied. Nevertheless my dog still gets plenty of walks while the sun is still shining, she gets loads of play, training, we go to training classes twice, sometimes 3x a week after work, yes even for runs at midnight normally during busy workdays - I make the time. On weekends we go bush, hiking, beach, trials, play etc etc... And yes, I only have one dog (plus the cat) does this make it bad as well! The breeder for my dog specifically told me my girl would benefit from being an only dog and the one on one attention from me. I make sure I am a responsible dog owner and all my dog's needs are met. I go above and beyond to make sure she is happy and has quality of life. I have a very minimal social life and almost all my spare time is spent engaging with my animals. She sleeps in my bed and cuddles in my lap watching tv. I put effort into creating a bond with her no matter how tired I am from working all day. I'd sooner sleep in my car and go without food myself than surrender my dog to a pound, if I ever lost my job. I would say I am a far better home than the average pet owner who have dogs just as backyard ornaments. So I would be rejected a puppy just because I work full time. I find this quite upsetting and hope that not all breeders have the mentality that full time workers are bad dog owners!! I thought breeders ultimately wanted their pups to go to loving, caring homes, regardless of work status. I understand your concerns about full time workers leaving a developing pup home alone for long periods of time but I think the real issue you should be concerned about is how responsible those owners are and what are they willing to do to ensure pups needs are met when they are not at work. Ok got that off my chest. Looks like you hit a nerve in me. I am leaving this thread now before it crashes and burns LOL. Edited December 31, 2013 by silentchild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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