twodoggies2001 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 This morning I took Jasper to the vet for a general check up, titre testing and to have his teeth cleaned. When the vet had a quick look in his mouth, she informed me that 2 of his teeth need to be pulled because they are loose. This really knocked me because my boys are raw fed, and they get raw meaty bones, plus once a week, what I call recreational bone and in between bully sticks. I thought the bones and bully sticks would have done the cleaning part. It seems that he eats on one side of his mouth. He showed no signs of discomfort because of his loose teeth, so I didn't worry until I was told. He certainly didn't have any lack of appetite and was his usual happy self. I'm very disappointed in myself and feel like I have been a neglectful owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I would probably get a second opinion before pulling any teeth, but a raw diet is no guarantee of teeth free of issues. Most of the bones we feed aren't really that challenging, and the ones that are, like heads, aren't commonly available or fed. And some dogs are just more prone to teeth problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliwake Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 If they're loose, wouldn't they just fall out on their own eventually? Why did the vet say they needed to come out? Unless there are signs of infection, surely it would be an unnecessary anaesthetic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 If they're loose, wouldn't they just fall out on their own eventually? Why did the vet say they needed to come out? Unless there are signs of infection, surely it would be an unnecessary anaesthetic? The rest need to be cleaned anyway. He had breath that could kill, so that is the main reason he went in today. I would rather take action now than have problems for him further down the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 If they're loose, wouldn't they just fall out on their own eventually? Why did the vet say they needed to come out? Unless there are signs of infection, surely it would be an unnecessary anaesthetic? The rest need to be cleaned anyway. He had breath that could kill, so that is the main reason he went in today. I would rather take action now than have problems for him further down the track. That shows the RMB's aren't cleaning their teeth effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 If they're loose, wouldn't they just fall out on their own eventually? Why did the vet say they needed to come out? Unless there are signs of infection, surely it would be an unnecessary anaesthetic? The rest need to be cleaned anyway. He had breath that could kill, so that is the main reason he went in today. I would rather take action now than have problems for him further down the track. That shows the RMB's aren't cleaning their teeth effectively. He eats on one side of his mouth The side he uses was sparkling white. The other side was the problem. It could have been been because of the loose teeth, which shows that the RMB'S half work lol. I'm just wondering if the recreational bones could have been the culprit and loosened the teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliwake Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 If they're loose, wouldn't they just fall out on their own eventually? Why did the vet say they needed to come out? Unless there are signs of infection, surely it would be an unnecessary anaesthetic? The rest need to be cleaned anyway. He had breath that could kill, so that is the main reason he went in today. I would rather take action now than have problems for him further down the track. Fair enough, thanks for explaining. I've only had to deal with broken pup teeth so far. Disappointing that his diet isn't maintaining his teeth the way you'd hoped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappie Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 He eats on one side of his mouth The side he uses was sparkling white. The other side was the problem. It could have been been because of the loose teeth, which shows that the RMB'S half work lol. I'm just wondering if the recreational bones could have been the culprit and loosened the teeth. It's obviously difficult to determine without examining the mouth, but if there is significant tartar build up on the upper carnassial tooth I'd have a reasonable index of suspicion for a slab fracture causing a problem as well as the loose teeth. In answer to the question about whether the loose teeth need to be removed - yes. The provide access for bacteria to cause infection within the jaw bone, prevent the soft tissue from healing and generally cause pain and discomfort. Dogs and cats are very stoic and will continue to act normally even with significant amounts of dental pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpiecuddles Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Are the loose teeth on the side he's chewing on or the side he's not chewing on? If they are on the side he's not chewing on they may be bothering him and causing him to avoid that side, hence the one sided chewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 I am still stunned and mortified. Jasper had 15 teeth removed. I felt so bad for him and the vet assured me that it was not what I was feeding him. She feels in his case it is a genetic thing. She said his mouth was toxic and it was very lucky I brought him in when I did. Had I noticed any problems with him eating he would have been there much earlier. Admittedly, he had bad breath, but it was not constant. The boy certainly is stoic. He is happy with a waggy tail,eating soft food for the first five days, and has not lost his appetite. We're back in 2 weeks for a recheck and from then on 6 monthly. My pocket is now much lighter too but them the breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Poor boy, glad he is on the mend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosetta Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) 15 teeth removed Poor Jasper - how old is he? I hope the vet sent him home with some pain relief? I think some dogs just have bad teeth no matter what we do. I was shocked when my boy had to have two removed at age two. Edited October 23, 2013 by Rosetta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 15 teeth removed Poor Jasper - how old is he? I hope the vet sent him home with some pain relief? I think some dogs just have bad teeth no matter what we do. I was shocked when my boy had to have two removed at age two. I know the feeling now. Jaspie has just turned 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 poor Jasper .... Hope he enjoys his smoothies for a while , and is not suffering a head/jaw ache .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascalmyshadow Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I have two dogs that have teeth removed, my pom x chi is only two and I was shocked to find he needed two teeth out. Our rescue poodle had disgusting teeth when he arrived and he had about four out. My twelve and a half year old poodle has never had a dental and her teeth are beautiful, so are the other two dogs. Genetics seems to be a bigger problem than diet although feeding Mydog is a good way to cause problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 sounds like your dog had periodontal disease rather then just dirty teeth. Quite common in racebred greyhounds. My greyhound ended up having all his teeth out. He managed fine without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 sounds like your dog had periodontal disease rather then just dirty teeth. Quite common in racebred greyhounds. My greyhound ended up having all his teeth out. He managed fine without them. There was no mention by the vet of periodontal disease. Just that it was very likely,because of the way I feed my boys, a genetic problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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