OSoSwift Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) I am looking at buying a humane dog trap to fit a dog over say cattle dog size. We have had some young lambs recently killed or injured in a way not consistent with injuries caused by foxes. I have had to put another one down today. Unfortunately we have reasonably large acreage but are starting to be surrounded by small hobby farms of a couple of hundred acres, everyone seems to have dogs that they let roam their acreage. Any links much appreciated Edited October 9, 2013 by OSoSwift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdie Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Ring your local council they may have some you can hire out; or know where you can get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) Are you thinking a soft jaw leg-hold trap or some kind of cage trap Oso? E - the cages are very expensive and I don't know anyone who's used one. The Victor soft jaws are generally $25-50, but there are some tricks to setting them up. DAFWA or maybe your local NRM rep should be able to help you I think. http://www.wapoultryequipment.net.au/products/victor-soft-catch-3-rubber-jaw-trap-dogs-dingoes Edited October 9, 2013 by TheLBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Horrible about your poor lambs. Get a couple of Maremmas, perhaps :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffikki Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 http://www.animalpest.com.au/retail-services/ http://www.wapoultryequipment.net.au/categories/large-animal-traps :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 I have contacted the rangers. It has to go to the head ranger and shire for approval. Interesting since I only have to be a farmer and do an open book certificate to lay baits!!! I am hoping we can get a trap from the rangers, they will not put it out until the weather and rain clears which will be a few days by the looks., if we do get approval. I was looking at the cage type with the door that drops down. Thank you for the links I will have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) Sorry double post Edited October 9, 2013 by OSoSwift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) Maremma might be okay but I am not sure I need more dogs :) I do have 2 alpaca but they are my pets and from everything I have read they can get badly injured trying to guard against dogs do I am not going to risk that. I suspect I know which property they are coming from but want proof before saying anything Having a lamb who was perfectly health that had to be put down due to a crushed throat is very upsetting. The poor lamb would have been in pain and terrified as would its mum who was valiantly defending it and even gave us a run for our money when we went to pick it up. And people why farmers shot roaming dogs regardless of if they are actually caught in the act. My livestock should be safe on my farm. People should keep their bloody dogs home. I have four and I can manage it!!! Edited October 9, 2013 by OSoSwift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 You can hire them - my foster carers hired them to trap our lost Iggy when he was running around industrial estates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipsqueak Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 http://www.fmb.com.au/contents/en-us/d307_Animal_Traps.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) Good luck Oso :) If the dog/s is at all feral a cage trap would be very hard but if they are the neighbour dogs you might be ok. Sorry about your lambs Edited October 9, 2013 by TheLBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 Good luck Oso :) If the dog/s is at all feral a cage trap would be very hard but if they are the neighbour dogs you might be ok. Sorry about your lambs We don't have wild/feral dogs here, there are out further. We unfortunately have lifestyle farmers instead with their dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Probably need a bigger crate, but we made a fox/cat trap from a mesh dog crate ..on its side , so the door swings DOWN...followed by a wire rod which locked it into place . Door closure was triggered by the animal grabbing at bait hung inside. We haven't had it out for a while, but it worked fine! Free feed a few times, whichever trap you use ... then when animal is comfortable .. set it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 ...or maybe set up a camera , if you need evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 A dog in my possession is evidence that cannot be argued with. Hopefully the rangers do bring the trap out. I do have a hunting camera but the are is too large and with too much cover to photograph easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJaq Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I second the Maremma. Have had one for my poultry for a few months now and I now sleep like a baby since I'm not constantly listening for birds in distress due to foxes anymore! If they were my sheep I would probably hang a leg or skin of one of the ones you had to destroy off a tree somewhere where there has been a kill or an attack and then Mr .308 and I would stake that place out until we met the culprit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Good luck Oso :) If the dog/s is at all feral a cage trap would be very hard but if they are the neighbour dogs you might be ok. Sorry about your lambs We don't have wild/feral dogs here, there are out further. We unfortunately have lifestyle farmers instead with their dogs I just remembered after my first post there was an unsocialised, escaped rescue dog that got into the bush near my old suburb and it took them I think 6-9 months to catch it with a cage trap because it was so skittish. They did make a couple of mistakes though so the dog got wise to the trap. But again if they are normal curious (& greedy) domestics it should be ok :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuralPug Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Sorry slightly OT but local farmer set up a large home made dog trap with a crate I'd loaned him... next morning we could see the trap closed and occupied - I could see a creamy hairy shape laying down and was trying to make out the breed or dominant breed as we approached (as you do) but when we got there we found that it was an adventurous two-tooth in the trap and not a dog at all! We laughed and cursed and set the idiot thing free. The bait was untouched so we reclaimed it and set it up again the following night to avoid crows stealing the bait during the day. A few days later he returned the cage, as he'd caught the culprit (a Rotty cross from the nearby town) and handed her over to the ranger. He would have been perfectly entitled to shoot her but loved dogs too much, even feral ones. I shall never ever forget that stupid sheep in the trap, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 I can fully imagine that happening, considering my pet sheep is currently in there and a crate was his home and shelter for quite a few weeks as a bub. I still haven't heard back, so frustrating. I would have thought it a legitimate usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Oh and if I got a flock guardian it would be an Anatolian :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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