tdierikx Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) My fave local clinic sold out to Greencross... I don't go there any more as the vets there now have it built into their KPI's to be making lots of profit margin for the company. The best vets that used to work there have left in disgust. Luckily I found an even closer local vet clinic that has an awesome vet who really isn't all that interested in upselling products to boost his profit margin - it is all about what's best for the animals there. He reckons he doesn't have to be massively rich rather than earning a good enough living. He's not poor, but he's not rich either - he also loves his job. T. Edited October 4, 2013 by tdierikx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Working Dog Lover Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Glen Richards is a vet, and is managing director of the whole Greencross company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Not that this has a lot to do with anything, but afaik, Greencross is owned by some vets, and is not franchised. But that information is a couple of years old, so it may have changed, but the idea was not to franchise the clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Not that this has a lot to do with anything, but afaik, Greencross is owned by some vets, and is not franchised. But that information is a couple of years old, so it may have changed, but the idea was not to franchise the clinics. Some are franchised, but their main aim is to just buy vet practices and take them over (they also do joint ventures and mergers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Greencross vets are taking over here in Vic. They are a huge chain who have inflated prices yet apparently pay their nurses peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Greencross vets are taking over here in Vic. They are a huge chain who have inflated prices yet apparently pay their nurses peanuts. I was going to apply and got warned off by a fair few nurses because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santo66 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Not that this has a lot to do with anything, but afaik, Greencross is owned by some vets, and is not franchised. But that information is a couple of years old, so it may have changed, but the idea was not to franchise the clinics. Some are franchised, but their main aim is to just buy vet practices and take them over (they also do joint ventures and mergers). They are obviously offering good money for existing practices, but I don't see as an operator or franchisee any benefits for a vet to run under Greencross other getting ripped off on franchise fees and sharing income with them. Vets are usually a local thing that sells service and gains reputation....having Greencross written on the front window will probably cause avoidance if they are ripping people off....what does a Vet chain have to offer anyone Edited October 6, 2013 by Santo66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Not that this has a lot to do with anything, but afaik, Greencross is owned by some vets, and is not franchised. But that information is a couple of years old, so it may have changed, but the idea was not to franchise the clinics. Some are franchised, but their main aim is to just buy vet practices and take them over (they also do joint ventures and mergers). They are obviously offering good money for existing practices, but I don't see as an operator or franchisee any benefits for a vet to run under Greencross other getting ripped off on franchise fees and sharing income with them. Vets are usually a local thing that sells service and gains reputation....having Greencross written on the front window will probably cause avoidance if they are ripping people off....what does a Vet chain have to offer anyone They are publicly listed... so probably stocks or dividends etc And if it's the only vet in a local community people are going to use it because it's there. Edited October 6, 2013 by minimax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 They are obviously offering good money for existing practices, but I don't see as an operator or franchisee any benefits for a vet to run under Greencross other getting ripped off on franchise fees and sharing income with them. Vets are usually a local thing that sells service and gains reputation....having Greencross written on the front window will probably cause avoidance if they are ripping people off....what does a Vet chain have to offer anyone Lots .... on paper. Why does any franchising organisation exist? Not everyone is cut out to be a business man or woman, but they might want to, ostensibly, run their own business and be self-employed. Of course, it depends on the franchise operation, but they generally provide advertising, sometimes an existing clientele, business training, commercial support, backup, etc etc etc. Just because someone trains to be a vet, it doesn't necessarily follow that they are good with people, staff, animals even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santo66 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 They are obviously offering good money for existing practices, but I don't see as an operator or franchisee any benefits for a vet to run under Greencross other getting ripped off on franchise fees and sharing income with them. Vets are usually a local thing that sells service and gains reputation....having Greencross written on the front window will probably cause avoidance if they are ripping people off....what does a Vet chain have to offer anyone Lots .... on paper. Why does any franchising organisation exist? Not everyone is cut out to be a business man or woman, but they might want to, ostensibly, run their own business and be self-employed. Of course, it depends on the franchise operation, but they generally provide advertising, sometimes an existing clientele, business training, commercial support, backup, etc etc etc. Just because someone trains to be a vet, it doesn't necessarily follow that they are good with people, staff, animals even. What they don't factor into any franchises is the amount of extra clientele it takes to pay the franchise fees. There won't be too many vets in any one area and doesn't take too much for a private practice to be a bit cheaper, provide a better service for a franchised practice to loose business. I see that a private practice would be more profitable for the owner than a franchisee after the franchisor has taken their cut off the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertie Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Private practice wouldn't get to have as much buying power for bulk stuff. And generally wouldn't have the same amount of backup in an underbidding war, I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 And if you consider the advertising power of a franchise.................... I have been to three different green cross franchised vets. One was a total disaster zone and contained the three most useless vets I have ever met along with the rudest "receptionist" imaginable The other two had brilliant vets, the last one especially was a fantastic vet who did an amazing job with my bitch and didn't charge the earth either - for a 6pm-on-a-Sunday caesar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 What they don't factor into any franchises is the amount of extra clientele it takes to pay the franchise fees. There won't be too many vets in any one area and doesn't take too much for a private practice to be a bit cheaper, provide a better service for a franchised practice to loose business. I see that a private practice would be more profitable for the owner than a franchisee after the franchisor has taken their cut off the top? I don't disagree with this, Santo66. You asked what a Vet Chain offered anyone -- I was merely listing a few of the things that some people would find attractive. Personally, I wouldn't touch a francise with a 40ft pole, but there are those who would see it as an answer to having their own business and, of course, there would be those who are blown away by the sales spiel and don't have the desire or ability to look at the "small print" very very carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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