Importing Dogs Into Australia

[DesertDobes]

Are you talking about Bonitations? They are done while the dog is growing and then as an evaluation of breeding quality I think.

Another couple of things I have read about them is that they seem to have a noise shyness. Not all of them would but I have heard they can be quite sensitive to Thunderstorms.

The Beau was one of the founding dogs for the Dobie I believe, I could be wrong though but apparently Louis Dobermann used a black and tan french herding breed.

--Lhok

Where did you read about the noise shyness? That would be about the only bad thing I've heard about them in my limited googling so far.

Yep I read that about the Dobe, but the two breeders pages I visited sited the robust health of the Beauceron compared to the numerous health problems the Dobes can have as a reason. To me they look somewhere between a Rotty and a Dobe but the harlequin colour is pretty unusual. Must have been a few people trying to breed all harlequin litters because breeding of harlequin to harlequin is now banned in the UK.

[Lhok]

Harlequin to Harlequin matings cause health problems like deafness etc I think that is why they are banned. They also come in a brown/tan colour but it is discouraged and very rare.

I tried to get back to the page that had it on it but my link to it in my bookmarks won't work anymore. However several sites did say they can be excessively shy if not socialised enough (though that could be said for a number of breeds) and separation anxiety is high for them.

--Lhok

[Wazzat Xolo]

How do you get in contact with a good breeder overseas and know that they are a good breeder and have good dogs?

You watch them in breed forums online, and you get introductions and you visit them in person. Try "related" breeds here in Australia too for referrals, most Saluki people here can recommend someone they would try for a Sloughi for example.

what is involved before the Australian quarantine requirements like rabies vaccine and quarantine?

The dog has to do 150 days after the rabies vacc and titre test before it can depart from most countries. This means either finding a breeder prepared to run the dog on, or finding a friend in the country prepared to have the dog for 4-5months, and either way - probably boarding fees of some kind. You really need a good agent, as it's hellishly complicated and includes locating government vets to stamp paperwork and different vaccs at different times.

What extra costs are involved and are purebred dogs a similar price internationally as they are here in Aust?

The prices are similar in as much as they vary a lot. For many the price is the relationship, not the cash. Best case scenario you are probably not getting much change out of 10K all up for the dog and getting it here.

If you import a dog that is not currently in Australia, how does the breed get registered with the ANKC?

Can help with that but I would try talking to the Azawakh people in Melbourne as they recently did it.

Is visiting the breeder overseas a norm?

IMO you would be nuts not to unless you have some other way of confirming that you are getting exactly what you think you are. Testicles, teeth and temperament really need to be checked in person, if not by you, then by someone you trust.

Edited because I can't count :laugh:

Totally agree with the no change out of 10K !! You also have to be prepared for the possibility of spending that small fortune on a dog that you may not even be able to breed on from for one reason or another. I'm a member of the 'expensive pets' club.

To have the breed recognised here you will have to actually import one of the breed & obtain an FCI export pedigree for the dog. The ANKC won't even consider your application without AQIS proof that the dog has arrived in the Country.

Cheers.

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The ANKC will help before the breed of dog actually gets here, if you need any help advice, I am happy to email the info as I have, having done this a few years ago with a new breed. It IS NOT difficult, as many will tell you and quite a learning curve. I didn't visit my breeder but built up a strong rapport with her, I will suggest if importing a male to have the semen evaluated beforehand ( a mistake I made) All the very best of luck, and believe me nothing is impossible ( even if you need to fight to change some ANKC rules, it CAN be done )

J

[teekay]

I watched The film Marmaduke the other day. Wasn't that a beauceron in that? I had to Google to see what it was, lol. It did have cropped ears which is a shame. I think it's a much better looking dog with natural ears.

Not as nice as the Auusie Shepherd though

[Dogsfevr]

I watched The film Marmaduke the other day. Wasn't that a beauceron in that? I had to Google to see what it was, lol. It did have cropped ears which is a shame. I think it's a much better looking dog with natural ears.

Not as nice as the Auusie Shepherd though

Its a Great Dane .The two breeds aren't similar at all

[Podengo]

Its a Great Dane .The two breeds aren't similar at all

There is a Beauceron in the Marmaduke film, his name is Bosco :)

[Podengo]

Also I think there might be a beauc in NZ.... Facebook

[OSoSwift]

Oh is that what he was :)

[espinay2]

I'll have to have a look at what the page is called and I'll send it too you. If you want a good place to start http://www.overhill.co.uk/ Overhill might be a good place. They have some pretty nice Akitas too. It's the place I first learned about the Beaus. Also if you do import one I would love to come and have a look maybe even a cuddle. :D

They have exported dogs to Australia and know what is involved, so would be a good place to start.

[Thunder]

just thought i'd mention that there is one currently on Gumtree for sale - not something I ever thought i'd see for sale there. Looks like it moved over with the owner as a pet from France according to the ad.

[OSoSwift]

Oh goodness still entire as well!

[espinay2]

Desert Dobes this dog may be a good start and intro to the breed. Find out if you really love and can live with the breed before the expense of importing.

[DesertDobes]

Missed all the stuff about the beauce in Australia Terrible to go to all that effort of importing and then not be able to keep the dog.

Hope he went to a happy home anyway. I am still in the planning stages (and saving money stages) but I have family approval so that is a good start at least... I am hoping to get the ball rolling with this and hopefully get a dog in the next 2 years. I don't think I will actually be able to visit a breeder in person so just have to do a lot of research.

I have collected various versions of the breed standard and will be contacting the ANKC soon to see what else needs to be done, I realised I really do want a mains registered beauceron so will work on ANKC approval before anything else. As the US has a few Beauce breeders I am going to use them as a first contact in addition to Overhill and maybe get some help with contacting French and Belgian breeders.