raineth Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 all this talk is reminding me of another crazy comment I got at dog club. I was there with my Dane and a lady said to me "your kids must love her" and I agreed. Then she said "they must have so much fun riding her and climbing all over her!" I was a bit shocked and said they (my kids) would never dream of doing any such thing to her! and she replied: "what's the point of her then?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazyWal Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I did the greenhound collar assessment with my Amethyst and found it quite easy, although I have had Amethyst from 12 weeks so a lot of the self-assessment stuff in the workbook was already done for her as it is more aimed at retired racers coming from a kennel situation. Denise from GAP did the assessment and she was marvellous, all it cost me was a $50 donation to GAP. I would recommend anyone with a socialised rescue grey in NSW consider doing the assessment. OT but I would really like some time of formalised program like this for all dogs regardless of breed or background... maybe dogs that have been assessed and passed may be allowed in more public spaces or get a discount on their council registration? I actually like this idea. Many dogs we meet when out and about should certainly not be unmuzzled until their owners can exercise better (or any) control over them. I like the idea as well. My two have not been assessed and to be honest I doubt Maddie would pass, Stan would easily, nothing much worries my Stanley. Trudy as others have said it is a law that has been around for a long time but as more greyhounds are becoming pets most states in Australia now have the Greenhound Programme. The link below tells you a bit about it. http://www.greenhounds.com.au/what-is-a-greenhound.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 "The test is desinged to identify that your dog is; Friendly, approachable and manageable. Shows no aggression towards other dogs (particulary small ones). Shows no aggression towards humans (particulary in the presence of food and toys etc.)" Sounds pretty fab to me. Would also save a lot of 'is it friendly or not' worries when out and about, I know it isn't a guarantee and things do change, but there's some peace of mind in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkabull Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 It wasn't said to me but I overheard a woman comment as I was walking my 2 Bulldogs past her house (end of my street) "ohh, they're female, we should mate *insert name of generic brindle bull breed cross she was holding on to* with them". I managed to stop myself from saying "over my dead body". Not to mention one of the dogs I was walking is a 5 month old, male pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJaq Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Sadly I predict that enforcement of such a thing around here would be about the same as it is for leash laws right now - zilch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 It wasn't said to me but I overheard a woman comment as I was walking my 2 Bulldogs past her house (end of my street) "ohh, they're female, we should mate *insert name of generic brindle bull breed cross she was holding on to* with them". I managed to stop myself from saying "over my dead body". Not to mention one of the dogs I was walking is a 5 month old, male pup. How about noooooooooo...haha. I'm impressed you restrained. I have so little time for those requests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I've never seen a report of a greyhound in a dog attack. I've never been rushed by one while walking my dog, I have a whole list of rushers who should be wearing muzzles and their owners handcuffs but greyhounds aren't on the list. A friend of mine owns two greyhounds and they are the most laid back friendly dogs. others have answered about the muzzle but I'll answer the bolded bit. Greyhounds have indeed attacked and killed other dogs. They are, after all, a dog and no dog is perfect nor is any breed above biting another dog. Not all dogs are good with other dog's regardless of their breed. Greyhounds are sighthounds, they are hunters, they are very attracted to movement and I never forget that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbie_tabbie Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I've had parents see me and my small dog and send their kids off 'for a cuddle'. I usually block the child and tell them they should ask to say hello, he doesn't want a cuddle (or his long hair pulled thanks..) but he can show them some tricks. Gives me a chance to reward him around the excitable child and usually stops then screeching. The parents don't always understand though - no he won't bite, he'll tolerate it but why should he have to? Seems if your dog looks like a teddy bear then it's open season for him to be mauled by toddlers.... Funnily enough, my JRT adores children and will wiggle, put ears back submissively and try to get a belly rub/pat but quite often the children are instantly called back or even told 'don't touch that one - they're snappy' ?! Lol - if only they realised ANY dog can 'be snappy'...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) There is a beautiful Greyhound at our local beach. He isn't muzzled but has had that Greenhound collar tested. He is an awesome dog. Big blue boy. He always plays with Sonny & Stel & they chase him around. God they can cover some ground :) Always loved them. Classic yesterday while I was out & about with my 2 guys this middle aged couple whom I have never seen before approach me with their new rescue 18 month old BC, Jack. Anyway they ask me if it would be ok if they let Jack off leash.Slightly confused as to why they were asking me I said it is your dog do what you like with it. Then they say, oh so your 2 dogs can teach him how to behave I replied that I didn't think that was such a good idea, don't be offended but.... & went to proceeded on my merry way.They where really put out by my reply. They said bloody hell how are we suppose to socialise him if you won't let your dogs near him I'm thinking you have got to be kidding me right. I couldn't believe it !!! I turned & said he is socialising. Just cause he is on lead doesn't mean he isn't & it certainly isn't me nor my dogs responsibility to "train" him. That is totally up to you. The whole ordeal just floored me. They thought that just because I have the same breed as them that mine could teach poor Jack how to behave. Talk about clueless people.... I just walked away shaking my head in sheer disbelief. Edited September 6, 2013 by BC Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I had a lovely little blue and white rescue Amstaff foster puppy a while back... and a passing stranger offered "to take him off my hands"... When I replied that he wasn't on offer, and that I was just waiting for his testicles to drop to get him desexed and ready for rehoming, the same person said "oh, I'll take him now then - save you the cost of desexing - I know someone with a bitch we can make great pups with - and with his blue colours we'll make heaps of money"... I just shook my head and walked away... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 tdierikx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Obviously dogs are trained by osmosis, BC. Duh! I wish it worked like that! "Oh my dog doesn't have much of a stay, can I touch him to yours like a handheld game console so he picks it up?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) :laugh: Yeah Steph M. They just blew me away honestly.... Steph, I'm wasting my time training Stella really then aren't I? I'll just go & get me a glass of bubbles, sit down & ask Sonny to do it. Simple :laugh: Really my only thoughts at the time was, poor Jack. Where is he going to end up with owners like that. Yes probably back where he came from sadly Edited September 6, 2013 by BC Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashlee08 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Out with my young Belgian Shepherd pup, someone approaches and says "Oh I LOVE German Shepherd puppies" (that part is fine, people get them mixed up) To which I replied no, he is a Belgian Shepherd, they look quite different as adults" His reply was "oh yes but they used to be called German Shepherds, so I am gonna call him that" GAAAAAAH! Out with my older Belgian Indie, she is a pretty dog I must admit, all the time I get, OMG she is beautiful when is she having a litter, when I reply that she is desexed it's like they can't even fathom the thought! Another couple recently, Jäger (11 weeks old) had peed in his crate at work, which was my fault because he had just woken up and a customer was taking aaaaaages to collect their animal. One of my co workers said to him, "bad dog, bad dog for peeing in your crate" This one was yesterday, I was with my personal trainer (he knows I am a doggy person) and he asked if i wanted a purebred with papers english bulldog pup, his neighbour had got one but realised it was too much work so was giving it away. I said I would think about it and that I would make sure she was desexed before finding her a home. He was like, "but she is purebred, why would you fix her, PUREBRED MAN!" Frustrating because it makes you realise what sort of unintentional ignorance that is ingrained into society that we are up against to be able to make steps forward and get people to fix their dogs. Sad thing is I think I lost any chance of helping when I mentioned I would sterilise her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah82 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 It's funny all the stories about parent's letting their kids run up to and play with strange dogs. The Kids & Dogs thread is all starting to make sense. One plus One equals........ um Two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alison03 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I did the greenhound collar assessment with my Amethyst and found it quite easy, although I have had Amethyst from 12 weeks so a lot of the self-assessment stuff in the workbook was already done for her as it is more aimed at retired racers coming from a kennel situation. Denise from GAP did the assessment and she was marvellous, all it cost me was a $50 donation to GAP. I would recommend anyone with a socialised rescue grey in NSW consider doing the assessment. OT but I would really like some time of formalised program like this for all dogs regardless of breed or background... maybe dogs that have been assessed and passed may be allowed in more public spaces or get a discount on their council registration? I actually like this idea. Many dogs we meet when out and about should certainly not be unmuzzled until their owners can exercise better (or any) control over them. I think a program like this would be great, but many would not even try it, there are a lot of dog owners out there who are actually afraid of their own dogs and go out of their way not to "push their buttons" I think was the way one person described her behaviour. I can't imagine living like that but it happens more than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alison03 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I did the greenhound collar assessment with my Amethyst and found it quite easy, although I have had Amethyst from 12 weeks so a lot of the self-assessment stuff in the workbook was already done for her as it is more aimed at retired racers coming from a kennel situation. Denise from GAP did the assessment and she was marvellous, all it cost me was a $50 donation to GAP. I would recommend anyone with a socialised rescue grey in NSW consider doing the assessment. OT but I would really like some time of formalised program like this for all dogs regardless of breed or background... maybe dogs that have been assessed and passed may be allowed in more public spaces or get a discount on their council registration? I actually like this idea. Many dogs we meet when out and about should certainly not be unmuzzled until their owners can exercise better (or any) control over them. I like the idea as well. My two have not been assessed and to be honest I doubt Maddie would pass, Stan would easily, nothing much worries my Stanley. Trudy as others have said it is a law that has been around for a long time but as more greyhounds are becoming pets most states in Australia now have the Greenhound Programme. The link below tells you a bit about it. http://www.greenhounds.com.au/what-is-a-greenhound.html Thanks SM, wouldn't it be good if all dogs had to pass the green collar assessment. It won't happen in our lifetime unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alison03 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I've never seen a report of a greyhound in a dog attack. I've never been rushed by one while walking my dog, I have a whole list of rushers who should be wearing muzzles and their owners handcuffs but greyhounds aren't on the list. A friend of mine owns two greyhounds and they are the most laid back friendly dogs. others have answered about the muzzle but I'll answer the bolded bit. Greyhounds have indeed attacked and killed other dogs. They are, after all, a dog and no dog is perfect nor is any breed above biting another dog. Not all dogs are good with other dog's regardless of their breed. Greyhounds are sighthounds, they are hunters, they are very attracted to movement and I never forget that. I am aware all dogs are different depending on their training, and not their breed. I was remarking on the fact greyhounds have to wear muzzles whether they have misbehaved or not, imagine if all dogs had to wear muzzles until they were assessed as safe, an absolute reverse of the situation we have now. Although if the dog laws get tightened we could be seeing more muzzled dogs in the future with the "menacing" part of the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alison03 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I leave if I see people approaching with their children because most people around here have no dog sense at all. Back when Foxy was a puppy, around 8 months old, I tied her in the shade outside Maccas while I ran in to get a cup of water for her. I purposely tied her away from the entrance in the corner of the parking lot that was closest to window where I could see her and I never dreamt that people would approach her or even notice her. Well, I was nearly at the door when to my horror I saw some parents with a group of kids, who appeared to be walking toward her with one noisy boy around 5 running ahead at full speed with his arm raised at the dog. I just about shit a brick right then and dropped the cup and bolted for Foxy to shield her with my body or something, but the kid was quicker and of course his parents were totally oblivious to the fact that Foxy had flattened herself to the ground at the end of her leash as far away as she could get and was growling ferociously. Anyway, long story short, I didn't make it in time but Foxy jumped up with her hackles up, thinking the kid was going to hit her and roared and air snapped a few cm away from the kid's arm, which then sent the kid running back to his parents. I am pretty certain she could have got him if she wanted to, so I was pretty glad she left it at a warning and nobody got hurt. Lesson learnt, I only ever leave her inside the car now and only when it is not hot obviously. Surprisingly, the parents actually realized what a shithouse idea it was to mob a strange (and not exactly tiny) puppy with their kids where it could not get away and they apologized I was gobsmacked and obviously I got the hell out of there like my pants were on fire Holy cow that was a lucky escape, if the child had been bitten it could have ended differently. I tied Bonny up outside the local general store once, while I nipped in for something, the till is right by the door, while standing in line I realized I couldn't see her anymore, ran out to investigate, she was under the pavement display rack, pressed up against the wall with three little kids trying to get to her and the mother saying "Perhaps she's shy, pull on her lead". Some people are as dumb as a bucket of rocks. She wouldn't have bitten anyone (I don't think) but she was terrified. I always park the car in front of the shop with her harnassed in the back seat and leave the windows down a bit these days, no one can get to her that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alison03 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Obviously dogs are trained by osmosis, BC. Duh! I wish it worked like that! "Oh my dog doesn't have much of a stay, can I touch him to yours like a handheld game console so he picks it up?" If only it was that easy. ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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